Bill Maher is not the smartest guy around, but I am not criticizing him for that. Neither am I of notable intelligence. At age 75 going on 76, every evening as the sun sets I am visited with memories of dumb things, goofs and arrogance-related mistakes I have made. Those who have experienced NDEs, or near-death experiences speak of a life review that goes on before being sent back here to Plato’s Caveville. In my case, there is no need for that. I’ve already done it.
Do you see what I see?
I do criticize Maher for his duplicity. Any one with a set of eyes can easily see that he once went by the name Pete Ham, and was part of an assembled rock group called “Badfinger”. If you remember that group, they come from a more tuneful era and did some pretty nice songs, but those songs were quite different when listened to played on a CD player or radio versus played live. They were surely overdubbed for the album, many suggesting McCartney’s presence, indeed a good singer. In my piece exposing Maher as being Ham, I show a live video of a Badfinger performance, with Ham/Maher singing. It’s painful.
Ham was retired by a fake death, and reemerged as Maher some years later, and has been on TV ever since. What he does takes some talent, but note, he does not write his own material. He merely reads it. So it is one of his writers guilty of this goof. But hey, it’s the American public, so who’s gonna know?
I recently listened to an hilarious exchange between Conan O’Brien and Amy Sedaris where Conan jokingly reminded her that Maher cannot even read, and Sedaris agreed, saying he buys a can of Crisco thinking that there’s a cherry pie inside.
Enough of that. He’s high profile, and reads jokes written by others, and often does not understand what he is reading. It’s hard to keep up. In this case, he commits two errors: One, he refers to CO2, carbon dioxide, as “carbon” (“C”), and two, does not know that CO, carbon monoxide, is a different and dangerous gas.
I forgive all except the singing. That was really distressing.
Piece of Mindful 
That almost has to be a deliberate fail, it’s so bad.. one of the few “science facts” they really drilled into us in school – I swear it was regurgitated in textbooks and lessons almost every year up the grades – was the cycle of oxygen and CO2 between plants and animals, and the whole magically balanced ecosystem.. in little pictograms etc. That’s almost gaslighting or something, because there have to be many many audience members, liberal or not, who are privately thinking “wait a minute, what?”
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Music related.. in this roundtable conversation, Silas gives some anecdotal background on his strange experience on the periphery of the music industry, and speculates about how it’s both directed and organic (a dynamic interplay.) Kind of a different take from McGowan and anything I’ve seen elsewhere – he has a concept of MKUltra 2.0, a sort of self-perpetuating mind control or culture creation, the inmates building their own asylum, etc – that I thought yall might be interested in, being so into music generally speaking –
https://odysee.com/@Silasspeaks:a/Operation-Mindfk:f
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So much to understand, so little time. I want to follow up on this comment, see where it takes us. This I know: Music is the tribal beat, and not just entertainment. It is sublime, and passes by any censors in our brains, and carries its message directly to the unconscious being. Not all music, of course. Some of it, like Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring and a lot of country western, is just noise designed to annoy. Music is the tribal beat, and far too important to be left to amateurs. The Beatles were given a wide array of music to sing, the song writers still unknown, as were those who wrote MJ’s Thriller. They then took it in non-melodic hard-banging directions, the message out of reach to parents, the kids controlled by the masters of sound. They reach us at a young age and create patterns in our brains that stick with us for life. For myself, I learned to avoid almost everything except classical, not that I didn’t enjoy it, but classical smooths without invading private spaces with subconscious without creepy messages.
Take the Beatles’ She’s Leaving Home, among many others … what’s the message there for young girls? So many ended up at Woodstock, filthy whores drugged up and useless blobs.
Weird take, maybe. But music is not what it appears, which is why Karen Carpenter had to go away. She was out of sync with the masters.
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Pete Ham was/is Very talented, that’s why it’s about as hard to believe he went willingly from a life making slide guitar sounds (here maybe with a wah pedal?) to his alleged life of politix as it is to believe that Jimi Hendrix went from his axe-smashing to being a Mr. West! You haven’t taken seriously enuff the pt Petra raises maybe, although her blatant credulity when faced with the Apollo hoax makes me question her credentials…. Ham wasn’t quite of Hendrix-level talent at his instrument but he was pretty darn good!:
See “Badfinger” Suitcase live-Yt
The others in his band were significantly lesser talents although Tommy has interesting variant on the by then-standard English harmony voice. It’s one thing for Sharon Tate to just became her sister….
