To quote MM

“Despite that, I would say things are looking pretty good long-term for those of us who refused the vaccines et al. The rest of the year will be turbulent, but I think that after the mid-term elections things may stabilize a bit. I think that is part of the plan. After that, the results of the great culling will start coming in, and will come in for decades. The primary result will be 10-20% fewer people on planet Earth, which—though achieved by murder—will have its upsides for those of us left. I expect the housing market to cool way off, for instance, due to a glut of existing housing. It will quickly go from a sellers’ market to a buyers’ market.” (Miles Mathis, side note in paper titled Charles Dickens)

I am not one to feign moral superiority over anyone, so I am not repeating these words to defame Mr. Mathis in any way. His outlook is practical, and I think (I do not know) spoken by someone who rents and had trouble finding housing when he left Taos, New Mexico. It sounds as if he wants to buy in to the housing market.

I, on the other hand, am a homeowner, and my first thought on reading these words was “Oh no, our house value is going to go down.”

“Where you stand depends on where you sit.” (Rufus Edward Miles) (No relation.)

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PS: I learned about this from John le Bon – the Georgia Guidestones have been destroyed.

https://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-news/deja-news-georgia-guidestones-gone-but-mystery-of-their-1980s-origin-remains/IEU4BJ53AFFYZCEONC45DFGSX4/

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  1. Somehow, I don’t think the coronahoax (or any hoaxes) are designed to benefit those who aren’t fooled by them.

    I’ve stopped reading Miles. The smug, know-it-all tone he brings to bluntly idiotic pronouncements like this is not much different than the tone the New York Times and other mainstream beacons of phony truth bring to theirnonsense. Ugh.

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    1. I skim him, he losing me with genealogy and Phoenicians. Lestrade has another piece up, Guadalcanal, which I will read this evening. It is 67 pages. I hope there are a lot of photos.

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      1. Do you think “he” is intentionally misdirecting with the constant Phoenicians conclusions?

        Also, what group do you think is behind all of the chaos and Evil, if it’s not “Phoenicians”?

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        1. Most certainly a form of misdirection. Just pop into CTTF and you will find that out. Miles doesn’t know how to accept being wrong. He disagreed with me on a matter of raising children and I let him know he was speaking out of turn, because he has no experience raising a child. He went on to say something like, “well I’m not a pilot either, but I can comment on the lift on a wing.” Just a very weak analogy. I was, however, the one outted as a spook. Yet, CTTF is ran by a guy from an Israeli think tank and Miles’ mother is connected to a liberal think tank, Common Cause.

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          1. MM is clearly on the slide, the magic is gone. Lestrade’s piece on Guadalcanal, etc however, is pretty good. A real dearth of photos from such a long and vital campaign adds to the mystery. The whole Pacific operation was no doubt overblown and lots of wink, wink, nudge, nudge by the moneymen of all lands. The logistics obstacles go a long way toward rethinking the reality versus the legend. Supposedly, massive tunnels were built by the ant-like Japanese (everywhere? none seem extant, and present-day tours of same would yield tourist $), massive fuel and water depots, barracks, food stores, etc, tons per day to maintain even 10,000 men in remote locations.

            Still, “The Thin Red Line” is a damn good film. 🙂

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            1. That was a good film! I was trying to remember if that was the war it was based on.

              I had some complaints about the length and IIRC sometimes the “artiness” was overboard. But there were some great scenes. It really made an attempt to be “realistic,” or plausible – that is, if there had been such a battle, this is likely how it would have been…

              Most war movies seem to focus on the grunts and lower level commanders. When generals and planners are shown, I’m not aware of any that try to do so in much detail or depth. If it’s all bs, they could still fabricate a plausible “reality,” but rarely seem to try. I do remember a military TV series with Dennis Hopper where he was in the military bureaucracy or high level Pentagon. But I only saw a few scenes, not really sure what they were going for.

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      2. Do you think MM is intentionally misdirecting with the constant Phoenicians conclusions?

        Also, what group do you think is behind all of the chaos and Evil, if it’s not “Phoenicians”?

