This is just one more item to remove from the backlog, and should be very short, as I don’t feel like working today. (I have a whole bunch of Barbara Walters photos and people who are certain there were not two Walters, but three or more over the years. So I am going to do one more Walters post over the weekend to see where that leads. Where there’s smoke … )
This is Miles W. Mathis from his paper Proof That John Lennon Faked His Death, page 38:
“We have one more turn of the screw before we get back to Lennon. If you are already sitting down,you may want to lie down for this one. When Blackstone faked the death of Jackson, they didn’t really fake Jackson’s death. They faked the death of Jackson’s body double. The real Michael Jackson has been living in Abu Dhabi for many years. The guy in the news during the past decade is Jackson’s body double, who took over all public appearances after about 2001. The guy with the tiny sharp nose: that isn’t even Jackson. It is the body double who was scheduled to go on world tour and whose death was faked. It was the body double they had to whisk away in the fake ambulance and the body double they had to relocate. The real Michael Jackson had relocated long ago.”
I thought this ought to be easy enough, as the last Michael Jackson was a freak show with a button nose and square jaw that looked nothing like the original. Here are a couple of photos.
Can they look any different? The left is 1977, the right sometime in the late 2000s, shortly before his “death.” There were rumors all around that Jackson was going through whitening treatments or had a skin condition, but that had to be misdirection. Look at the noses! They can perform some feats of magic with plastic surgery, but I doubt they can turn a robust nose like that into a little button without altering the bone structure. For what reason? Jackson was a good looking man, while his replacement creeps me.
So I went back and grabbed a bunch of Jackson photos, paying attention to the noses.
You tell me … how many Jocko’s have there been? I see at least three noses.
Piece of Mindful 
Yeah, really wow. Even the middle picture (where you have 3 lined up) looks like a totally different person. Certainly not a mid-operation nose.
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This is synchronicity, Mark. I looked into Michael Jackson just yesterday. Will read your post now.
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Reminds me of the old joke about how Jackson is the perfect American success story… A poor black boy who became a rich white girl…
That skin whitening silliness shows how far they can take things and have us believe them. I guess in his case they had to find someone who could dance well enough and match the faces secondarily.
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It’s my opinion that this sort of thing goes on all the time, especially since the 1960s. Look at photos of David Bowie through the years. There were at least two Bowies, possibly three or more. Look at Eric Clapton, and Bob Dylan too … and many others.
It’s surprisingly easy to fool the public this way. You don’t even need a twin, really. Just show somebody else who looks somewhat similar and say it’s the same person and the public completely ignores the fact that the new one doesn’t look much like the old one. They just swallow it without a second thought.
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This is the first time I’ve ever seen Clapton mentioned. The end is nigh. Clapton is God…right?
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Eric “The Slowhand” is one of my guitar idols, as much as Jimmy Hendrix, Richie Blackmore or Jimmy Page. I hear you though, but still can see similarities between young & old Clapton. I may be completely wrong, obviously biased:
We once had a small discussion, I believe it was in the McCartney post here, saying that some of these musicians were actually extremely talented guys and gals. All of the above are irreplaceable in terms of playing style, on-stage performance and composition, as these all leave distinctive attributes for identification through decades. In my opinion, possibly only identical twins and triplets could step in for their brothers, on the condition they’re as much talented as their counterparts (as in the case of Presley or sir Faul). That’s why they’re “overdosed” them so many, removing them from the scene permanently – you can’t create a really talented switch for a really talented performer (and possibly even compositor), who at the same time looks exactly like his brother. Even twins can be easily distinguished between once you’ve looked at their faces for long enough, though. An assumption that everything is written and can be credited to some Intel committee, does not mean these guys aren’t an important team member of such committee. I’m absolutely sure that Leonard Cohen was a member of such creative committee, if they really exist. Or am I being just ultimately naive, thinking that anybody from the “rock-star” world actually gets credited for any creative work?
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Clapton was once my idol too. I’ve seen him up close. I stood beside him at the old Fillmore Auditorium in San Francisco in the 1960s (yes, I’m that old). And, that old “I Shot the Sheriff” Clapton isn’t him, IMO. 😉
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There was that odd “heroin” absence from 1970-1974. Duane Allman did most of the heavy lifting on “Layla” and the “Eric Clapton” from 1970 was very much a collaborative effort. So perhaps, after Cream, we’ve been taking it on Blind Faith that it’s the same, Clapton. In the 70’s he backed away from the guitar god label, started using a Stratocaster and leaning on J.J. Cale. Maybe all of the post Cream stuff is really Cale.
Then there’s the George Harrison/Patty Boyd triangle, and Clapton playing on the Beatles White Album. O.K., I’m starting to get a little freaked out.