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The Beatles’ music was apparently written by Theo Adorno in conjunction with the Tavistock Institute, per John Coleman’s book Conspirators’ Hierarchy.
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I’ve read that. Highly skeptical.
Sometime early on, shocking the world, Lennon and McCartney sold their song catalogue to Michael Jackson (actually from Northern Songs to Associate TV). So we are told. The ownership of the music probably did change hands, but it was not sold by L&M, nor purchased by MJ. We were told that John and Paul were young and naive, as if they were not surrounded by business moguls. The story did not wash.
My take on this, and probably not deep enough, was that the group that actually wrote the music wanted a payday. Ergo the fake story about the involvement of L&M, who did not write those songs, and in-studio only sang them, not playing instruments either.
More likely, and this is my take, the group that wrote the music up until that time demanded a payday, and possibly threatened to expose John and Paul as frauds. That’s a stretch, of course, as people do not talk out of school in that world, but the best I can come up with.
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I believe it’s not possible any longer to kill yourself with a modern car by carbon monoxide poisoning because the catalytic converters are so efficient, and engines combust very cleanly these days, with very little partially combusted bi-products like carbon monoxide.
So CO2 is a pollutant. Now I remember why i haven’t watched Maher in about 20 years.
Mark – what do you think happened to Otis Redding and Sam Cooke? Sam Cooke’s death is particularly “weird” and spooky. I love his music, I don’t know why he would be retired. My random theory is they joined the Spinners – there’s a live song I have of theirs where they sing Cooke and Redding’s voices live and say “if they were alive today this is what they would sound like”.
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Beg to differ … a friend and hiking buddy (and heavy drinker) killed himself by this means in 1998, long after the arrival of catalytic converters. A late- model Ford F150. Another of our pals found him the following day … garage door partially open, head sticking out. CO got him. He had a too-late change of heart. No one event fits all, that’s but a pretty good demonstration that you’re wrong here.
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Mark, i stand corrected except 25% of new cars are electric or electric hybrid, so can’t kill yourself with them – like my 2024 Honda CRV hybrid. It won’t even rev at idle if you floor it! And then it shuts off after a few minutes of idle. Unfortunately your friend was too much, too soon – a late 90s American truck – that’ll kill you even without CO.
Speaking of cars that’ll kill ya watch this. I miss Tom, these guys were a riot.
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Given your location, known history to you. A public radio show in Boston asked local mechanics to come to a call in show to answer viewer questions, and only Tom and Ray showed up. They had a spark about them, and ended up doing their show for 25 years … I still listen to repeats twice weekly. As Doug Berman said on Tommy’s death in 2012, he was a countercultural, and the two of them “diamonds in the rough.” Thanks for the link.
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Yes, and I consider them fellow paisans. I have mentioned before, but a while ago, that my mothers half is Italian, and came over to Boston/Cambridge, so they are compadres, came out of the same culture I grew up in going to my Italian relatives all the time. Italians have quite sense of humor, part of the old world immigrant culture. They give everyone a nickname, and are real jokers.
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Ah yes, Tom and Ray, the Mariachi brothers. Their diagnostics are legendary!
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OK, so CO is not CO2, however, the argument for carbon being a pollutant if you accept “CO can kill you in your car” means it’s a pollutant still stands. I don’t though because anything can be a pollutant in the right amount and circumstances and obviously CO2 is completely essential to life.
Pete Ham does look remarkably like Bill Maher in that one comparison, however, this is Bill Maher in 1982. Also, he was Welsh – very different accent.
I think it’s amazing how Harry Nilsson took Badfinger’s Without You and made it sound completely different becoming a massive hit. The two co-writers Pete Ham and Tom Evans both committed suicide (1975 and 1983). This is an interview with Tom Evans after Nilsson made it a hit saying how he thought little of the song at the time they made it.
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I get a lot of drive by’s and instant analysis on this facial stuff. Take note, however, when we fly abroad, we don’t have to show our tickets. We just stand before a camera which, using an algorithm, scans our faces and instantly connects us to our photo on record with the passport authorities. Every face is unique.
So understand, Pete Ham and Bill Maher do not just resemble one another, they are one and the same person. I’ve done tons of this, rock music used as a training ground to move people into news and punditry. Every aspect of opinion and news is under control, all “sides” of all “issues”, including the Moon. Every face on the screen controlled. If all cops and judges are Freemasons, why not news readers? Why not opinionators? Not all of them used to pretend to be someone else, but many, enough to catch my attention.