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          1. Mark Tokarski, that person was me. I will remain nameless and will post here anonymously. You are an astute man. I know this because you let open discourse thrive here at POM. Ever notice that Miles Mathis and Josh Guetzkow tolerate no dissent? Odd, given Miles’ professed affiliation with true Liberalism. Now we have Guetzkow writing for Substack (very spooky if you ask me) and Senator Ron Johnson just recently quoted one of his papers on vaccines on the Senate floor. What? Really? And Miles does not suspect Guetzkow of spookish behavior? The hypocrisy is deeply troubling. After reading Miles’ Dickens paper I came away perplexed, yet again, only because he mentions relationship with Sir Walter Scott and George Washington. While he is totally correct on that point and I will not dispute it, how strange and odd that he refuses to mention that both Sir Walter Scott and George Washington were the two most powerful 33rd Degree Freemasons of that era, still praised and worshiped by Freemasons of all stripes all around the entire globe today. In fact, if you take Mozart, Goethe, Sir Walter Scott, George Washington, Beethoven,and Russel, you are naming perhaps some of the most powerful members of the Order ever in its entire history, which I believe, like the Order itself, originates roughly 15,000 – 20,000 years ago, growing from the Priesthood orders of ancient sun-worshiping cults. I know Miles lurks here and I’m almost certain he knows my style of writing. He still refuses to admit Phoenicians were part of that ancient Freemasonic sun-worshiping tradition that has origins in the most ancient ages of antiquity. Why? That’s the origin of the phoenix symbol, the sun was a bird that died each evening in the west and then grew from its ashes in the morning in the east–the same way the Order has risen from its ashes century after century since the earliest ages of antiquity. Perhaps he is misdirecting to keep our eyes off the Freeemasonic question? But there is absolutely no denying that 80% of his subject matter directly concerns that question. A man of his titanic erudition just simply could not have possible overlooked this fact. So now the question remains why. Anyway, I’ll drop by every once in a while when an interesting subject grabs my interest and I’m deeply grateful to you, Mark, for allowing civil discourse here. Very few do that any more–including Miles and Josh.

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            1. Is your moniker a joke of a sort? Like, in our faces one? I mean, choosing a freemason’s name to preach about anything? Frankly, I hear crying for attention from a freemason member since Miles gives you none.

              And for the umpteenth time, why do you want to give impression that groupie’s name (freemasons) is more important than the names of all members? It’s about the people with power, not about any boy club’s membership, for heavens sake. Think!

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      3. Lestrade has part 8 of his Pacific War series up.

        Funnily enough, Tom Hanks is quoted as saying:- “I always wanted to play Lestrade of Scotland Yard ’cause he’s a buffoon that gets to wear a uniform. I thought that would be fun.” No Lestrade has worn a uniform to my knowledge, that includes the Basil Rathbone, Ron Howard and Cumberbatch versions. Guess who looks like him here:
        https://big-lies.org/mileswmathis/index.html

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  2. “The primary result will be 10-20% fewer people on planet Earth, which—though achieved by murder—will have its upsides for those of us left.”

    Bill Gates himself said something similar about vaccines back in 2010 (that was when we had the H1N1 scamdemic and the vaccine campaign that followed). He said that if we get enough people vaccinated that the human population will drop by at least 10% or so.

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            1. How interesting. I was actually looking at “tax money” images on my search engine when you commented. We all know how they spend the sheeple’s tax dollars, 😊:

              And that’s only the tip of the iceberg. Include welfare payments for rich people like Jamie Dimon or oil execs.

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                1. I think the meme is there to highlight the ways politicians and bureaucrats squander tax dollars on things the sheeple think shouldn’t be spent on. But, then again, your average person is probably so brainwashed it will never get the message.

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          1. A huge building went up really quickly a couple years ago across from the high school, manufacturing (I guess, because the building is that huge) and selling head stones. ‘Health care’ (hospitals and clinics) is the biggest industry in our region. That and prisons.

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              1. Yup. It’s a brain drain too, because they get the better workers, of course. Leaving the ‘entrepreneurial’ ventures very dim, like goat-yoga studios and restaurants that can’t stay in business.