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You’ve said that so well, kudos. J.J. Cale had a magic touch for the guitar, that’s for sure, playing it with his fingers instead of picks, like Knopfler did, and both of them could play it live even better then in studio recordings. Only masters of their instruments can do that on the stage, and in my opinion, Clapton is still in this club.
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Speaking of Clapton & Duane Allman:
Here is a popular photo of their “partnership” …
… and it’s as fake as can be. An obvious paste-up. You can plainly see the cuts around both of them.
Here is another …
http://www.analogrevolutionstudios.com/uploads/5/0/2/7/50272675/published/0d2a7d230fcb9c7489405f37838ecb8e_2.jpg?1488488629
… also fake. They had to chop off part of Eric’s shoulder to paste in Duane beside him.
Were Eric and Duane really working together?
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Thanks, Vexman. I was 15 years old when “Slowhand” was released and Cocaine (a J.J. Cale song) blew me away. From that point forward I bought anything by Clapton that I could get my hands on. Even the old, raw, Yardbirds stuff.
In my research, I have no problem destroying actors and actresses, but I tread lightly on musicians because I respect musical ability too much. MM once said something disparaging about Alison Krauss and I emailed him to say, “You’re probably correct, but in this case, I choose ignorance.” To his credit, he understood. I mean, that’s the voice of an angel fallen from heaven if I ever heard one.
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I know what you’re saying, Kevin. Fortunately I’ve never liked movies, and generally dislike actors and Hollywood, so have spared a lot there. But it is hard to let go of great musicians. Alison Krause is one, I’d put Linda Ronstadt up there as well.
One of the little things that draws me to Mathis is how spot on he’s been about singers that have been overhyped. Whatever really happened to her, Whitney Houston had all the soul and nuance of a modulated fog horn, and MM captured that perfectly. I’d never paid much attention to Tom Waits, so put off MM’s article until ACL ran a re-run of a Waits concert. I pulled up the article while I listened, and he nailed it.
Haven’t looked into whether his death was real or Memorex, but Jaco Pastorius was incredibly talented. If he got reassigned to CNN, somebody’s head should roll.
The depth of emotional range on his version of “Three Views of a Secret” still gives me chills.
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Wow IB, you dug deep into the MM archives (2009) for that Tom Waits article. We sometimes forget how long Miles has been doing this. So many quotable lines in that paper, but I love the opening.
In a recent critique of Elizabeth Gilbert, I called Tom Waits a phony, causing many readers to inhale their clove cigarettes, spin their derbies, stamp their engineer boots (bought new at Shepler’s Western Wear in 2008 but roughed up to look like they were stolen from a sharecropper in the 40’s), and write me off as a like totally unhip dude, man
He also references John Cage who we were just talking about over at Maarten’s article. These are the same people who were impressed by John Cage sitting on the piano—in the way that any teenager is thrilled by climbing on the school roof and throwing dirt clods Miles really is a treasure.
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Wow, I envy you, at least for having the opportunity to see Eric performing live. Although I know many things about all those people nowadays and how hippie movement was nothing organic or spontaneous, I still like and listen to that (kind of) music. This modern electronic crap doesn’t even get my attention, I find it neurotic, confused and mostly annoying. The sound of a good rocking and distorted but artistic guitar playing a thundering riff, still gets me electrified.
When you said that old Clapton isn’t really him – were you talking about Clapton from the above pictures? Both older guys not being Clapton, did I understand that right?
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Your two lower photos are not of the same person, in my opinion.
Eric of the Bluesbreakers era is not the same guy as the current “Clapton.”
As for your two upper photos, I can’t say. The beard in the younger photo makes it difficult. They often use facial hair to hide a switch (like they did with The Beatles) so I suspect they are both the same guy.
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What about Clapton’s baby falling out a window or off the balcony several years ago? Knowing what we know now, sounds like another unlikely story.
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Good point. The mother was an actress and television personality. The child’s name was CONor born 8/21 (11) fell from the 53rd floor (8). Clapton sure got a lot of mileage from “Tears from Heaven.”
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Yes, and no negative repercussions from gross negligence which would have had a lesser mortal in a lot of hot water.
I do like Clapton, but for me Jack Bruce was the real jewel from Cream. Allegedly turned down better gigs to do his own thing, and may have actually died, as he wasn’t too famous at the end…
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Very unlikely story and aftermath, indeed. I always though about that song how it doesn’t fit Clapton’s regular tunes, the progression in it is so much beyond and above usual coming from him. The “incident” behind the song made it anthology, for sure. Worth a closer look, for sure.
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Was just reflecting on Bowie the other day. How did that skinny androgynous homely freaky early Bowie morph into the more conventionally handsome, “Let’s Dance” video and movie and Top 40 star? The brand had value and they restarted it with someone new.