And, I’ve had enough people take a glance and then say yeah, there’s resemblance, but it’s probably a brother or cousin or coincidence. Instant experts. You have a sister, Petra. Are you lookalikes? Family groups like the Jackson’s or Osmunds are all siblings, and easily distinguished. So unless you’re willing to do the basic structural facial work, I urge you to just pass on by. My patience wears thin quickly with facial stuff.
[Plus, and note well, bone structure of the skull does not change even as we age. We are fully formed by early twenties. I’ve done plenty of young old comparisons, and the process works beautifully. The only skull that was distorted and therefore beyond comparison was Stephen Hawking, as ALS apparently does distort bone structure. He was replaced, easily seen to the naked eye, but not subject to facial evidence. (Kids cannot be compared to adults, by the way, except that we can see familial resemblance.)]
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The thing is though you can’t prove it Mark. I mean sure you can feel convinced of it yourself but I’m not sure why you would expect others to be convinced too?
Here is a photo of Bill Maher as a junior in high school and in the comments there’s a photo of him as a senior. The people commenting went to the same school.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/113068469499/posts/10157388871579500/
How many people do you think will accept that it’s all fabricated – that he didn’t go to Pascack Hills High School – that the school has made it up and all these people commenting have made it up and didn’t really know him there? It’s true I see so many comments made by people on social media who are clearly lying about claims they make about 9/11 but this is different.
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Where there is sufficient evidence the word “prove” is appropriate although of course one can be wrong in interpretation of evidence or in determining how much evidence is sufficient.
In the case of Bill Maher and Pete Ham I think it would certainly be easy to prove they weren’t the same person. Presumably the school that Bill Maher supposedly went to keeps all its year books and if he appeared in the year books I think that would be proof, don’t you, that they weren’t the same person. There are other documents one can obtain too of course.
It’s not so much worrying about what other people think of your work but for me I want to be able to present to people what I feel is sufficient to convince them, I don’t want it to be just my subjective feeling about it and if I don’t feel I have enough to convince others then I’d feel I don’t really have enough to even convince myself.
To my mind photo-matching is insufficient when there is evidence out there that seems to speak against their being the same person – sure, it could be all fabricated but that seems improbable to me and there’s no hint of it.
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Again, I do not use the word prove. Only “evidence.” Neither should you use that word. There can be “proofs” of self-contained mathematical theorems, but beyond that, it does not exist. Nothing is for sure in life except death.
The thing that first caught my eye with Ham/Maher was the boat-shaped smile. But that’s not enough. The key is that our skulls do not change as we age, and facial features cannot be moved around, even by surgery. So pupil distance will always be a constant, and that is the key. I based my evidence on that feature, and all the others lined up naturally.
I’ve tried other methods, looking for constants to use, such as the distance between tip of nose and top of ear for side views, but nothing works. Ears are widely used, as we are each unique in that regard. I’ve done some of that, and it is useful.
Before you criticize, walk a mile in my shoes. In other words, do the work yourself to show my ways to be unreliable.
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Couldn’t resist here, a proboscis comparison of Maher and Ham.
They both have prominent schnozzes, and as I have one too, I am not making fun . In this photo Ham’s chin is a little longer I think due to his mouth being open. Otherwise we have very good alignment.
I could not do much with the 1982 video of Maher on the Tonight Show – the video is of such low quality and his eyes are squinting to the point of being almost closed. Cannot work without eye pupils.
Regarding Ham and Evans committing suicide … I doubt it. There’s a meme around, promoted by McGowan, that rockers live hard and die young. Most of the deaths in McGowan’s book were fake, and I would bet these two are too. Further, I don’t buy the substance abuse … that is almost like predictive programming, so that when they fake their deaths, people will say “Yeah, saw THAT coming”. THAT sure worked with Joplin.
I know nothing about Evans. I wonder what became of him, if, as i suspect, his death was fake.
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As is 100% anticipated, of course, ChatGPT says No!, however, you still might find what it says interesting about matching regardless, Mark.
https://chatgpt.com/share/699bbfc1-afb8-800a-9d30-30dfd6d5cdd2
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OK, and this is written with sympathy and understanding of human frailty, which we all share. I like to point out that when we cup our hand to point a finger at someone else, three fingers are pointed back at us. That in mind, as you point me at Chat, look at your mirror, and see if there are any images of Moon landings behind you, over your shoulder!