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  3. I don’t know about the murder thing, but it does seem like demographics are fixing to dramatically shift. The baby boomers are getting old, for one, and they typically did not have as many kids as their parents did. Immigration will replace them and combined with the Woke brainwashing the kinds of houses folks want is shifting, so all those McMansions built of hardi-plank in the desert will not bode well (bad pun intended). The urban stack-n-pack style or the off-the-grid route seem like the ‘in’ places to be for the next generations. I don’t think the subdivision, suburban lifestyle I grew up with will remain, and I say, good riddance.

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    1. The demographics have shifted. Neighborhoods that used to be all white are now all latinos. Those houses that older folks would buy or take out a mortgage on for decades are now bought and owned by rental agencies. They rent the houses out to latinos, africans, other ethnic groups and allow 3 or 4 families in one house so the rent owed per each member is very small and very affordable.

      Also HUD housing policies apply so if a female gets pregnant she qualifies for two years of free housing then after that it goes based off her income,unless she has another child two years later and another two years later which most always do. So that’s at least 6 years of room and board expenses. Free rent for her family members, yet some places of strict policies that only the female and offspring can live a unit. They wait to arrive in the USA to get pregnant so their children are citizens. They also qualify for SNAP which includes free health care. We have to pay for health insurance, the office visits and prescription meds, but they do not! They can stay on these benefits for over a decade. Now that used to be okay for people in poverty, or to get someone back on their feet, but with the massive influx of new people one can see how the system is taken advangtage of.

      In the old days it was embarrassing to be on any form of welfare and pride was had by those that worked, sacrificed, payed every dime and earned their way thru life.

      That no longer applies!

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      1. In the old days there was no form of such welfare. Most countries still today have no form of such welfare. The ‘Poor house’ was a real place in the 1930s, a place where those with no where else to go could find a roof and food in exchange for work, they existed in most towns. The system has been a work of shit for a century plus. Atlas has shrugged.

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        1. Yes atlas has shrugged. To clarify my above statement was in the context of immigration and changing demographics. There are a percentage of white people obviously on the dole. However most of their relatives have been in the Country for a long time and at least paying into the tax system since 1930’s if that even matters, I think it does. Whereas now large numbers of people are migrating here and getting an increased amount of benefits for a long duration. Maybe your State/County is different, however one can simply see the manipulation and the replacement agendas at work. A touchy subject at that, yet worthy of a discussion since it’s an issue coming to an area near you if not already. It’s all good as long as the Federal agencies and tax roles keeps funding these State organizations that support their immigrant quotas. Going from a acceptable melting pot mix to a complete take over is a culture shock. Open the flood gates!

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          1. Don’t forget the uber-rich, for they are the largest recipients of welfare in this country. The bailouts of 2008 and 2020 are prime examples – not to mention tax-funded subsidies, credits, refunds, and handsome federal, state, and local contracts – meanwhile, they pay next to nothing in taxes. Otherwise, how else can one explain why powerful “special interests” supported FDR’s “New Deal” programs, which gave birth to the modern welfare state in America? Or their support for initiatives such as the federal income tax or the Federal Reserve, which were also sold as “progressive” to the American sheeple?

            But their media & political lackeys would rather have us focus our gaze on “illegals” and minorities that are on public welfare. They have to keep their divide-&-conquer gig going, after all, because that hinders potential opposition and maintains their ability to profit immensely from the system which they created. “To rob a bank, you must own one”, as the saying goes.

            The influx of immigrants into this country – primarily from Central and South America – is also no accident. Apparently, they realized that the local population is declining due to an increase of elderly and disabled people as well as environmental carcinogens (vaccines, chemicals, drugs, processed foodstuffs, etc.) diminishing human reproduction and therefore birthrates, so they are opening the prison gates to allow fresh meat to pour into their plantation so they can tax, price-gouge, and work-to-the-bone more malleable slaves for fun and profit.

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            1. HA! Well said! I can’t help it, the medicine goes down easier with a good dose snark for me.

              It is truly amazing to me how well they sell their game, generation after generation, and like a carnival ride from hell, still so few get off it. How can this be? I’m eternally baffled. Is it all about the money? Is it fear? Those are the two excuses I most hear, and yet, that seems like a very incomplete answer.