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I have a colleague who swears blind that Bowie was a twin, he read it in a secondhand book in the eighties which he unfortunately lost when he moved down south. Bowie has/had Jewish roots.
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Yikes! I will keep my distance.
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Hello Alice. This has proven a busy day for me (having already posted twice on the McCartney twins page), but you and your friend would not be wrong; there were two Bowies as well.
They may have both been there from the start, but the focus was more so on one in particular – the one that was seen predominantly throughout the period from 1964-1974, culminating with Aladdin Sane. The swap out occurred during Diamond Dogs, an album that always felt like a divided work. Using an album to create a legitimate change is a clever trick (on the McCartney page I also mentioned that both Beatles groups were on Revolver), and others have gone through this process. Elton John was another “double feature” scenario and both appeared on the “A Single Man” album. I do not even believe that the second Elton is actually bald, since he supposedly received a permanent “staple on raccoon” upon his brow – but the fact of the matter is that he has had those bangs cut several different times over the last 27 odd years, and transplant wigs do not grow. And like both Bowies, there is a discrepancy between both Elton’s vocals. We an Elton singing on Ego (non-album single) in the spring of 1978 with his familiar range, then with the Single Man album (autumn 1978) he has a huskier voice and different inflection. In Michael Jackson’s case, there were three of them, two lay the very least. At this point I wouldn’t dismiss the notion that the original Michael is still black and never had a case of Vitaliggo. The last one, the possible father of Prince, Paris, and Blanket – first appeared (to my knowledge) on the BET Music Awards in 1989.He may even be Arabic, further cementing the connection to Saudi Arabia (both Jermaine and Janet are/we’re married to Saudi Arabians from eh I understand). This was the Michael from Dangerous up until his public death/retirement a decade ago.
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This is fascinating stuff. I know a guy in Australia who is suspicious of two John Lennon’s, something I had to back away from. I am going to link him to your two comments today. He will be very interested.
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Thank you for taking the time to read through my hubris, Mark. I came to this site because a friend shared a link for me to read about the John Denver hoax. From there, it was inevitable that I would find one on McCartney(s) and/or the Beatles. This conspiracy has been with me since I was four, when my dad purchased the red album (1962-1966) back in 1979. While in line I was allowed to hold it, and was transfixed by the gatefold cover. Even at that early age I spotted the difference between the four guys on the front and the four on the back, with the two McCartneys being the most obvious. I told my dad, and all he said was “shut up and hold the album” (of course, my dad does not remember any of it, including buying the album).
The Lennon thing was easy too because the original had a long, straight nose that dipped at the end; where by contrast the second Lennon had a distinctive hook halfway along the bridge. One other piece of interest is that the original Lennon’s left eye socket is actually lower than the right (Lennon #2 has even set eyes). I hope your friend finds any or all of this information useful.
PS
As John Halliday has already been recognized here, I would also like to state that Colin Unwin is probably the original; he has the slightly lower left eye too. The first George may be a fellow now Known as Terry Johnson and Ringo the first may be a guy named Barry Whittle. If these guys are the genuine article, then they’ve got something of a Newheart gag going these days: “Hi, I’m Colin! This here’s John, Terry, and Barry . . .”
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Bowie ch-ch-changed his music styles periodically, I suppose, one twin was more of a rocker and other a soulman (Young Americans/Let’s Dance). I have heard that he and his twin were born 10 minutes apart around 12.
Michael Jackson on the other hand, all those plastic surgery stories, so they could do a swap more believably, though the vitaliggo tale was always a stretch.
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I agree. There’s a difference in the synergies of the two Bowies, and I like to refer to them as “Newley Bowie” (the strongest influence on Bowie 1’s vocals) and Bing Bowie (the apparent strongest influence on Bowie 2’s voice; they also did that Christmas medley back in ’77 as I recall).
The MJ thing is probably the easiest to explain away because it does not have to revolve around a twin, just a white (or as I am convinced Saudi Arabian) guy claiming he bleached himself.
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Re Elton’s wigs. The late BBC Radio/TV star Terry Wogan was reported as having wigs of various lengths to give him the illusion of having a haircut.
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I heard the Wogan tale too. So many pretend to be what they show for the illusion. Elton #2’s wig is supposed to be one of those transplants attached to the scalp or whatever.
I call shenanigans on him because I remember back in the eighties, in one of his lesser known (and even lesser seen) videos at the time, “Who Wears These Shoes”, that there was a discrepancy that me and one of my buddies caught. At some point in the video, a girl either knocked off his hat or he bent too far, and it fell off. In that split second, before the scene cut away, you can see a low buzz cut on his scalp: hair where the balding pattern should have been.