There’s nothing new Chatwise for me, and as long as I’ve been doing this, I note that it is famous people like rock stars who most often fake their deaths and reappear. As I noted with McGowan’s Weird Scenes, there is less likelihood that a platoon in mortal combat would suffer the degree of casualties that the rockers of the 60s 70s did. Top that off with facial comparisons of the new media personalities, and at least you might be curious and courteous enough to say that something, someteeeeeeeg, is going on there.
Take a walk, not on the wild side, but on the Moon, as you consider your own frailty.
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Also note, Petra, on the time line, Ham died in 1975, and the Carson appearance by Maher was 1982. In that period of time, people forget about Badfinger and Ham, and Maher had seven years of training in being a comic. He’s not very funny, in my view, but if you read my piece I linked about his faking his death, I made up an exit interview where he and his manager are visited by a “spook”, or Intel person, explaining to Maher why his music career is over (he’d reached his highest water mark and wasn’t very good) and so will be faking his death, the means as of yet unknown. He’s told that in the future he will be a comedian. He says (in my piece, mind you, not in real life) “But I’m not funny!” and is assured that he’ll be surrounded by good writers.
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So I assume, Mark, you agree that all information relevant to an hypothesis must be explained. If not, you can ignore the following and let me know why you don’t think that’s the case.
Assuming you do agree, what are your explanations for the following:
The FB page I linked to above (and link to again here) which allegedly shows junior and senior year photos of Maher at Pascack Hills High School (grad 1974) and a number of comments from people who knew him there:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/113068469499/posts/10157388871579500/
This snippet from a podcast by Keith Olbermann where he describes a situation at Cornell University which both he and Bill Maher (grad 1978) allegedly attended where Keith and a friend had organised to do an interview with comedian, Robert Klein, after a performance at Cornell and Bill Maher insisted that as he himself was a stand-up comedian and published the Cornell humour magazine he should be the one to conduct the interview. (From 38m)
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Do you have any idea how long I’ve been doing this work? I’ve slowed down, of course, not because of opinions of others, but because the work is tedious and I’ve ventured down other avenues. Whenever time comes for comparisons, I put it off. Just yesterday I rabbit- holed Maher, working on his 1982 Tonight Show appearance (in reality, his rollout), and gave it up due to the blurry images and nearly closed eyes. Why? Someone will always trot out something, as you did, and based on mere non-rigorous glancing at facial characteristics, will tell me with authority, that I am wrong. I trust myself and my work and am honest … also, I never use the word “proof”.
With every person who fakes a death comes a new background. Everything can be faked, and the usual suspects (like Olberman) can be trotted out to vouch for the authenticity of the new persona. This goes up to the highest levels, with Obama never having attended Columbia, his juris doctorate nothing but wallpaper, photos altered to place him with nonexistent relatives.
And, as I’ve noted elsewhere, our skulls are not fully formed until late teens/early twenties. Nothing in youthful imagery is reliable, which I learned the hard way with Jon Benet Ramsey.
So Ham/Maher has two backgrounds, in the current version, a mother and sister who appeared in Religuous, both suspect and uptight and devoid of emotional connection. (Of course!) that is not convincing on its own. It’s a compilation effort, providing a body of evidence to be weighed. But the beating heart of the work is facial identification, as we are all unique. On my Mom’s side I have three brothers and 25 cousins, all related, none of us alike other than familial resemblance. That’s true of all of us. I get a drive-by now and then saying well it must be a cousin or sibling taking over for the original. Not a chance.
So I suggest you either do your details, or soften the blows. You’re not close yet to being credible in this area of inquiry.
[Just for shits and giggles, I m going to revisit Stu Sutcliffe/Andy Warhol in the coming days, another cornucopia of evidence and controversy with overtones of Intel deliberately trying to undermine real art, substituting Andy Warhol garbage in its stead. Fun awaits!]
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I agree with you, Mark, that anything can be faked, however, I don’t believe anything can be faked without detection and in psyops they always let us know with their Revelation of the Method. I must admit in the case of the moon landings the RoM with Dave McGowan is not really obvious although it’s certainly true that Wagging the Moondoggie contains not a word of truth against the moon landings while they really let us know – hilariously so! – with ‘ol Billy Kaysing and now with YouTuber, Signal before Silence, faker of ChatGPT.
So yes anything can be faked but generally we expect signs of fakery either obvious ones RoM-style or other signs.
I don’t accept that Bill Maher’s biography up to 1978 at Pascack Hills High School and then at Cornell University was faked, it just seems too authentic to me and as I don’t consider myself in a position to judge that photos of allegedly different people are really of the same person I’d have to accept your word for it and I’m not prepared to do that.
