About those trusted sources …

I had an interesting exchange with Straight last night. He was wondering why, given the evidence we present, that people do not believe the results. I said that it was due to lack of critical thinking skills, not taught anymore.

He thought otherwise – that people have the necessary skills, but are afraid to use them because in school they are taught to defer to authority figures, not trusting their own perceptions.

I instantly realized he was right, as I thought of Don Pogreba, a high school teacher, and his co-writer at their blog,  Bunt for the Fence, Pete Talbot. They both preach use of “trusted sources,” in other words, deference to authority figures rather than use of one’s own brain.

And if Pogreba practices this as an adult, he is surely teaching his students that this is the proper way to go through life.

About Mark Tokarski

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7 Responses to About those trusted sources …

  1. steve kelly says:

    There are those who do not believe the authorities or the official version of events who have a hard time believing anything anymore. Once fear takes over, one is in no mood to calmly process evidence — it’s fight or flight 24/7. There’s simply no energy to process the new “what.” No new anything. Anxiety literally takes over. And that’s where the trail ends for many exhausted by the constant bombardment of official lies.

    Another thing: “Conspiracy theory.” Billions have been spent in my lifetime, beginning with the post-Warren Commission assault on disbelievers, conditioning that single phrase as a universal response to anything and everything more complicated than ordering off menu at the Wendy’s drive-up window. Wildly successful op. Having skills is one thing. Being good at using what God gave you takes practice, which takes time, of which most people have none — zero. They’re not lazy, just overbooked, multi-tasking, and making a mess of it. This (over-programmed) is standard fare for most kids today. It’s all they know. There is no play time, only a schedule. There is literally no time to think. Critical thinking is done outside “the system.”


    • Big Swede says:

      Ayn did some critical thinking back in ’57.

      “You may know society is doomed when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you; [and] when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice.”

      -Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged”, 1957


    • The best way to learn is by making mistakes. We all start out not very good at it, but get better with time if we don’t worry about being wrong. The greatest failing of education today is the testing regime, where kids have to be right to get a good grade. That pretty much eliminates critical thinking, smothered in the crib.

      [By the way, if you are saying that we need to believe some events as reported to maintain a balanced outlook, I disagree. We need to deal with each event as neither true nor false until shown by evidence to be true or fake. If they all end up being fake, are we then unbalanced for not falling for at least some of them?]


    • It’s too bad, because I believe discovering all this stuff is fake is the first step to removing unnecessary fear from your life.

      And yes, I would love to talk about the “conspiracy theorist” project. I think back to when I believed in mainstream things and I didn’t know anything about conspiracy theorist. When I thought of it, I would think of Mel Gibson acting crazy in that movie, UFOs, JFK, and the kids in Signs wearing tin foil hats.

      I bought into the “paranoid” concept. When I heard someone bring up a conspiracy, I had a deep belief in the good of humanity and did not believe that something that bad could happen nowadays since “somebody would say something or do something about it”. I did assume that the other person was paranoid. When a friend brought up Sandy Hook being faked by Obama for the gun control debate, I didn’t believe it because I didn’t think the risk would be worth it.

      The same reason I didn’t buy the 9/11 truth movement. “What if they would get caught? Not worth it”. I lacked an understanding of how the world really worked. Plus Obama and Bush were misdirection anyway. And purposeful misdirection since it would be more likely to be discredited by mainstream thinkers. They plan this stuff well.


  2. Tyrone McCloskey says:

    This is a blog that does not have a great deal of overlap with POM but this particular post is interesting- I think this blogger is a committee but there is some entertaining, if well behind the curve, writing here- http://xdell.blogspot.com/


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