The original Elton (who, like one of the Elvis twins or the original Michael Jackson, may have faded from the public as an Elton John impersonator), as I remember, was balding and balding bad. My question is: is this second Elton the first’s twin or is he a double, doppelganger, etc.
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Simon, please check your email – I sent oyu a private message using the email address associated with this comment.
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This is a slippery slope with MJ. I think MM is right about him being alive in the Middle East. I think that looking into MJ will shine a huge spotlight on the Fakery that surrounds Us on so many levels. MJ was friends with Jane Spook Fonda, Steven Rumored Pedo Spielberg, Yoko and Sean Lennon, Paul McCartney, and Madonna. Then there is the alleged sales of Thriller and the manipulation of the music charts, the 3 kids, Debbie Rowe etc. It would seem that his trial was him being the scape goat for all the other famous pedos. To me the place to start would be with the whole Northern Songs music publishing sale. Who bought it from MJ? Studying the tour that wasn’t insurance lawsuits after his death might shine some light on AIG and the shady way that company operates. Disney, transgender, pedophilia, surrogate pregnancy, Black vs White, money laundrying, fake trials and corrupt courts are just some of the hallmarks of his career. Good luck.
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Never an end to potential research, but I believe in the same paper MM predicted that 2018 would be the year that Paul McCartney would “die” as it is the year he is scheduled to retake ownership of the Beatles catalogue. Won’t miss him.
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Oh yea! Good one on remembering that one. Maybe we’ll all owe M.M. a beer if it occurs. Back to the subject of twins, I recall seeing Elvis in one of his movies when I was around 10 years old. I could have sworn it was not Elvis, he just looked different somehow, and his guitar playing seemed very strained. I completely forgot about it until I read Miles’s piece decades later. I think the setting was in Germany or something. One other thing I have noticed in the past few years is that there is mucho talente in the third world. Some of these performers and musicians could run circles around Hollywood’s best. No doubt in my mind. I often hear George Carlin’s voice reminding me….”Hey, it’s a club and you’r not in it.” BTW I’m making progress on 3 other works. Van Dam, 7 cities of Cibola, and The 80’s S&L Scam. And a few others which are from the 1st half of the 20th century. Probably not familiar to most of the readers here but we can have some fun with them anyway. So please post an e-mail address so I can send you the ( probably Danielle Van Dam ) one. Or just use my Facespook account. I really do have high hopes for this year.
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So, creepy “Paul” who isn’t really Paul and who didn’t write any Beatles songs but who is merely an imposter impersonating the original Paul gets “back” the rights to the Beatles catalog (maybe).
Actually, that’s OK with me because I no longer believe that the original Paul wrote any Beatles songs either, not without a lot of ghostwriting from others anyway. And, the same goes for any version of “John Lennon.”
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I just clicked on straight from the devils mouth link.
then i clicked on his post. he believes everything is a false flag not a hoax
has he lost his mind?
has he gone over the deep end?
has this life gotten to him?
by life i just mean everyday life
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McGowan in his Weird Scenes book does divulge one secret, treating it as an accident or coincidence, and that is the assembly of the “Wrecking Crew” by Phil Spector (who is now serving a fake jail sentence for a fake murder). These are the real and talented musicians who play behind the scenes while others talented at writing music (Cohen and Simon?) provide the songs. They are studio musicians and faceless writers. Among them was Glen Campbell, who broke from the pack and had a public career, but that is the exception. (Some guy who was the drummer for a band, obscure, said that he was shocked to learn that his ten favorite drummers growing up were all Hal Blaine.**) By and large they lacked the looks and and ability to perform in public in such a way that the audience is turned on. I wonder if Clapton and Harrison, like Campbell, were also studio musicians who broke through. (Interesting tidbits from memory, neither George nor Eric relished being alone on stage and sought refuge in groups, like the Wilbury’s.)
The ability to compose pop (or any) music , to play musical instruments, to sing, and to perform it live … I think it highly unlikely that all of that is going to manifest in one person, so it seems natural that the person who performs on stage is benefited by ghosting behind the stage, and that the songs he performs are written by still others and the recordings are by ghosts. McCartney survives because he can sing well enough to pass, but his fingers form a claw and he bangs on the piano keys, merely hitting the right chords, and no, he did not write the music – or if you remember bad songs he performed (Vanilla Sky), then yes, he might have written them. In the early days of the switch from left-handed to right-handed “Paul” they hid him behind the keyboard, but he had not yet learned enough of key banging so we never saw both him and his fingers playing at once.
Here I am writing another damned post. Yes, there are very talented musicians and song writers and lyricists around, they give us the sound track of our lives. We hear them, but don’t see them. The really gifted musician and performer, like Campbell (who could still do the opening riff for Fun Fun Fun deep into Alzheimer’s) is a rarity.
