Dreamworks, SKG and, oh yeah, add H and H (for the Buddy Holly twins) to that name

Note to Reader: This blog post has been put “under review” as we have had growing pains in developing the technology we use to identify twins, replicas and zombies. The eyes behind the technology are getting better, so as you read this piece note that if you are troubled by its conclusions that we will be looking at it in more depth and with better eyes. For the time being, it is speculation.


Note to readers: See this post, Weird Scenes at Clear Lake, which was triggered by this discussion at Clues Forum. We know now that when celebrities fake their death at a young age, that it is done for re-assignment purposes. Where once I assumed that Buddy Holly had merely left the music business and was living anonymously somewhere, I came to realize that he was a public figure … finding him being the only problem.


katzenberg-parsonsThe search for Buddy Holly has been long, with many diversions and dead ends. The breakthrough came last week. I thought that I had found another Zombie in an almost perfect match between Gram Parsons* and Jeffrey Katzenberg, the film producer. Don’t be fooled, as I was, by the match-up on the left. I jumped on board too soon, excited by the new discovery. The problem was in the chins – I had inadvertently cut Katzenberg’s off, and so did not see that it was quite a bit longer than Parsons’. This was another no-go. Straight pointed this out, and in the ensuing discussion, I mentioned that Katz and another Hollywood mogul, David Geffen, looked an awful lot alike. Check it out:

That’s Geffen top right, and Katz underneath. They are not the same man, of course, but imagine, yet another Hollywood mogul, this time in the music business, aligning like that with his long-time business partner in Dreamworks SKG. These guys appear to be twins. (Note that Geffen’s ears are higher – this will come in to play down below.)

That led us back to Buddy Holly. We have known for a while now that Holly was twins. What if the Holly twins became David Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg? Would that not be cool? We worked on it over the weekend.

It has been a tough project, however. Photos of Holly are old and few in number. In most he is wearing horn-rimmed glasses with coke-bottle lenses. That gives the illusion that his eyes are spaced a little wider than they really are. I cannot “fix” that by adjusting the size of the skull, otherwise I am doing mere confirmation bias. So I have tried to work with photos of Holly without glasses, few in number.

Nevertheless, we were able to distinguish two separate men in the Holly photos. Here’s a sampling of Buddy Holly Twin #1:

Both Holly brothers wore a dental veneer in public, which is why they so often smiled with mouth closed – bad teeth (Twin #2 more so than #1). And, as we usually find with twins, one is more outgoing, more expressive. Here is Twin #2:

The photo on the far right are his real teeth, something that was later worked over to produce a handsome smile. (I try to avoid criticizing people for appearances or for making cosmetic improvements. We are all imperfect.)

Please bear with me for two face splits to establish that these two different men:

Again, be aware of the distortion caused by the glasses, offsetting on the left but there on the right. The primary key to telling them apart is ears. In each photo here the angle that we are viewing is straight-on, so that there is no parallax distortion. Twin #1 has much higher ears, as does Geffen. But like Geffen and Katzenberg, their features align closely.

The best result came from Geffen/Twin #1, seen as follows:

That is as good as they come, perfect alignment of skull, nose, eyes, ears, chin. Others work as well, but in these two photos, they are looking in the same direction with the same half-smile. At this point, I knew we had our man. David Geffen was once known as Buddy Holly.

Katzenberg and Twin #2 was a little more iffy, and I will easily accept criticisms if we are not in agreement. I am satisfied on this, however, because of too much coincidence – Geffen and Katz aligning so well as to be convinced they are twins, and the perfect alignment of Geffen and Twin #1. It would naturally follow that the brothers are still together.

Notice that the best alignment comes with the two on the right. That’s because Holly is not wearing glasses, so we don’t get that slight distortion of Holly’s face. Instead, it is Katzenberg who is wearing glasses. While modern lenses are much thinner and don’t cause the “coke bottle” effect that I suffered in my school years, there is a very slight apparent shrinking of Katz’s skull caused by the spectacles.

There you have it. I hope I have made a convincing case. Straight held my feet to the fire on this one, being skeptic of the Twin 2/Katz alignment. I told him I would write it up with due caution and note his reluctance to be fully on board.

