Peculiar Plots – Part 1 – The Ludicrous Lusitania

As promised and mentioned in my introduction, I would like to treat 3 stories, narratives, -or rather plots- that caught my attention in recent months. The 3 peculiar plots, as I think is an appropriate title for the series, are related in a way, have similar features and were all happening in the same time frame; the early 20th century; pre-WWII.

Part 1 in this series is about the first plot, a strange story indeed, and though not as well known with the general public (especially outside of the US) as similar stories as Titanic or 9/11, it shares a lot with them.

Allegedly, in May 1915, a German submarine sank, in 18 minutes, a ship full of people, probable ammunition and according to some stories a huge amount of valuable materials on board. The story is surrounded by mystery, intrigue, “conspiracy theories” and doubt, which makes for a good case for us, truth seekers, to look into.

It is said that this event, much like the sinking of the USS Maine for the Spanish-American War of 1898 -just 17 years before-, the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 -an admitted false flag- for the Vietnam War, 9/11 for the invasions and occupations of the poppy fields of Afghanistan and oil wealth of Iraq, and similar narratives as the burning of the Reichstag, the “testimony” by ambassador daughter Nayirah on 10-10-‘90, no less, and many others, was the reason the US “got into” World War I.

From the onset, that part of the plot already seems odd (“it rhymes, so it’s true” is a Dutch saying). The US, according to the his-story books, entered WWI late, in 1917. That is nearly 2 years after this event happened, or “happened”. On the other hand, those poor brainwashed US soldiers were trampling Afghan soil by December 2001, a mere 3 months after the alleged “terror attack” in NYC, Pennsylvania and Washington D.C.??

The plot itself reads like a badly written fiction novel and probably that is closer to the truth than what allegedly happened there in the Irish Sea, 18 km (or 11 miles) off the coast of southeastern Ireland. 761 (7-7, London, anyone?) people supposedly survived…

As a starter, I would like to invite you to just read the story -and what better source is there than schizowikipedia?- from beginning to end. Not out of “laziness” on my part, but because I think what the Jonestown series nicely demonstrated, is that a group effort where different pieces of mind look into a narrative, gives a much broader view. In the end, we are all putting the pieces of the puzzle together, and my own take on the story is not and should not be leading. Just read it, it’s fun. And in the comments we can unwind this spaghetti story more together.

Mind you, Kevin, one of your silent era sewing circle “ladies” comes across, a nice numb nugget, I’d say (but yeah, I love alliterations…)

The Sinking of RMS Lusitania (May 7, 1915)

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  1. This incident has more rabbit holes than Elmer Fudd’s back yard. But assuming it was a fake event, would 764 have sailed onboard and then later be called survivors? That is a large hoax to maintain. Wiki is littered with spook markers, far more than usual. Has anyone wached the National Geographic special where they visited the wreckage, situated 11 miles offshore in 330 feet of water? I do hope people take up the challenge. I’ll do what I can, as reading the Wiki page on the event assured me it was/is fake. They only needed to change the name of the vessel, as with Titanic and Olympia.

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  2. I didn’t even need to visit the page to know that you are referring to Rita Jolivet. She was going to be, along with Mary Pickford, a highlight of my next “Sewing Circle” article.

    Jolivet was standing with Charles Frohman on the bridge when the liner went down. Jolivet was being groomed for stardom by Frohman. The theatrical producer uttered his final words to her, quoting his favourite play, Peter Pan: “Why fear death? It is the most beautiful adventure in life.”

    Jolivet climbed onto a chair and obtained a life preserver that was in her stateroom. She plunged into the Atlantic Ocean. She was saved with others when boats arrived from Ireland.

    Riiiiiight. I’m sure it happened just like that.

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    1. Ha good catch!

      I thought you also covered:

      The Carpet from Bagdad is a 1915 American silent adventure film directed by Colin Campbell and based on Harold MacGrath’s 1911 eponymous novel. In the story, Horace Wadsworth (played by Guy Oliver), one of a gang of criminals also planning a bank robbery in New York, steals the titular prayer rug from its Baghdad mosque. He sells the carpet to antique dealer George Jones (Wheeler Oakman) to fund the robbery scheme. But the theft places both men and Fortune Chedsoye (Kathlyn Williams), the innocent daughter of another conspirator, in danger from the carpet’s guardian.

      Because I could swear I saw you posted this picture, but now cannot find it…

      Kathleen Mabel Williams

      Williams was married three times. Although many biographies erroneously cite her first husband as being Victor Kainer, he was in fact named Otto H. “Harry” Kainer (1876–1952), who ran an import and export business on Wall Street in New York City. They were wed on October 2, 1903, and their son, Victor Hugo, was born in 1905. The Kainers resided at 301 Nicholas Avenue in Manhattan.