If you can show me signs of fakery in Bill Maher’s early biography I’m all ears but if you can’t then I’m afraid I don’t accept he’s the same person as Pete Ham.
This situation reminds me of the supposed non-parallel shadows on the moon that my sister tried to persuade me of. Not knowing anything about shadows I didn’t consider myself in a position to judge whether the shadows were parallel or not – nor did I consider my sister expert enough to persuade me. Then I found perfectly reasonable explanations with examples on earth where shadows appear non-parallel but aren’t because of perspective.
A case of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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You could have investigated further rather than falling back on “I’m no expert.” That’s another word, along with “prove”, that I do not use. I do not believe that experts exist except in rare circumstances. I’ve known but a few, and none who could tell me more about life than I’ve come upon on my own.
So which biography is true, that of Pete Ham, married twice, three children, inexplicable suicide, or Bill Maher? Or, something you’ve not considered, neither. The face tells the story. There’s only one.
I spent too much time trying to understand John Denver, knowing his name was Deutchendorf. But it wasn’t that either. I don’t know either his real name or background. I only know he was allowed fame and success because he possessed great talent, and so was assigned to a military family to be managed. Was he part of the peerage? Hard to know. As we’ve seen with the British royal families, talent is hard to come by in inbred situations. McGowan told us that all these rock stars had military families. He was lying. They had military managers.
And anyway, Maher is not so talented as Denver, so was chosen for fame for unknown reasons. Many could do what he does. Like so many, as MM points out and Tyrone might agree, he’s either gay or asexual. Ham was obviously at the limit of his musical ability, and back in those days they were “killing” rockers right and left. It only tells me that fame is a commodity handed out to selected people, only a very few worthy, and taken away at a whim. Sometimes famous people are shamed … Cosby, OJ, for instance, others. Don’t know why.
D-K me again and I’ll travel to Australia. just to slash your tires.
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Didn’t you or someone say a long time ago on your site, that shaming/exposure was a Freemason rite to advance their path to a higher position, ie 33 degree mason?
I also remember one guy elsewhere last century that he knew the moon was hollow when an astronaught dropped a spanner/wretch and the sound resonated like a bell.
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Yeah, that all rings a bell, and there’s enough empty space in my head that the bell resonates. With the shaming I’ve seen, there’s been no advancement in the ranks. I sincerely hope for OJ that he faked his death and is now happy somewhere after his ordeal.
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Come on Mark…some of us here are waiting with bated breath to see which logical fallacy comes up on Petra’s “365 logical fallacies” desk calendar that she can use today.
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I took a course on logic in my sophomore year in college. It was a standalone, nothing offered before of after. When we got to logical fallacies, the teacher advised us not to go off pointing fingers at everyone about it, and also that in real life they are well hidden and hard to spot.
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I didn’t D-K you, Mark, I D-K’d my sister on shadows.
I could have investigated further, however, I find “this person is really that person” type stuff not very convincing generally except where it’s really obvious such as the Challenger disaster and I’m not that bothered to pursue it unless it’s very clear to me. To my mind the lengths of fakery are too extreme for Maher to really be Ham and I’m not prepared to go further.
If you had evidence other than photo-matching I’d be interested but just photo-matching is not sufficient. As Ray says – going from a Welsh accent to a perfect American accent – all I can say is Wow!
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It’s OK to ignore facial stuff. I stumbled on it, after all. But if you ignore it you are overlooking powerful evidence that needs to be explained. All the other stuff can be manufactured, including bios. Dropping a Welsh accent? he had seven years of training!
… have you ever seen the photo of obama with his grandparents sitting on a bench in Central Park? I first noticed it because there was a floating hand. The photo is fake, the “grandparents” were sitting side by side, and then spooks separated them and placed Barack in the middle, which created the floating hand.
People take photographs at face (so to speak), which is why such sloppy work flies. But it leaves the question unanswered: Why did they fake that photo? Does not that line of inquiry lead you down a garden path?
And why, in a world where no two ordinary people have identical facial plates, do these two famous people align so well? Did you glance at my schnozz comparison?
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In this one Petra has some points. I looked up Pete Ham and he was supposedly a working class Welchman who had a long history in the British music scene. It seems quite a leap to go from that to American Jew Bill Maher. It would be like John Lennon turning into Bob Dylan.
Ham was born in 1947, and Maher looks like he was born around 1960 – i need to look it up.