There’s another character involved in all of this, the “S” in Dreamworks SKG, Steven Spielberg. I am reminded of the old nursery rhyme, substituting the word “trust” for “like”:

I do not trust thee, Doctor Fell,
The reason why – I cannot tell;
But this I know, and know full well,
I do not trust thee, Doctor Fell.

Spielberg, like so many others, arrived on the scene a fully credentialed genius. Is he, like his business partners Geffen and Katzenberg, and other moguls like Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Richard Branson – a phony, a front man for a much larger Intelligence operation?

Most likely so. That is my bet. Most likely so. These people are phonies, all of them. _____________

*The search for Gram Parsons is ongoing. Suggestions are welcome. He is out there somewhere. Note that he supposedly died of a drug overdose in 1973 at Joshua Tree Monument, but that his body was stolen by two friends from the LA International Airport, and burned in the desert. This all legal we are told, so no one was prosecuted but the two friends were fined for littering the desert. Yeah, that happens everyday. If you don’t know how to read that correctly, try this: Parsons supposedly died, but we have no body, no proof of death. Just trust us. He’s dead. (I am still intrigued by the close alignment of features between Parsons and Katzenberg, but do not know how to interpret it beyond mere coincidence.)

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13 Responses to Dreamworks, SKG and, oh yeah, add H and H (for the Buddy Holly twins) to that name

  1. John in Texas says:

    I wonder if there are any clues in the U2 album, The Joshua Tree? U2 and Bono are definitely gatekeeper’s. Generally talentless, they are superstars. I think there is even an old thread on September Clues about Bono.


    • I would not be surprised. I have always wondered why an Irish band chose Joshua as its album cover. But I don’t want to get into U2 and lyrics and symbology and all of that, as my plate is full. Would you want to give it a try, John?


      • John in Texas says:

        Yes, I will give the LP a listen and snoop around a bit. I always wondered why an Irish band was singing about Desmond Tutu and South Africa.


        • tyrone mccloskey says:

          Just off the top of my ass, U2 and Bono Vox are damage control for the crown- Hewson is an “honorary” knight which should appall Irish everywhere- He also kisses the ass of the anti-christ in Rome- The Irish aren’t the Irish anymore- Bars are closing because beer for breakfast is now frowned upon- The churches have emptied because the girls were not protected from having rape babies- The Polish immigrants are the only ones keeping the candles lit- The wholesale acceptance of the Apple/Microsoft Borg is what’s kept any rebellion in check while Ireland is being repurposed as a large open air mall- The EU vote farce has also knocked politics off the list- It used to be Drink/Politics/Song- Everything else came after- Not anymore- That old, conservative culture of victimization is gone- But where to go from here is not at all clear- U2 is not Irish song-

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  2. straightshooter says:

    You guys still alive? Must be doing some great work then. lol


  3. DeplorableOldeVirginian says:

    I am still intrigued by the close alignment of features between Parsons and Katzenberg…
    Why not TRIPLETS ? Buy 2 get one free! Merchandising gimmicks work in that trade too, no doubt…


  4. Tyrone says:

    Can we assume the name “Buddy Holly” was a nom de guerre? Part of the Holly-wood nudge nudge-


  5. nathan says:

    a suggestion, if i may: note the early photos of buddy holly. it looks to me that “he” very well could have been a woman. might be worth trying to match “him” up with somebody else with this in mind. the photos of him as a boy especially to me look very feminine. just a thought.


  6. Lucia says:

    Even if the plane crash was fake, these musicians would be long dead by now or really old. It’s 2016 and they were in their late teens and early 20s in the late 1950s? Either that or very old men by now. 80s or 90s at least.


    • Lucia says:

      Well 2017. 😛


    • Might well be the case, but timeline shows Holly born 1936 would have been 23 in ’59, while Geffen, born in 43, would have been 16. That is unlikely, but more likely that Geffen is older than claimed by a few years, and that Holly’s birthday might not be accurate, but only off by a year or two. was perhaps younger. We’ve seen that before. Anyway, Geffen and Katz, if born in 36, would be 80 now. I would put them in their 70s. He is officially 73. This is one of those projects that needs review, as the resemblance between the Holly twins and Geffen and Katz is remarkable, but only Geffen is a dead-on ringer, while Katzenberg is off by just a tiny bit. Kind of thing keeps me awake at night. .


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