**Bruce Gary, who played drums for the Knack.
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Not sure Paul Simon even writes all his songs. I recall reading many years ago in Spy Magazine how he failed to give credit to the group Los Lobos for a song they wrote. I found reference in this Rolling Stone article, which ties him into a world of psyops, of course.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/paul-simons-graceland-10-things-you-didnt-know-w435711
Here’s a quote from the article, from Steve Berlin of Los Lobos:
“We go into the studio, and he had quite literally nothing,” he said in 2008. “I mean, he had no ideas, no concepts, and said, ‘Well, let’s just jam.'” One full day of playing failed to yield any results, but something caught Simon’s attention on day two. “Paul goes, ‘Hey, what’s that?’ We start playing what we have of it, and it is exactly what you hear on the record. So we’re like, ‘Oh, OK. We’ll share this song.'” When Los Lobos found no trace of their names on the album’s writing credits, they initially assumed that it had been an honest mistake. But when months went by with no restitution, the band’s bemusement turned to anger. “It was not a pleasant deal for us,” maintains Berlin. “I mean he quite literally – and in no way do I exaggerate when I say – he stole the song from us.”
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Another comment on Paul Simon in light of the Los Lobos affair:
First, if you haven’t already seen it, read Miles Mathis’ paper on “The Onion”
Then, read The Onion’s piece on Paul Simon here:
https://www.theonion.com/im-proud-of-all-my-songs-even-the-ones-i-stole-from-pe-1819584768
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So, the question is:
Is Paul Simon really genius songwriter or a genius song thief?
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Peeling the onion backwards, I’d say none of the above, while the story could contain some truth. It completely throws anybody off the track of the writing committee. If there’s actually some truth to it, it’s in the context, that committee members would be the real song thieves.
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So, maybe Paul Simon is on that committee. Maybe he’s the chairman. 🙂
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A letter in this months Guitar Techniques magazine reminded me of this conversation. A reader asked if the magazine had thought of going to some of the big, world famous guitarists for tutorials, top session players regularly provide lessons in the magazine. The editor replied with “the biggest ‘stars’ tend to be more intuitive, and less able or willing to talk about the nuts and bolts of their playing.”
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“By and large they lacked the looks and and ability to perform in public in such a way that the audience is turned on.”
Reminds me of the 80’s pop group Milli Vanilli. These guys apparently had the cool looks and awesome and funky dance moves, but apparently they had no real music or singing skills or talent – they were merely one part of, a front, for the behind-the scenes music talent. Call me weird but I actually liked their music. Was this group and their “outing” possibly a psyop? Actually, if I like a group’s or singer’s music, I could not care less what they look like.
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That is really interesting … it has come up before, Milli Vanilli a psyop to convince us that otherwise, music by live performers and in studios is authentic.
A similar psyop also discussed was Pete Rose – to convince us that baseball is free of gambling and that they watch it carefully.
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Were Rob Pilatus and Fab Morvan of Milli Vanilli in the Peerage?:
(I know both of these guys are black, but with the Obama disaster, one can never know for sure.)
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I see also 3 noses in the blog post; young Michael (black), 20s Michael (half-black) and the freak show it became later.
There are thousands and thousands of Michael Jackson impersonators, even more than Elvis probably.
Yes, the dancing is unique, but can also be done by others after a good amount of training. Money was endless in the Michael Jackson Project.
The final speech video that has been taken by conspiracy theorists as “proof” “they” killed Michael:
(he doesn’t say anything shocking, his attitude when the crowd cheers is that of boredom and the appearance is of course staged and scripted)
The whole Jackson family siblings:
Maureen Reillette “Rebbie” Jackson (born May 29, 1950)[11]
Sigmund Esco “Jackie” Jackson (born May 4, 1951)[11]
Toriano Adaryll “Tito” Jackson (born October 15, 1953)[11]
Jermaine La Jaune Jackson (born December 11, 1954)[11]
LaToya Yvonne Jackson (born May 29, 1956)[11]
Marlon David Jackson (born March 12, 1957)[11]
Brandon Jackson (born and died March 12, 1957)[12]
Michael Joseph Jackson (born August 29, 1958 – died June 25, 2009)
Steven Randall “Randy” Jackson (born October 18, 1961)[11]
Janet Damita Jo Jackson (born May 16, 1966)[11]
note the reference number.
How credible is it that 3 out of 10 were born on the 29th, two even on the same birthday? The others have spook markers too (Janet 6-6-66, Marlon and Brandon 33, Jermaine 11, Randy and Jackie 9).