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Peter Ham, while he indeed looks a lot like Bill Maher, enuff to make me wonder, wasn’t an easy-to-categorize type the way his mate Tommy was, that guy clearly has the look of an intense alki-mofo (eyes are very near each other), but did HE-Tommy-get killed? We’ll maybe never know, but in his case offing himself was believable, they had some contractual issues, or the band name was registered twice….
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I dispelled the notion that people get killed … we are dealing with a real world where people are connected to other people who would not be so easily fooled by a fake death as the distant and gullible public. And, we are not dealing with killers, generally. Even in lurid and death ridden events like the Murray Building, 911, JFK RFK MLK, Chappaquiddick, Jonestown, Waco, OJ, on and on, no one died. Karma must play a large role, along with a legal system frail and faulty, but littered with people who don’t look kindly upon murder. There are a few suspected murders in my experience, Kary Mullis comes to mind, as the fake pandemic was vitally important, but beyond that, fake fake fake.
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Mark I also read Pete Ham was backed up by Paul McCartney. So there’s a spooky element to his story for sure then. Its quite a drama with Badfinger.
When you check faces do you look at eye color?
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Never. Eye color is a variable, easily changed either in photos or by contacts.
Badfinger, formerly The Hollies, as I recall, was just another assembled group, like the Beatles themselves. As with most of the bands of that era, there was very little talent, and a Wrecking Crew at work on both sides of the Atlantic. You can see in the video I provided of Ham that he’s overly focused on his guitar playing, and has not mastered anything but chords. I think live concert fans, as they listened, were playing the albums in their heads.
When I say “very little” talent, I mean in a broad sense – all of these group members learned how to play their instruments, McCartney even having to switch to left-handed. The Beach Boys pulled if off, but barely, and only Brian Wilson did studio time beyond vocals. Ghosting and lip-syncing aside, they had to be able to pull off a stage performance, which is why the Beatles had to retire to the studio. They could not pull it off. They never played even one of their later album songs live.
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Badfinger were originally called The Iveys, the Hollies were a Manchester band. On the video link below, Jimmy Molland (from Liverpool) at the 1:08 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOnbeNAxdU&list=RD9tOnbeNAxdU&start_radio=1
has a resemblance of Paul McCartney or Mike.
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You’re right about the name Iveys. I found a photo of Molland looking right at the camera, left, and one of many of McCartney (Mike, or Macca). There are similarities, especially in the eyes. But McC has a bigger head in this comparison, because McC’s eyes are closer together. When you expand them to the same distance apart, the one with eyes closer together has to be blown up bigger. As a result, you get a distortion like this, a balloon head on the right. Side by side in room, the heads would be of similar size.
My conclusion, even though there are strong resemblances, the comparison based on pupil distance shows two separate people. Keep in mind that on Badfinger albums, it very much sounds like McCartney doing vocals. There’s a bit of musical incest going on.
In the video below, at 0:54 there’s a good frontal view of Molland. And note in this video, Ham is playing guitar, where in Come and Get It he is banging on the piano. I would suggest, due to better vocal quality on CAGI, that it is lip synced. Maybe both, though Ham clearly is not a polished signer in No Matter What, though sound quality overall on that video, a TV performance, is not good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR6LSnREyYU&t=10s
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It did not occur to me to do a facial comparison between Molland and the original Paul, maybe Badfinger giving him a musical outlet. More work to do!
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Well, I did the work, and the results are negative. The left or upper photo is original Paul, a 1985 photo (yes, he was still alive then!) alongside Joey Molland, The right or lower photo is Paul from 1959 photo, same. Do note how even after 26 years, Paul’s facial aspects have not changed, just some aging.
Conclusion, Original Paul McCartney and Joey Molland, two different people. Molland died just last year at age 77 in Minnesota, I read.
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Been around that track. What you will encounter on one of your laps is that no two faces are alike, these two are identical, ergo, these are the same men. Intel is in charge of history in more than just books … they also alter biographies to place people where they want them. My experience goes back years and is not for naught … I started out with Betty White, who was an exact replica of Jayne Mansfield … the time span did not work, which is what led us to the Bokanovsky process. They can and do make replica humans, even as these faces are easily distinguished, for example Pierce Brosnan and Charlie Sheen cannot be mistaken for one another. But they bear the exact same facial plate. That’s a different stream of discovery. But with each transition we found, from music to news or punditry, we found just one person (or twins, as with Joplin).