              When I was living in the Czech Republic and heard the stories about how all their property was ‘collectivized’ and that the system was voted in—in other words, you couldn’t just blanket-blame the Soviets for that, even according to some of the Czechs themselves—I was floored. Their property was ‘legally’ stollen, and they were given the ‘right’ to rent it back from ‘the collective’. How absurd can you get? Then when they finally got the occupiers out, it was the occupiers who demanded reparations back for all the infrastructure they built while they were there! Imagine! I remember the old ladies, who I made a point of conversing with every chance I got, they would all say things like: “We had no idea what they were capable of!” But, we do! How could they not have known? And that was all back in my youth, when I sincerely thought we were the good guys. What a fucking charade. Please pardon my French. 😒

              And now the same thing is fixing to happen here, and everywhere, as if that whole shitshow didn’t happen just a few decades ago!

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              1. “It is truly amazing to me how well they sell their game, generation after generation, and like a carnival ride from hell, still so few get off it. How can this be? I’m eternally baffled. Is it all about the money? Is it fear?”

                I think George Carlin summed it best when he said that “nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care” after he made his famous “the game is rigged” comment. That was long before the current mess, but the message is just as poignant now.

                Plus, the masses are too docile and dissociated to realize what’s really going on around them, which explains why things continue as they are without any serious pushback. Most aren’t intelligent enough to connect the dots, nor are they focused on coming together and refusing to play their game (in this case, not paying taxes), which is what the ruling class & their minions count upon.

                [This may explain why we even have the internet available to us, something they also created or borrowed (ask DARPA), depending on who you consult. They calculated that most of us are too stupid to read between the lines and use the info given to our advantage – and so far, they’re right about that. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have this conversation.

                There’s a reason public education exists, after all: it serves to reinforce that complacency within the population. It’s designed to make people smart enough to do basic things like filing paperwork, but not perceptive enough to realize how they’re being royally screwed by the very people they’ve been conditioned to respect. Too many people still have yet to fully deprogram themselves from the indoctrination they received as youngsters in secondary education.

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          2. No, it’s not different, you are quite right and we do need some adult conversation about it. We’re in Texas, not near the border or anything, but I really feel for those who are dealing with it on a daily basis and not getting much help. What do you think about the age-old argument that they are filling the jobs Americans don’t want anyway? Or that Westerners in general are too spoiled and entitled to handle? It’s hard to trust the statics on anything these days, seems to me, which leaves me with anecdotal evidence mostly. It does seem like physical labor is ‘beneath’ most folks today—we can never find decent help when we’ve looked and I have some wealthy relations who say the same thing looking for domestic help. Have we been co-opted through our own success??

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  4. You guys will love this one. It’s from the H1N1 psyop:

    The “zombies”, of course, are the masses who fell for that project. The same zombies that fell for the Coronavirus psyop, and every other manufactured project in history.

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  5. If you have no intention to sell your house, Mark, it’s completely irrelevant whether the value of your home has gone down, right? No need to worry over that, I suppose.

    The genealogy part of Miles’ writings that you complain about is important – it gives an oversight of who’s been in charge and where the real power is. I’ve tried doing it myself and it can get very tedious, mental focus required for doing it demands great effort that is rarely rewarding. For instance, he went into Dickens knowing he’ll lose another writer he used to read and like…quite an off-putting task, a shot in one’s knee that gives no pleasure in doing it. But the list is getting bigger by each essay, a list that could have great impact on Phoeney’s reign in the future. Or at least I hope so.

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    1. Yes, I know the value of my home is not important if I do not intend to sell. I was talking about my visceral reaction, as was MM, and not something thought out. You’re being Captain Obvious.

      Speaking of genealogy, yes, it is obvious that people in entertainment must be juiced, or even manufactured, to succeed. I’ve tried doing that sort of work, and I am not good at it. My wife excels. For me it is tedious and unrewarding, and the resulting knowledge only has small payoff. For instance, I discovered that Woody Harrelson’s mother’s lineage is Oswald. I passed this on to MM years ago, and got a “how ’bout that”, but never any work on his own, even as the information is easily accessible.