The genealogy of them is corrupted at Geni. When you go back from the father of Israel Nero Jackson, you go forward in time, from 1800 (his father Jack July Gale) to parents (Israel’s grandparents) born somewhere 1850s-1880s…
https://www.geni.com/people/Israel-Nero-Jackson/6000000013008267448
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There doesn’t seem to be much of a football discussion going on in the other thread so I thought I would ask here if it’s ok: I’d like to hear some theories as to how The Patriots and Brady in particular are pulling this whole “dynasty thing” off? Maybe he really is a great QB, but I’ve seen enough of the PTB and media hype to know he/they are heavily manufactured and somehow propped up. How are they doing this? And what are some specific examples, if you can point me to any. Thanks.
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It looked to me like the Jags did some pretty lame play calling in the fourth quarter to allow another ‘miracle’ comeback. 3rd and 9 they called a low percentage long pass down the sideline when they had been getting guys open on short yardage all game long.
Every sport needs an ‘evil empire.’ Such teams are ratings magnets as people love to root against them, hope they fail. In baseball it has traditionally been the Yankees, a team that despite low draft choices continually comes up with rookies of remarkable quality. In football, at least for the last ten years, it has been the Patriots and Brady, who my naked eye tells me is a very good quarterback, probably bred for that purpose. He is a member of our “Matt Damon Batch.”
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The Jags clock management at the end of the first half was atrocious. It likely cost them the game, as the Patriots had plenty of time for their patented “keep it close” at the half touchdown.
Tony Romo may have figured out his role by now, as he was giddy about the Pats winning, and making ridiculous comments about how the pass rushers wear out as the game goes on, so they have to get to Brady early. What about the offensive line? And how come the Jags were the only team to wear out, on both sides of the ball?
And how do you run 8 yards on a sweep to ice the game when the whole defense knows you’re going to run? The refs ignored an obvious holding penalty, but where was the rest of the defense?
Guess they couldn’t risk the Vikings staying close enough to win by a fluke, and have a home game in the Super Bowl. It’s still interesting to see what the script is week to week…
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I reviewed the names of every team in the NFL. While the most all-American match-up would be Redskins vs. Chiefs, we couldn’t have that. The next two? Patriots vs. Eagles. What does that say about the script?
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This year, all year, it’s about The Flag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwMq5kriaos
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we know for sure, there are ghostwriters writing books for some famous names, we know there are fake musicians only pretending to play or sing while real skilled musicians work in the background. It’s show business people. I’m convinced they always have some passable replacements for every “superstar” they create and if the superstar has to die, the don’t kill the person, they script the death of the start and make a show of it. I think it is a very rare exception when a skilled artist is allowed to get famous and is then really performing on stage using his own body and face. Sometimes they get caught. Milli Vanilli for instance (created by the German Frank Farian, nobody of you ever heard of, who also created many older famous super stars like Boney M). In Germany there was (and still is) that famous trumpeter Stefan Mross who became famous as a child and later there were claims he can hardly play at all. So what? Milli Vanilly looked good on stage. Doesn’t matter if it consists of two good looking guys dancing on the stage, some musicians playing in the background and other persons writing their songs? There are always producers, directors, writers and actors involved. I think they constantly look for skilled persons to create new role models for our entertainment but it is an industry. It’s entertainment. It’s show business. As for Eric Clapton btw., he is not a skilled musician. He can hardly play guitar. That’s why he has to be famous as Mr. slow hand. Eddie Van Halen in comparison to him is a real musician who produces his own music and performs everything in person.
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Another big time novelist I suspect is really a committee out of Langley is Stephen King. I suggested this to Miles via email and mentioned that King’s father’s real name was Pollock (as in Jackson Pollock). I thought Miles might find that interesting in light of his feelings about modern art. Miles said he might look into it.
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I tend to agree with that. The man’s output has been over the years superhuman.
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come on, it’s about a book every year. That’s all he’s doing. With some experience you will develop methods how not to waste time in writing. He now pushes his son up into his footsteps. I think, he really writes everything himself. The contents of his books reflects his aging. I read the most of his books over the years and it feels consistent with his age and live experience. He has to obey the mainstream though and make his protagonists politically correct. So there are black computer hackers, strong women, gay characters, etc. He probably invented the idea of driving a car into a crowd in his Mr. Mercedes. which has been used in many recent fake events.
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I think I could write that much as well, so I take your point. (I do not have on hand a willing publisher.) As I read your comment the notion crossed my mind of the alleged ability of two Beatles at a very young age to produce scores of what were then regarded as high quality pop tunes, some with sophisticated chord progressions (Michelle, Yesterday), this from young chaps who could not read music on a printed page. In the same manner, King has produced a long string of, if nothing else, highly creative books (I’ve only read It and The Stand) that continually catch the public’s eye. Maybe that is where the notion that he fronts for a writing committee has more merit, as the output of artists over time usually diminishes in quality.
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My thoughts on King have nothing to do with the volume of his output. It’s WHAT “he writes,” not how much.