So yes, dates are difficult, it takes effort to parse, and even more so to unravel the twins, like Joplin, Buddy Holly, Anderson Cooper … if you want to pass on my work in a drive-by, as you have, fine. I’ll continue use the work even as I’ve grown lazy and blasé about it. I’ll never get over the excitement of stumbling on a crypt in Buenos Aires of Eva Peron, leading to discovery that not only was her death fake, but that she went on to produce Madonna Ciccone, the lightly talented heavily promoted diva. She did not die … she moved to Michigan, of all places, while her sister, Isabel Peron, now lives in Spain, now 95.
I’ve learned to take drive by’s as expected and in stride. It’s annoying, but understandable.
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In the official story, how does the greenhouse effect work – is it atmospheric CO2? That’s what I recall, because it was strangely counterintuitive that the byproduct of plants would be implicitly blamed, along with industrial byproducts.. but I may be all turned around. It’s rather confusing, the three C’s, and their chemical bonds to oxygen atoms completely changing carbon’s properties. I freely admit I need to go take a refresher course someplace (although I don’t think my schooling ever gave me much of a first course.) Ab the fakeologist doubts the whole periodic table and atomic bonds of molecules, if I understand his views correctly..
But if the story is that CO2 is responsible for the greenhouse effect, the no Petra, Maher doesn’t sort of have a point just because CO still contains carbon and is toxic. That would just be complete sophistry, muddling the two forms together for the sake of ridiculing his political opponent, and making his uninformed audience feel superior, flattering them unjustifiably..
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Edit “then no Petra”
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The greenhouse effect is a just a product of the infrared absorption spectrum of the substances/gases in the atmosphere. As I’ve mentioned before, water vapor is a more significant part of the greenhouse effect, since it strongly absorbs infrared light, which is essentially heat, and in absorbing the IR light it increases the temperature of the gases, or atmosphere. There is a massive flux of infrared light from the sun also, which, instead of being re-radiated into space is absorbed by the chemical bonds of these substances.
Ab sounds a little confused. Chemistry is one of the most predicable and repeatable of all sciences, especially the behavior pure compounds or elements. Gold has a certain density, melting point, as do all elements, with a periodicity that groups elements by their place in the periodic table, and which allow one to predict certain behaviors – like the noble metals such as gold, silver, platinum which are used in coins because they react very slowly with oxygen.
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@Timr
On climate malfeasance, fictional “greenhouse” effects, and other climate agenda misdemeanors, I recommend getting to know Joseph Postma’s work.
https://climateofsophistry.com/2025/11/21/introduction-to-the-climate-new-book/#comment-131795
https://climateofsophistry.com/2025/08/02/the-history-of-climate-sophistry/
https://climateofsophistry.com/2025/07/22/lobotomized-grok-ontological-mathematics-and-climate-diagrams/#comment-131830
And from one of the commenters on his blog:
https://www.rgkernodle.com/the-intellectual-fraud-of-global-temperature-a-crime-against-reason
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Thanks OM, sounds interesting, I’ll check it out –
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I browsed some of the greenhouse gas explanations, this one is pretty good. Has some oddball numbers – the greenhouse effect is 33 degrees Centigrade- really? – but otherwise mostly makes sense. Especially that they emphasize the total system is quite complex and impossible to model in a “linear” mechanistic way – meaning you can’t just add up contributions from water, clouds, C02, solar flux, and make an accurate prediction of temperature.
CO2 Versus Water
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Click and Clack are great fun, I used to listen when it was still broadcast in my area.. but for my money, the funniest terrestrial radio show ever broadcast was the Phil Hendrie Show. Impossible to explain in brief, or convey the genius of it, but his format was to pretend to be a regular talk show host, but he did voices of invented guests, characters he made up.. so it was improv comedy. The first time you heard it you couldn’t imagine it was real, as it got crazier and crazier through the show.. but there were always audience members and callers who would fall for it and call in, treating his “guests” like they were real people, albeit wrong-headed or lunatics.. it just reduced me to tears time and again. I guess Borat is a little bit of the same genre, though I haven’t seen much of that.. and I doubt it matches Hendrie and the radio format “theater of the mind.”
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There was another event this week- the death of Robert Duvall. Clearly great actor, long life, and a bit of an iconoclast in Hollywood as a conservative.
What shocked me while reading his biography is that his father was an Admiral. Continuing the bizzare connection between the military and entertainment. To me, this is very strange. I have known many military families, growing up near an Air Force base, and from the officers i knew it appears the military attracts the ambitious who have little imagination or creative ability and are looking to become high level corporate or business leaders in the military industrial complex. Not a family that produces offspring for Hollywood and popular music, ie. Jim Morrison. So it may arise from Military Intelligence, who probably sees the citizens as their #1 enemy needing to be controlled by propaganda, and agents like Jane Fonda. I can’t think of many other explanations for this.