      Conan O’Brian, who might too be juiced, talked about his initial accession to Late Night, and stepping in to Letterman’s cubicle to offer homage after Dave ascended to prime time, I guess. As he left he was approached by Tom Hanks in the hallway, who put his hands on either shoulder and looked through him and said “This does not happen.” From that I took that O’Brien, while not anointed, was being given a spot in television culture based on Lorne Michaels’ assessment that he was talented. Hanks, who is also talented but has had easy success and who is very well juiced, did not understand.

      As always, I could be wrong. Conan entered Harvard and worked hard on a history degree and exhibits a superficial but thorough knowledge of conventional history, could be just another Hanks.

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      1. Sorry if I offended you, I thought you were genuinely worried about the real estate market and wanted to say something positive.

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    2. “A shot in one’s knee that gives no pleasure in doing it” — I don’t buy that at all. I’ve read enough of MM to know he’s not a martyr, thank heavens. No matter what else he/they is/are, at least we can respect it for that.

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    3. “.. . It gives an oversight of who’s been in charge and where the real power is . . “. Does it, really? And what/who does that serve? I see nothing of value in the genealogy searches beyond infotainment. It also adds to disempowerment and disillusionment and mistrust of everyone with a common last name.

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      1. What is it that you don’t buy at all? The fact, that nobody likes to read pages full of genealogy text? Or that it gives no reward to the author? You’ve pulled some martyrdom into this little thought of mine which I would’ve never thought is possible. I was talking about a tedious work Miles does with genealogy, that’s hard to read and gives no pleasure in doing it since it’s time consuming and requires a lot of patience to research properly. It is just like that, if you’re still sceptical, try it out yourself. Or just re-read my initial comment. The same applies to your 2nd comment below.

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        1. We all do a lot of tedious work. I know the work he does is extremely tedious. I don’t buy that he gets no pleasure in doing it, because that would mean he’s either a martyr or an idiot, and I don’t think he is either of these.

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        2. Please don’t pester us with your obvious ignorance. You know nothing of genealogy. Nor, frankly, does Miles. His genealogies are spurious at best, if not absurd and ridiculous. He connects the dots at his pleasure, offers no references other than spooky ancestry websites and freakin’ Wikipedia (LOL, utterly preposterous really), and makes wild assumptions without any substance other than similarities in name and spelling. A real genealogist would laugh Miles out of the room. You would at least think, Minime, that he could at least reference Dabretts? And tell me, Minime, do you believe the Peerage in the Royal Library is scrubbed? I have actually read DaBretts Peerage cover to cover. A line on my paternal side can be directly traced to Northern English peers granted lands by the King himself in 1650. Am I rich? Am I famous? Am I a spook with the Alphabet agencies? Am I anything other than an average, well-educated American who works for a fucking living and is currently watching his savings evaporate because the real Peers, the Freemasons, have decided to steal everything they can get their hands on right now with the bullet-proof immunity of the world’s most ancient and accepted secret society? You claim I’m a Freemason screaming for attention? Really? Do me a favor, Minime, look up the Exxon-Mobile logo. Then come here and explain what the two XX mean to you. Hopefully you will see the light, and begin to understand who are masters truly are. Otherwise, cease with your baseless and ignorant ad-hominem accusations.

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          1. I’m not minime nor one of his sock puppets, but I will take a shot at the exxon question you pose.

            One or more of the following:
            * The Jesuits (“French Jesuit missionaries and settlers to the New World carried the Cross of Lorraine c. 1750–1810. “)
            * Some Women (the double X chromosome thing)
            * The estate of Charles de Gaulle (Flag of Free France)
            * The American Lung Association (Their logo knocked over 45 degrees, ’cause 33 degrees just didn’t look right)

            Lay some enlightenment on us profanes, DesMas.

            FWIW when I was kid at the time Standard Oil rebranded to Exxon I never cared for the change anyway.

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            1. I will take a stab at it (c/o Michael Tsarion) . . .