I’m sorry that you like his stuff and I mean nothing personal towards you but the bulk of Stephen King’s stuff seems incredibly sick to me.
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There is an episode of The Simpsons titled “The Book Job” which parodies the idea of famous authors’ works actually being ghost-written. You can see a synopsis of it on the wiki here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_Job
…or, you can probably view the entire episode on sites that provide such.
The parody seems to mostly target JK Rowling but there are references to other authors as well.
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rolleikin, SK is called the Master of Horror for a reason. Even though the most of his stories I would described as mystery. But horror is the basis of all the fear porn we are being fed every day. SK simply does his part in it. Otherwise he wouldn’t get published. That’s his market gap and he simply makes his living feeding us with “horror” ideas like that of a car driven into a crowd of poor people. It’s no different to all the fake news we have to swallow every day. Knowing this I still can enjoy many of his books. I no longer take this seriously. I like stories and he is a good story teller. And I know all Simspons episodes. I’m a fan.
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“It’s about a book a year”. I’d suspect he has been getting help over the years with his name on the titles. There’s a lot involved in writing a book, and S King needs rest and recuperation like the rest of us, unless he is infact, “superhuman”.
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one more thought on bestseller writers. Robert Ludlum, the author of the Jason Bourne books died in 2001, yet there are still books being published where his name is used. I mean you still can buy new Ludlum books. SK still has to earn his money so he writes and writes. Other authors definitely use support of ghost writers. The latest Ken Follett war trilogy reads in parts like written by many different persons. Michael Crichton books come from the same source as Thomas Harris’ Hannibal Lecter series. Harris wrote only one small book called “Black Sunday” himself. It’s not very good.
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SK was 31 when he wrote The Stand. He explains that in his book on writing.
Another interesting case is David Mitchell, the author of “the cloud atlas” and 8 (!!!) books in total where his latest 8-th book called “From Me Flows What You Call Time” won’t be published until 2114. It seems to be his last book. The other seven are great reads. Very educated.
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SK is 70 years old now. He’s getting weaker in his latest books. Also he writes with his son now. There may be no real SK books in future anymore. I think, they let writers write bestsellers as long as they obey and stick to the script. They can be easily controlled. It is easy to make a former bestseller writer a non-bestseller writer. They just stop promoting them. It is not that easy to make a movie or music star a non-star. Actors or musicians live in front of the camera. Even very bad actors still stay stars in the media. They also can bring them back any time, as they did with Travolta. So if they want to “unstar” an actor permanently, he has to “die”.
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Way back in my 30s I would wander up and down teh fiction section of the library looking for authors who had published a lot of books, and found Ludlum. I loved the guy and read everything he wrote. I don’t remember the particular book but know he died half way through it and another author picked up. I could tell exactly where that spot occurred in the book, tossed it and have never looked at another.
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You may recall that one of MM’s guest writers did some excellent research on Ludlum connecting him to the George Huntington Hartford, head of the Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Compan (A&P). That guest writer concluded, “I bet most of his books were written by Intelligence and they just put his name on them.”
In some of my recent research, I also connected the old cowboy actor Harry Carey/Harry Carey, Jr. to this same family. His mother Ella Ludlum, cousin of George Huntington Hartford’s wife, Marie Josephine Ludlum.
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Speaking of writers, I will be eternally grateful to whomever clears the fog surrounding the following mystery, the “death” of one of my heroes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Edgar_Allan_Poe
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Start with the Alan Parson Project “Tales of Mystery and Imagination.” Sorry, Lawrence Rothman, I was Just Kidding.
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Hey Kev! I always figured Taos, NM was a boring place. How wrong I was… now on my list of places to visit. Have you been there?
https://taos.org/
Click to access TaosVisitorGuide2016.pdf
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Only one exclamation mark? I dunno. Ask Kit Carson’s great-grandchildren, I guess.
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Young MJ doesn’t have the sanpaku eyes. Not sure that can be surgically altered.
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I never believed in the transformation from a regular negro boy to a semi white adult. To big the differences. Also his style changed a lot. The Jackson Five MJ was as funky as Earth, Wind and Fire. The Thriller MJ was like a character of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Later he became some kind of dancing actor. They played the same scheme with races like they are playing now with sexes. Like there is no races at all and a black person can become white, etc. I even saw something recently somewhere in the media where a white person wants to become black. I think, they used at least three different persons for the different stages of life of one Michael Jackson. The middle one first made more black than he really was and later more white. Also MJ wasn’t neither a good dancer or a good singer. His shows always needed a lot of support from huge teams of dancers to make him look better. He is mostly known for his moon walking style. Even Justin Bieber does that in his latest clip.