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Thanks, Ray. I get the gist of that link, but I get lost in some of their details. I swear it’s them and not my over caffeinated state..
Anyway I wouldn’t hold Maher to that standard, that’s more than the mainstream story gives, I only find him ridiculous if he’s ridiculing someone for Wrongthink while being clueless about the narrative himself.
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Re Duvall
My local talk station played a national news package that said he was a direct descendant of Robert E. Lee..! And not only that, but when he went to some probably legendary acting school in NY, “on the GI bill”, he was part of a freshman class with (coincidentally!) a long list of other future big name stars. Man, they really give the game away with that, but nobody bats an eye. I mean what are the odds.. that all the future stars end up in the same class together. I guess the public thinks, “wow, must’ve been some teacher.. all those other aspiring actors just needed better coaching..” rather than GI bill must mean “G-man” or intelligence asset..
I have a friend who does small local film production though. He and some others got to do a short piece of some kind on Duvall and after the shoot he hung out with the three of them at his farmhouse kitchen table and talked sports, movies, etc. Really cool guy they said, of course they’re all huge fans and movie buffs so it was a bug day for them understandably, he is a legitimately highly rated actor.
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Thanks for that additional information, reinforces what I was thinking. Duvall did seem like a class act, highborn enough to have some noblesse oblige, if such a thing still exists.
And holy cow, you talk about giving the game away -this next article will blow your mind. You’d think it was a Miles Mathis article, but no, it’s from an article on famous New England decendants, and their royal kin. Including Marky Mark Wahlberg. And Robert Duvall of course. You don’t say.
New England Historic Genealogical Society
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I highly recommend reading the full article above, they also link Martin Scorsese and George Lucas to royal/noble families. What is surprising is this is mainstream research, no agenda except a “gee whiz” factor. And then at the end they drop the Douglas family of actors, and David Crosby, of the Van Rensselaer’s.
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I guess it is a bit of an open secret.. they claim rags to riches a lot, but for people who follow Hollywood closely, they know that there are lots of relations and family dynasties and connections. Just from mainstream fandom. I think –
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how do you read the info?are the granparents listed first.
William Howard Duvall & Mildred Virginia Hart; Abraham Lincoln Duvall & Laura Virginia Rhine; Andrew Jackson Duvall & Sarah Bohannon
Are it saying Duvall is related to abe lincoln and andrew jackson or did his great grandparents get named that?
That link and others on there are interesting, could spend weeks scanning thru it. Another link I clicked on is:
https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/
Shows there were plenty of Hitlers and other famous names coming to the USA before WW2. How accurate are these websites..who knows but it may give a different vibe of names involved with events.
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That’s really interesting. And, not surprising. I remember Carol (Creighton) Burnett talking to Dick (Alva) Cavett about how her education came to her in an envelope from an anonymous donor, enough $ to get her to NY and get her enrolled in one of the acting schools. Happens every day, of course. She was sitting with Lucille Ball during the interview. Alva (Thomas Alva Edison) appears linked, and Creighton, I don’t know, but it’s an odd middle name for a woman of ordinary means.
Which reminds me, in the “you’re kidding, right?” department, Meryl Streep can trace her ancestry back to William Pitt.
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Earlier this week, Mark was asking: why go the Moon, what was the Apollo project really about? I think our research this work has further supported the hypothesis that the government/military, in collaboration with the “families” have been busy creating a false history for everyone, like the projections on Platos cave wall, to entrap us all into not rebelling. Greg made an astute observation that there is zero chance of rebellion, which I believe is by design. Because ultimately it is a very small number that control most of our reality and finances: people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, front men for the men behind the curtain. And yet the most they suffer is getting attacked by cream pies like Gates did in Europe several years ago. Which brings us back to Duvall, and why do so many of the Hollywood leads and entertainers come from prominent families? For such a thing as entertainment? Well it turns out most people now get their history from Hollywood, from people like Duvall. So he can have an outsized role in the creation of history, which at this point is 99% fictional.
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Or if there was a “revolution” it would be a manufactured, stage managed one.. but maybe the reason for generations of false history and dysgenics, toxic food, etc, is because man a hundred or two hundred years ago was more feral and unruly.
Or maybe not, but it would explain the “need” by the wealthy ruling class for all the indoctrination and disinformation warfare.. that plus increasing their wealth/ power.
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