      On May 8, 1905 [10 years -1 day before “Lusitania”], she successfully sued her husband for $20,000 for not paying her $10,000 on the day of their marriage [??] and for every year of their marriage. The case made headlines in newspapers across the country, and made its way to the New York Supreme Court. They supposedly divorced over Kainer’s disapproval of his wife having an acting career,and Williams subsequently obtained a divorce from Kainer in 1909 in Nevada.

      On March 4, 1913, she married Frank R. Allen, also an actor, but the marriage was a failure from the start and lasted a little over a year.

      She later married Paramount Pictures executive Charles Eyton on June 2, 1916, in Riverside, California.

      For her contribution to the motion picture industry, Kathlyn Williams has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame

      Like many films from the silent era, The Carpet from Bagdad was believed completely lost, but in 1982 an Oceaneering International diving expedition salvaged a number of artifacts from the wreck of the RMS Lusitania, including one reel of film.

      67 years of Atlantic sea water apparently does as much to film reels as the Van Allen Belts to the crisp and clear Apollo photos…

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      1. Gaia, Kathlyn Williams is disqualified from my Sewing Circle because she “supposedly” had a son named Victor Hugo:

        On February 25, 1922, her son, Victor, died suddenly at the age of 16 from complications of influenza at Good Samaritan Hospital in Los Angeles, and his remains were cremated. [11] Her son was previously enrolled at Harvard Military Academy before he became a student at Hollywood High School.

        Apparently Victor chose to pursue his acting career COVERTLY. Of course, the famous writer Victor Hugo was born to military royalty.

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        1. Besides Rita Jolivet, two other (childless) actresses were aboard the Lusitania:

          Josephine Brandell survived. Josephine Brandell married her fourth husband, Beresford Cecil Bingham, the 8th Earl of Annesley, and 9th Viscount of Glerawly, earning her the title of “Countess of Annesley.” She had no descendants despite four marriages.

          Amelia Herbert perished (aged 58) six years after the death of her husband. They had no descendants.

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        2. “In order to make ends meet, her mother made extra money by renting out homes* in nearby Centerville, Montana. Her family was of limited means; therefore, Kathlyn had to rely on the charity of others to pay her way through school; she was sponsored by Butte copper magnate and politician William A. Clark**, who paid for her to train at the Sargent School of Acting, better known as the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, in New York City.” wiki

          *Did her mother OWN the homes she rented out?
          **Mark Twain wrote of Clark in 1907 – “He is as rotten a human being as can be found anywhere under the flag; he is a shame to the American nation, and no one has helped to send him to the Senate who did not know that his proper place was the penitentiary, with a ball and chain on his legs. To my mind he is the most disgusting creature that the republic has produced since Tweed’s time.”
          “I never bought a man who wasn’t for sale.” W.A. Clark

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          1. Read about Clark in a book called “Montana, High, Wide and Handsome.” In those days US senators were appointed, and if I recall correctly, Clark was the one who got the seat by openly handing out cash bribes on the state senate floor in Helena.

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    1. Absolutely ridiculous! Your link was written by a BBC reporter named Alice based on information provided by a fiction writer/former cop.

      From the linked article: The vessel sliced the Princess Alice in two with a sickening crash.

      “The panic on board was terrible, the women and children screaming and rushing to the bridge for safety,” Merryman’s witness account reads.

      “I at once rushed to the captain and asked what was to be done and he exclaimed: ‘We are sinking fast, do your best.’

      “Those were the last words he said. At that moment, down she went.”

      Panic was terrible. Vessel sliced in two. Women and children screaming. So the survivor Merry Man and the captain decide to engage in conversation! “We are sinking.” Gee, thanks Captain Obvious!

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      1. Same old format – no bodies, empty coffins, acres of news coverage, a lengthy inquest, the familiar memorial, lying witnesses.. Tried and tested and still being used today for every staged major fire/crash/”terror” attack 140 years on.

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    1. That is misdirection … remember, if they can get you to ask the wrong question, get you to chase the wrong rabbit, your thoughts and answers do not matter.

      This is how people in power work – they don’t lie to us. They misdirect. Was it the CIA or the mob that offed Kennedy? Actually, neither. He didn’t die, not that day, anyway.

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    2. For something to “let it happen on purpose”, there still needs to be something happening. It is that question that is interesting. Did NORAD “let ‘it’ [what?’] happen on purpose”? And why Churchill? Is the head of the British Admirality the only player in this story full of plot holes? Turner a hero? You know he was heavily interrogated and left public life shortly after? Hmm, not much of a hero, is it?

      • Why was Turner replacing the normal captain just for this voyage? Coincidence or convenience? In the end, a reliable actor is needed to play a role. And actors enough on board of the Lusitania.