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Check out, Sammy Sosa. https://www.google.com/search?q=sammy+sosa&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS755US755&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjq7OLY1OvYAhUOt1MKHYEgC0AQ_AUICigB&biw=1088&bih=522#imgrc=UVOFxUG17nx6XM:
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Straight was looking at Sosa and LeBron James, thinking they might be related, and that their success might be preordained by bloodline. It ended there.
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The way he looks now gives me the willies. And I don’t mean Willie Mays, McCovey, and Stargell.
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Black people can look very black or almost white depending on light conditions. See O.J. Simpson. But it definitely is a case of ethnic mainstreaming. You can also lighten the skin to a some degree using cosmetics. But not permanently.
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Thanks for the new word!
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It can be surgically altered according to this guy:
“Retraction of the lower lid, giving the eye a distinctive rounded shape, is a common complication following cosmetic surgery—specifically lower-lid blepharoplasty, which removes lines and tightens the skin. Fear not, though: plastic surgeons have developed a second cosmetic procedure to remedy the effects of procedure numero uno, basically by raising the whole cheek below, thus creating enough slack to restore the shape of the eye and cover up that extra sclera.”
https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/columns/straight-dope/article/13047713/what-causes-sanpaku-eyes-and-what-the-hell-are-sanpaku
But still. At least 2 MJ’s to my untrained eye. Maybe 3
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Noticed the ‘final’ Straight post and am hearing a bit on the net about ‘Q’ … ‘TYLER’ etc … ‘Catcher in the Rye’ anagrams ‘chicanery tether’ … Tyler Durden contains the word ‘durneder’ … on the wordplays dot com site they use ‘damned for their definition when the word ‘durneder’ is moused … ‘TYLER’ could be ‘try EL’ …. ‘Mary try EL Moore’ ?? … Durden equals ‘333’ ‘satanic’ using the ‘Gematrinator’ that google delivers us … I am wondering how Straight will handle Quinn Michaels in the land of ‘Q’ …. ‘Try EL Durneder’ ??? spooky
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Was this idiotic federal government shutdown a psyop?
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“Actually, if I like a group’s or singer’s music, I could not care less what they look like.”
Now this reminds me of British singing sensation Susan Boyle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Boyle
Definitely not a looker, but she can indeed sing if she’s real. But could TPTB be screwing with us here?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lawrence_Kuhn
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Of course there are different noses, as he (reportedly) had several plastic surgeries; Jackson (reportedly) had too much of his nose removed, which caused blood circulation and cartilage problems. And yes, I do believe a plastic surgeon can create a nose like he ended up with–just take a look at the proliferation of freaks online that have dramatically changed their appearances. Here’s a link to some information on the subject, including a plastic surgeon’s analysis; somebody even did some face splits to show it’s the same person. https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Michael-Jackson-undergo-so-much-plastic-surgery
It’s the EARS you need to compare, as they tend not to change as other facial features do. “Ear prints” are now claimed to be more accurate than fingerprints: “the outer ear may prove to be one of the most accurate and least intrusive ways to identify people…When you’re born your ear is fully formed. The lobe descends a little, but overall it stays the same.” https://www.cse.msu.edu/~rossarun/pubs/RossEarRecognition_IEEECOMP2011.pdf
After examining dozens of photos of Jackson, I see a changing face, but the ears are still the same. No telling what happened after he started wearing a wig, as his ears no longer are visible. I remember following all this in the media during that time, and thought he was trying to look like his good friend, Diana Ross. There’s no question that he was having an identity crisis: “A boy grows up without a true childhood, he gravitates towards youth in attempt to hold on to it, builds a large estate called Neverland Ranch, and wishes to be more like the free-spirited, mischievous boy that can fly and never grows old – Peter Pan. In addition, potentially struggling with his sexuality and orientation, he also is drawn to Pan’s motherly counterpart, Wendy.”
Michael Jackson was obviously another project, so the question that REALLY needs to be asked is cui bono? What was the agenda? I see it as the promotion of the arrested development/Peter Pan/transgender/transhuman agenda: Don’t like your looks? Want to change your sex, or look androgynous? Changing yourself is not only easy, but now acceptable! Also throw in some childhood abuse, mental illness, pedophilia and mixed-race offspring, along with several others I’ve probably missed. The agenda was to get these subjects into the public eye and psyche; no matter whether it was to accuse, defend or justify Jackson’s lifestyle choices, the end result is widespread public familiarization and acceptance of those ideas.
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Check his height!! Pre Pepsi commercial ‘fire’ & later post surgery. His role? DISTRACT public attention. Making his handlers/owners (((Ho;;wood /Music Tribe))) big dollars. Mind fung-king the viewer & listeners w/ beats & subject matter of that music messages driven into the subconscious of the young impressionable minds. Always tying in the TAVISTOCK masterpiece OG mind rape band The Beatles to further elevate MJ’s genius level.
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