              Exxon (known in Europe as Esso), is named after a minister for Royalty. Note the term ON at the end of the word, and the “Double-Cross” of Grand Orient Freemasonry

              This symbol [Double Cross] was used by the so-called French “Underground,” and is seen on the Exxon oil corporation of America today. Exxon is known as”Esso” (from Essa) in England. An “Exxon” is, like a Page, an official of a royal court and acts as a messenger or spokesperson for royalty. The word Sion can also be spelled Xion (since Si inGreek is Xi). This is similar to Exxon.” — Michael Tsarion

              (source: https://www.truthcontrol.com/pictures/exxon-logo-symbolism)

              Freemason Double Cross symbol
              https://www.ebay.ca/itm/33rd-Degree-Inspector-General-Honorary-Lapel-Pin-33-1/350477835511

              “GRAND ORIENT FREEMASONRY UNMASKED” (1885)

              Click to access War%20of%20Anti-Christ%20with%20the%20Church%20and%20Christian%20Civilization%20(Msgr.%20Dillon).pdf

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            2. I have no sock puppets that I know of. Can’t remember you and me having any real beef about anything, but I’d win in a heartbeat if we did, Mich, verbally or physically whichever you choose.

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            3. Let me preface this comment by saying I do read your work at CTTF and you strike me as a reasonable and sensible man. I cannot ‘lay enlightenment’ on you, simply because the deeper I research the Ancient Orders, the darker and more secret seem their origins. However, one thing is almost certain: their symbols still occupy every common logo we see everyday in the world. I would be happy to agree with Miles Mathis and resign myself to the idea that ancient mariners from Phoenicia have been the bedrock of human civilization since time immemorial, and we the little people of the world are the worker bees. But my own personal research has led me elsewhere and has also raised serious questions in my mind of Mathis’ research. Which leads into another profound Freemasonic symbol of their order: the beehive. Take a little time and understand how the beehive functions through whatever scientific paper you find on it. Then extrapolate that idea into a secret fraternal order that has operated, by their own historical timeline, since around 20,000 B.C. Make your own decision and do not let me suggest anything. But know this, Freemason have their own calendar with its own origins. They do not live by the Roman Calendar, which our minds have been irreparably entrenched in for the better part of two millennia. So while the world lives on Roman Calendar time, the Ancient and Accepted Rite lives on their own. I believe the Freemasonic year right now is 24,093. I still can’t understand their math, so that is a guess. And let me reiterate what I’ve said here in the past: we are not talking about your friendly charitable Blue Lodge Masons. We are talking about the orders from which George Washington and Benjamin Franklin have come from. Miles Mathis makes the case that those men are from some ancient and mythical race of Phoenicians. I am in no way trying to discredit that theory. However, it strikes me strange that their unquestionable position as some of the most powerful Freemasons in history does not cross his mind, nor his research. That’s fine. To each their own. But it raises some skepticism ineluctably from my own personal research. As far as Minime, who offers verbal or physical violence as a rebuttal? Why am I here even saying any of this? Well, for all I’ve read and all I’ve researched, I want to give others another path to explore. It may lead nowhere, or back to Mathis’ Phoenician / English Peerage theory, but my feeling is that it runs deeper. Our world functions with the same precision as a beehive. Be well, brother.

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              1. Thank you for the thoughtful and informative response. I had shut my yap on this topic, because I had offended minime without intending to and ended up with his offering to bloody my nose for me.
                No question on my part in 2022 anyone could get the better of me mentally or physically since I landed in the crosshairs of the world’s greatest bio-weapon to date last winter. Whether it is spike proteins in the air, particles manifestly and willfully deposited by the mega ton in our heavens, or just spike in the punchbowl, it changed my life forever. Still while I have two neurons to fire, I will continue to fight evil in my own way and pursue truth wherever it leads.

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                1. PS according to the media and my own observation locally in recent years, bees are trending down these days, aren’t they? Hoist by their own petard they have consigned their own chosen metaphor for extinction. Could be an intrinsic lesson there…

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          2. I know enough about genealogy to understand that only very few families out of the entire human civilization have records of their ancestors going back hundreds of years and generations. That’s exceptional and far from common, a red flag per se.

            Yes, the self-imposed rulers aka the Tyrants are hiding their own inbreds with seemingly broken records of ancestry and by changing their names regularly, thinking they would be able to fool the rest of us who pay attention. But they’re failing at it big time, because their egos just can’t resist bragging. That will be their fall, eventually and definitely.