      • Why was the Lusitania going so slow in the most dangerous waters? They tell us it was to arrive in Liverpool at high tide (makes sense) and not wait close to the safety of the harbor for making land (does not make sense). The British coast is easier to defend than open Irish sea.

      • Why did so many rich-‘an-famous people (think about that other movie script 3 years before, of the Titanic, that actually was based on a novel!) board that ship after all the warnings in the newspapers in the preceding weeks?

      You know when it’s snowy or icy in winter they send out warnings “not to go on the streets unless you have to”?

      The famous scene of Die Hard with a Vengeance springs to mind when thinking about this, the one where Bruce Willis walks through Harlem with the sign “I hate niggas” around his neck.

      Basically with all the ridiculous points in this story it is more like dressing up your little girl as a gazelle and let her walk with such sign through the Kruger Park surrounded by horny and hungry Black Panthers…

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    3. We see the same misdirection in the Titanic hoax. They will have people to only question certain elements of the story (what sank the Titanic, who did it, why it happened, how it happened, was it intentional, did another ship sink, etc.) without letting them ask the real question: Did it happen at all? You will find all sorts of conspiracy theories promoted by the algorithms that service that intention.

      Here is my video on the Titanic hoax:

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  8. I have found some information relating to life insurance claims in the Lusitania saga. They are here:

    https://www.rmslusitania.info/primary-docs/mcc/life-insurance/

    https://www.rmslusitania.info/primary-docs/mcc/opinion/

    There was dispute regarding Germany’s alleged role in the “disaster” and whether or not the German gov’t was liable to pay compensation to the friends and relations of the Lusitania “victims”. Pretty interesting, if you ask me.

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    1. Similarly, the Hindenburg disaster was also a hoax.

      The real Hindenburg was never destroyed. It was a different Zeppelin that was burnt that day. If you study the footage closely, you’ll see that’s not it:

      Click to access hind.pdf

      Nobody died that day. The real Hindenburg was either scrapped or had its design altered and reappeared as a different airship. You see the same pattern with the real Titanic. She never sank, and there is no wreck, either. She became a different ship and enjoyed a long and glorious career as the Imperator/Berengaria.

      And why would they fake this? The zeppelins were big money losers and only wealthy clientele could afford to travel on them. But the wealthy lost favor for the zeppelins and instead promoted and traveled on newer, sleeker aircraft that were being developed at the time. Possibly the rich people that wanted to disappear were aware that the Second World War will happen and they faked their deaths and embezzled huge monies from the insurance companies, leaving the underwriters to pay for an airship that never even went down. Additionally, the Big Oil industry saw fuel-efficient transportation as a threat to their profit margins so they intentionally destroyed an entire industry of travel-by-airship to make way for petroleum-based transportation:

      https://www.titanicandhindenburg.com/

      So what happened to the real Hindenburg if it never went down? She became another zeppelin, the USS Los Angeles, and was scrapped in 1939:

      Hindenburg:

      Los Angeles:

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      1. And speaking of the Hindenburg, DYK the date it was “scuttled”? May 6, 1937 (5/6/37, 5+6 = 11, 3×7 = 21 = 777 hoax code, 9 = number of completion). This was a huge hoax for its time, just like the Titanic was in 1912. It was also a massive insurance scam.

        https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/east/2017/05/08/450228.htm

        In today’s estimates, it would actually be valued at $275,000,000. They are undercutting the number to conceal the actual scope of the bailout.

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        1. Addendum: Upon doing further research, I found that Germany constructed another zeppelin after the Hindenburg disaster – the Graf Zeppelin II, which was launched in 1938. It was “decommissioned” in 1940 during WWII. Maybe it was the Hindenburg previously?

          Hindenburg:

          https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/airship/images/a/a1/4236436682_cb1d46aea4_b-1-.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141115012042

          Graf Zeppelin II:

          https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/view-of-the-german-airship-lz-130-graf-zeppelin-ii-in-flight-late-picture-id559143857?s=594×594

          What do you guys think?

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  10. Here are newspaper frontlines about the Lusitania “disaster”:

    As you can see, just like in the first reports about the Titanic event, the numbers always change. Had this been a real tragedy, the numbers wouldn’t fluctuate so much, they would be pretty close. Certainly the newspapers would’ve known where the numbers came from and tried their best to cross-examine their sources before publishing the figures if this wasn’t a hoax and if there was no intention to mislead and confuse their readers. But as the evidence shows, that wasn’t the case at all.

    Another story from the Lusitania saga was that of millionaire businessman A. G. Vanderbilt, Sr. He allegedly died on the ship while travelling in first-class on a business trip. During the sinking, he reportedly gave his life jacket to a woman with child despite the fact that he couldn’t swim without one. Rather odd, if you ask me.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Gwynne_Vanderbilt#RMS_Lusitania

    In the same Wiki article, it mentions that his wife and descendants inherited incredible sums of money from his will after his “death”. It appears as though the Vanderbilts made bank off of this scam, as did many notable people involved.

