The day the music faked his death

Richie Valens supposedly died in the crash the day the music died, February 3, 1959, along with Buddy Holly and the Big Bopper. We’ve been looking for him. I thought he might have become Juan Gonzalez, Amy Goodman/Janis Joplin’s co-host on Democracy Now! Not him. I even tried Cesar Chavez, the California labor organizer, as no one would be allowed such a high profile unless he was controlled opposition. That’s not how it works in a totally controlled media environment like ours. Non-spooks need not apply.

I am afraid that by the time I get back stateside, Straight will have located all the Zombies and twins. There’ll be nothing left to do! He found Valens, who became ABC news correspondent John Quiñones. It is unmistakable.

I don’t have time to do anything other than lay out the work before you, but you will quickly see that these are the same man. If by chance you think that it is merely coincidence that people match up this closely, you’re wrong. Faces are, again, like snowflakes. No two alike. This man, Quiñones, is Richie Valens. If our evidence flies in the face of your beliefs, check your beliefs.

The search for Buddy Holly continues! (The so-called “Big Bopper” was merely the military connection to that staged event, and probably was reassigned after fake death.)

(We are in Amsterdam, and off to see the Rambo Museum today. Can’t wait!)

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26 Responses to The day the music faked his death

  1. sherayx says:

    He is not the only one…thanks for posting!

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  2. sylvestardakat says:

    I was VERY impressed with Straight’s study of possible numerology markers in wiki, which he sadly abandoned. But this stuff… not so much. Even if you out all Hollywood twins and entertainment personas recycled as infotainment people, what is the point, really? I totally get that these things certainly happen, but once you’ve proven a few strong cases, what is the point of going further on this subject? Apart from the risk of being associated with Ed Chariani et al. disinfo clowns, I couldn’t care less that Benny Hill might be related to Axl Rose or that Amy Winehouse was rebranded as Abby Martin. IMHO, past a certain point, all of this only becomes a conspiracy theorist’s version of hollywood gossip magazines.

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    • Hey sylvestardakat,
      I appreciate you liking the Wiki stuff. I can’t speak for Mark’s motives, but I’ll say why I have decided to go this route.

      The simplest reason is that what we are doing is easier to prove. Wiki numerology is great if you have faith in it and it will lead you down some roads you never would have suspected. I think it is good for an individual person’s journey to the truth. But when it comes to convincing the masses that will awaken over the next 20-25 years, we need some evidence to get our foot in the door.

      Yes, we know Hollywood and celebrities are fake. Any discoveries we make from now on will probably only moderately surprise us, rather than shock us. But what we are doing is building a database (and soon a website) that will be well organized and as complete as possible.

      When I do this, I do not think for today or next week. I think for the next decade. It’s clear the world isn’t read for this yet, not even the fakery community. But they will be. And when they are, there will be a complete and full database exposing all of these people. It will be a solid foundation already uncovered, And worst of all for the Chiarini losers, is that there will be full explanations and tutorials for how to do it yourself, so that they’re pathetic tricks no longer work.

      I am not afraid of their disinfo tricks. More and more people awaken to them everyday, and I have faith they will have the ability to pick the truth from the garbage.

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      • sylvestardakat says:

        Thanks for the straight answer (pun).

        I like the fact that you have future generations in mind, but I can’t help to think that your amazing sleuthing skills (I’m talking MM and BlueMoon genius level here) are getting a bit wasted on these matters, as opposed to the wiki stuff (or researching NFL games being rigged and getting an ominous answer from a Quora insider–that was pure awesomeness). Still, it’s great to know there are people like you.

        Regards,

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    • Mathis right now is involved in running down genealogy, and I find it very hard to maintain my interest. And yet I realize that he is an artist, and this is now his canvas, and he is painstakingly creating a larger work from smaller elements, each one a brush stroke. He may have an idea of what the final work is, but I do not.

      So too are we involved in something large that even we do not understand yet. … I cannot say where this leads. I only know that every celebrity outed is another brush stroke, and every set of twins is leading to something very big that neither of us (or others involved peripherally) can quite yet grasp.

      So be patient. And thanks for being critical without being dismissive.

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      • It’s also the SCALE of the fakery. Most in the conspiracy community are OK with fake deaths, fake relationships, fake events, etc. But to say that Drake and Rihanna are both identical twins playing the role, that’s taking it to another level. Now consider their “love” at the VMAs the other night and their pictures together in tabloids this week. Knowing they are twins tell us the scale of the fake relationship is more than suspected.

        Now to know that someone like Ritchie Valens who was made a legend and immortalized in La Bamba is actually still alive and still on TV with another name. I mean, whoa. That’s the kind of thing that rocks your world when you really figure it out. What we are is one step closer to the truth, and following this trail will lead us to the next step, whatever that is.

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      • sylvestardakat says:

        Very elegantly said.

        I appreciate your honesty regarding the end game of your research. As you might have guessed, I’m not really the patient type, but I’ll stay tuned. I also agree that Mathis’ latest papers are much less groundbreaking than what we’ve been accustomed to, and his toning down seems to happen at a time when he’s being accused of disinfo by some people from inside the “community”. Since you’re one of the few who’ve met him (the only researcher I know of actually, even though IIRC Simon Shack said something about sending an emissary to make sure the guy was real), I was wondering if you could expand a bit on your experience–or maybe I guess there was some sort of gentlemen’s non-disclosure agreement? I see him as a true renaissance man, and even if he is a limited hangout, just like Loose Change it is still a great starting point for beginners.

        Regards,

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      • sylvestardakat says:

        I was replying to Mark, but thanks Straight for the addendum.