            Being a crybaby isn’t really ad hominem, it’s just a very accurate description of what you’re still doing here. Save your tears for some other venue, mate.

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  6. One must admit, they got humor. They’ve put this LH in a paper about a dick joke. For illustration, short clip on YT: rick and morty – werner herzog explains human culture

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  7. Phoenicians or not, one way or the other, everything ends in the old world theory. I’ve once stumbled on YT upon a TED talk video about some Hamitic hypothesis. That video was misleading of course but it mentioned some undeniable facts: there are ancient buildings and architecture in Africa (and everywhere else including NZ and Australia), which in no way could have been build by the so called native Africans. And they are from the time before the white colonists came to Africa. I’ve seen many old photos with German bridges from the 19-th century where you can see that the people at the time had no idea how to build such bridges and no technology to do this. The same applies for USA and the new world, which obviously wasn#t any new back then. I’m convinced electricity and machines existed long before the 19-th century and were used for a long time and this technology somehow got hidden in a Great Reset and then for some time people just adopted old world artifacts for their new world not knowing how to make them. We still don’t know how to make so called Roman cement, which gets harder in water and indestructible. Our so called Portland cement, which is the basis of all concrete, does not last for 100 years.

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    1. I agree with you, there’s something very fishy about our history and our tech and our geography. But from what I understand the suggestions you are making are a taboo topic on this site, right?

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      1. good point, when I write something like this the topic usually ends dead and a new topic appears. And I give you right too, that the genealogy analysis MM is doing is mostly a dead end since we know they all come from the families.

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    2. Every advanced and comfort technology that we have today has probably actually been around for tens of thousands of years.

      Why they’re hidden, and why they’re green-lighted to be trickled-out over the course of a century or two are fascinating questions.

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      1. The most fascinating questions! And why do some of us feel that possibility to have more weight than the stories we are currently sold? I don’t necessarily think they meter out the tech, but the opposite, they steal it first, find a way to control and monetize, then ‘give’ it back. But, that’s the chicken or the egg argument I guess.

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        1. Wouldn’t surprise me. The same way mainline musicians copy or borrow lyrics from others and incorporate them in ‘their’ songs. These people are some of the biggest cheap-steaks out there.

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          1. I think you can look at what’s missing from the discipline, or institution, or even myths and ponder why, who/what took it out and why? Look at the dictionaries from a century ago and compare them to what’s published today as one small example, and then apply that to music, as another example. The ‘dumbing down’ is so obvious in that historical context. The reference books were works of art, the dictionaries included etymology, symbology, pictures of all the machines and tools and coat of arms, architecture. Look at the crap that created now! We have devolved, there is simply no doubt about it.

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    3. Barb – do you have any links listing these buildings in the US? Maybe there are some near me I could check out.

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      1. I can suggest one I like. I know there are quite a few such channels and I cannot speak to the credibility of any of them and I don’t check their sources or anything, but I like this guy (Jon Levi) and his comments often have others checking different sites/buildings, etc.

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        1. Thanks. I watched about half, it’s intriguing. Do they do any about buildings or just these industrial structures? I’m in Birmingham incidentally if you hear of any near here.

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          1. I’ll keep a lookout for Birmingham, I’ll bet there’s something interesting there to check out. He does do buildings, I thought this one was really interesting, but a lot of his work is in his own backyard, so to speak, he’s off-grid in Utah, I believe.

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            1. it’s not just Jon Levi, there is Jarid Boosters, who has lots of interesting videos on YT, there are some German channels too, Kai Brenner for instance. I went through all of them and it seems it all started some 3 years ago. Suddenly YT was full of old world videos. They show pretty much the same, old pictures of old buildings and the theory they are older than being told. Also Facebook “suggests” lots of old pictures like from New York or from old bridges or from USA in general. I first thought it is because I looked them up on YT, but friends of mine told me, they get the same suggestions and they weren’t into it yet. I think our controllers now show us this stuff. It’s part of the great reset. As for me, I think old buildings are questionable since you can always say, given time and manpower it can be done just by chisels and hammers. But it does not apply for steel bridges. For this you need technology, machines, high quality steel. People from the 19-th century weren’t able to do it. They had horse power and wooden cars and no machines except for some basic steam engines and some electric light as we are told. IMO electricity and motors and machines were in use for a long time and got somehow hidden for a while and people had to discover them again.
              Check this out
              https://josefauer.com/hamburg-1894-neue-elbbruecke/
              or this

              They have in common, that the impressing entry towers had to be destroyed.