    “After Alfred’s death aboard the Lusitania in 1915, Margaret bought a 316-acre estate in Lenox, Massachusetts, with a 47-room mansion. She remarried twice, first on June 12, 1918, in Lenox Raymond T. Baker (1875–1935), a politician with whom she had a daughter, Gloria Baker (1920–1975). The claim for his estate was put forward Margaret, who by that point was already remarried. The net value of the estate, after the payment of all debts and funeral and administration expenses, was $15,594,836.32.

    By the terms of his will, Margaret and his three sons would inherit $1,180,098.18. In addition, for their maintenance and for the support and comfort of his widow and children, he expended and contributed approximately $300,000 annually.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Gwynne_Vanderbilt#Personal_life

    In today’s currency, the $1.1M inheritance (1915) would translate into $30M, annual inflation adjusted.

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  11. Even the Lusitania’s design is full of symbolism. For example, her draught (vertical distance between the waterline and the bottom of the hull) was 33 ft. 7 in., her length was 787 ft., and her displacement was 44,000 tons.

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    1. Miles Mathis just published an essay on the Lusitania hoax. He has finally stepped-up his game to uncover the story. He also does an extensive coverage on the Booths and their connection to the psyop, catching on to what I discovered earlier, as well as the other obvious anomalies such as the fact that the British Navy didn’t take measures to secure the area the Lusitania was sailing into and the complete ignorance by passengers of warnings of imminent danger by the German government, which I have discussed before.

      Click to access lusi.pdf

      At the end of his essay, he mentions that the British Navy took extensive efforts at destroying the alleged Lusitania wreckage and suggests that this probably was done to hide the fact that it wasn’t the ship. Plus, both the Lusitania and the Titanic inquiries were presided over by the same judge: Lord Mersey (nee John Bigham), another peerage spook. This proves once again that the disaster was faked.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bigham,_1st_Viscount_Mersey

      NOTE: Captain Turner could be related to Ted Turner, famous media magnate and owner of CNN and InfoWars, controlling the opposition there, of course. Turner was born in Liverpool to a seafaring family. Liverpool is the center of trade and intelligence, as Mathis himself revealed in previous papers, e.g. his paper on Paul McCarthy and the Beetles. The Titanic and the Lusitania were registered in Liverpool. As commandeer of the Lusitania, he has received much controversy for his role in the sinking. He died in 1933.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thomas_Turner

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner

      https://www.houseofnames.com/turner-family-crest

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      1. Another aspect of this “tragedy” that completely blows the whole story is the “wreck” of the Lusitania. Like the Titanic “wreck”, much secrecy and uncertainty has surrounded it for a long time. Decades after the “sinking”, the British admiralty reportedly attempted to destroy the alleged Lusitania wreck in order to cover up evidence that it contained explosives inside the bowls of the ship. Unsurprisingly, the wreck is in terrible condition, with its superstructure already collapsing on itself, making it incredibly hard to identify the vessel as the infamous Cunard liner. How convenient.

        For analysis, watch this recent expedition to the alleged wreck of the Lusitania (2019):

        “The wreck of Lusitania lies on her starboard side at an approximately 30-degree angle in 305 feet (93 metres) of sea water. She is severely collapsed onto her starboard side as a result of the force with which she slammed into the sea floor, and over decades, Lusitania has deteriorated significantly faster than Titanic because of the corrosion in the winter tides. The keel has an “unusual curvature”, in a boomerang shape, which may be related to a lack of strength from the loss of her superstructure.[126] The beam is reduced with the funnels missing presumably to deterioration.[126] The bow is the most prominent portion of the wreck with the stern damaged from depth charging in the Second World War as well as the removal of three of the four propellers by Oceaneering International in 1982 for display.”

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_RMS_Lusitania#Wreck_site

        “The British government has always been evasive about the presence of munitions on Lusitania. Two cargo manifests were submitted; the second, filed after the ship sailed, indicated there were light munitions on board. Some believe the ship was carrying much more, however, and that the British Navy attempted to destroy the wreck in the 1950s to conceal its military cargo.”

        https://archive.archaeology.org/0901/trenches/lusitania.html

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  12. And, of course, we cannot forget these Lusitania fakes:

    The lady in the first photo was a Booth-Jones and she was 8 years old when she “died” on the Lusitania. The Booths and the Joneses have been involved in several hoaxes for centuries. John Wilkes Booth of the Lincoln assassination hoax and Alex Jones of the InfoWars psyop comes to mind. The girl almost looks like a mannequin in that “photo”. She gives off a plastic vibe to me. The two other pictures speak for themselves.

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