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      • Understand that if I had something negative to say about him, I would not do so out of respect. No one likes being back bitten.

        That said, I found him congenial, cordial, warm, funny. He is a renaissance man, I suppose, and I doubt that I will attend another conference, as the physics is beyond both my interest and grasp, but for the sake of meeting him and the other men there, it was worth it. I don’t see anything in his writing that contradicts anything in his person. He is not, as I see him, a spook. He is not antisocial, not anti-technology. He rides a small motorbike of a sort around the back streets of Taos, but he is sane and sensible and easy to deal with in person.

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        • John in Texas says:

          A bit off topic but just posted on Fakeologist is the new Tom Hanks film, “Sully”. Of course, nobody landed a damn jet airliner on the Hudson River but a year or two back I was reading about it, may have been on September Clues and somebody remarked that Capt Sully had been recognized from the porn film industry back in the 80’s. Finding him though would be like looking for a needle in a haystack not to mention viewing porn is neither helpful nor healthy but nonetheless, Capt Sully is just another actor.

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  3. lah says:

    Though the resemblance is striking, I am again left with trying to reconcile the difference in ages. Valens was born 1941 and Quinones, May 23, 1952. His name appears in the Texas Birth Index with that date.. Quinones does not look like a 75 year old man to me.. He looks more like someone in his mid 60’s. I suppose plastic surgery is an option…but, hmmmmm….

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    • Very good points. In the past, I usually assume they meet in the middle. Dead person is younger, reassignment is older.

      In this case it’s different since Valens was so young. They say he was 17. I don’t think he could have been much younger, if anything he looks older like 19-20. Quinones look late 60’s, and could pass for early 70’s in the untouched photos.

      Keep in mind that we don’t know which pictures and videos were released before Ritchie’s death. They could have easily taken the pictures and recorded some videos in the years after his death in 1959. That could explain why Valens looks older than 17. I had always assumed Valens was manufactured and was not much of a star at the time.

      My hunch is that Valens was a mature-looking 15-16 when he “died” and after his death they took pictures and videos to create his “legacy”, and Quinones is really 72-73 years old and made to look younger with plastic surgery.

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  4. Tyrone McCloskey says:

    Taking one step to the side, Buddy Holly often appears to be sporting false teeth- They’re too perfect at times- There is one pic I found where he’s not wearing his glasses and is smiling- The teeth are a shambles- His appearance has always looked to me to be a crude disguise- As if he was scheduled to appear as this character only for a short time and then have free range with a completely different look- Can’t say right now if he was twins- Hedging against it for the moment- https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/39/af/29/39af29e1cf958cb8038db6bfff0351a8.jpg

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    • Oh man, good find. Here’s another one of Holly with the bad teeth:

      I’ve suspected Holly of being twins but we haven’t confirmed yet.

      I always thought “Day the Music Died” was an exaggeration for a young rock star, a relative unknown, and a journeyman to die in a small plane crash. It seems to have been a psy-op of some sort to kill hope or something. Any ideas what the point of it would be?

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      • Tyrone McCloskey says:

        My recollection is that The Day the Music Died meme followed on Don McLean’s 1971 hit American Pie- Prior to that it wasn’t spoken of that way- And speaking of all the bad piloting in R n R history, wither Ricky Nelson? 45 is old for “retirement” in this way- He’d be 76, so he could have been around- If not repurposed, his “death” was timely in that his old catalogue spiked, which is one of the objectives behind the dead rock star process- His new material never caught on and he probably agreed to throw in the towel- His GF went with him into the Celeb Protection Program- That’s always a big red one in these things- Taking the wife/GF with you-

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      • John in Texas says:

        I always thought the same thing but then came across some speculation that the song was about the stabbing death by Hell’s Angels at the Altamont Raceway Rolling Stones show. Which was probably a stunt as well.

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        • Tyrone McCloskey says:

          J in T-
          Meredith Hunter, the “vicsim” of a Hell’s Angel’s fury was as real as the Rolling Stone’s talent, which is to say, non-existent- The whole sequence of the assault is ridiculous-“Meredith” looks to be wielding Dirty Harry’s .44 magnum cannon, something all 18 year old black art students carried back then- The idiot with the knife misses his first blow and grabs his target around the neck and they stumble out of the convenient klieg light thrown on the melee for the staging- The follow up hysterics of the white girlfriend (they use the whole psy-op to the fullest extent) is some of the worst crisis acting on record- And the editing of that part very cleverly disguises the fact that there is no body on that stretcher or in that “whirlybird”- All you see is that lime green pimpin’ suit Hunter wore to this grimy affair, a dust ridden outback where 99% of the audience is denim and tie-died white hippies- But, he certainly was easy to spot- The film even sees him prominently displayed while the sun is still up, groovin’ in that clown suit- Foreshadowing, they call that- It’s a scriptwriter’s trick- Gimme Shelter is not a documentary-

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          • John in Texas says:

            Thanks for clarifying that. I had never seen the footage, only read about the incident.

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          • McGowan treats the whole Meredith Hunter matter as true on its face, another reason to suspect that he is a spook, meaning he too most likely faked his death.

            Reminds me, another potential fake death I need to look into, happening right around McGowan’s time, and an author whose works, in retrospect, appear to be just another attack on Christianity (not that I am a fan, mind you, being deep,y brainwashed as a youth). Her names was Dorothy Murdock, and she went by that or “DM” Murcock and also the name Achayra S, or teacher. Though she died, if she died at all, in January of 2016 they moved her official date of death to 12/25/15. That is the thing that made me curious – otherwise I thought she was just another cancer victim.

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      • The teeth in this one and the one above look identical. He could be starring now in vampires flicks.

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