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              1. did you know that Dubai has no sewage system and all the shit has to be pumped out and driven away in the desert with trucks?

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                  1. if you build a city, especially one with lots of sky scrapers, you have to take care of your shit. Romans knew that. And their canals are still in use due to their Roman cement.

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              2. Yes, I noticed that too. The first I heard of it was from the Russian woman with the New Earth channel. Jon has also made videos about supposed past “resets” serving to normalize what’s going on. I’ll check out those other sites you mention. I like the ones from the World’s Fairs. Of course, photos have been manipulated since it was invented and journalism was never an honest profession, so who knows. All I can say with certainty is our modern buildings are ugly as shit and architecture used to be magnificent. That’s all I really need to know to see there is a problem.

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                1. I don’t see the old style buildings as beautiful. All the towers and decorations are unnecessary and hard to keep clean, no? Not to mention the complicated roofs. I consider an “ugly” block style house with easy to clean windows and a simple roof, proper isolated and to summarize it: with little maintenance costs, as the perfect house. But the time back then was different. And not only the buildings were unnecessary complicated, the writings too. Look at the old alphabet. That’s not beautiful, that’s horrible. Also the clothes. That must be the reason, why the controllers just destroyed the most of it, forced us to keep it simple in future and only left few of the old world buildings as a reminder. What’s happening now may be of similar kind. Like it or not, there are to many cars on the streets. We waste to much food just because we produce so much of it. We travel long distances just to get to a new hotel on a new beach. For the most of people the life can be made much easier without losing any options. It’s a difficult topic of course.

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                  1. Don’t forget the music, and the art, way too complicated, too. It’s so much better now. Oh, and of course, the food! You sound like someone who will really enjoy their simple cricket burgers. Bon ap!

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                    1. the thing with the music is this, that all we have from the time are some notes. The beautiful music we are familiar with is an interpretation of this notes played by modern musicians using modern instruments. Of course the notes document a perfect work of music design. People like Bach, Mozart or Beethoven wrote perfect music which influenced all the musicians which came after them. But in our days we also have lots of excellent music. Genesis’ “Firth of Fifth” comes to mind. There always will be lot of crap. In music as in food. Look for the best not for the worst. Back then they didn’t eat very healthy and had a small choice of what to eat. The rich as the poor. We have a wide choice of all possible food now thanks to globalization. Everybody can eat healthy which wasn’t the case back then. As far as we know. So, no, I don’t look back with nostalgia.

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                    2. The photos/drawings of the natatorium are gorgeous, but what a highly suspicious story, eh?! I wonder what other evidence there might be that it actually existed in more than just print?

                      As for the rich and poor alike not eating well before ‘globalization’, this is simply not the case. The menus of the wealthy were very elaborate and you can find the first cookbooks published and read accounts of the meals in old books, fiction and non-fiction alike. You can look at the regional foods that were not influenced by overseas trade in most places and they are quite sophisticated. The diets of the average folk have been studied by many and the traditional foods movement is all about trying to reclaim these healthful diets. Weston Price in his travels noted the high degree of health in so many ‘developing’ countries and made it very clear the real costs of the modern Western diet even a century ago. It should be very obvious to anyone who walks in any US city how unhealthy folks are, while from just my grandparents generation it was rare to see. I find it incredibly sad, nostalgia is hardly the right word for it, it’s awful and pitiable.

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  8. I mentioned the destruction of the Georgia Guidestones like more than a week ago Mark. Shortly after that happened. I’m wondering, why did they leave some of the stones standing unsupported until they then disappeared in the night. Probably somebody of the elite got them as souvenir, next to Mona Lisa and David maybe.

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