7th Day Objectivists

Dan Ariely is a behavioral economist and author of Predictably Irrational. He contends that we make decisions that allow us to think we have more control over our lives than we do. We are essentially irrational beings in the face of a complex and indecipherable world, but he argues that this is not necessarily a self-defeating trait (look at how many of us there are!).

He was recently interviewed by Skeptic Magazine for their official podcast, Skepticality. (See #149 – it’s about one hour long, and so not immediately gratifying). He was asked if he thought we would ever give up our comfortable beliefs, such as correlation being causality, the existence of miracles, or drawing large conclusions based on tiny evidence … no, he said. We will not. Irrationality offers great comfort.

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Have you ever encountered the Randian? I have – they haunt the blogs – one guy even calls himself “Ann Rand.” Ayn Rand’s book Atlas Shrugged fed right into our need for self-validation by providing a system of economics that is 1) cannot be tested, and 2) would always yield good outcomes if put into practice. Thus the Randian smugly asserts that s/he has a capsule of answers that, when dropped into Kool Aid, produces a hearty brew that cures the world. Like religion itself, Randianism is comprised of splinter groups and sects, and some like to keep their distance. But it is religious faith, or belief without evidence, and so requires huge doses of confirmation bias to sustain the think tanks and the legions of followers that are invested in it.

It’s an odd turn of language, but Rand’s “objectivism” provides no objective evidence of its value, and so sends its Heavens Gate throngs on futile missions in search of validating evidence. They can only return with empty buckets, and yet are so in need of a fruitful harvest that their mythology is their sustenance.

That’s me, and not Ariely, providing Ayn Rand in a nutshell.

Here’s a snippet from the Ariely interview:

Skepticality: The discussion of “meaning, as you said, either with a big or a little “m”, it shows [that] we put more effort into activities where we’re assured will have the most meaning or impact, because that’s part of what motivates us. But what about people who are motivated by things that are unknowable, trying to find proof of things that may never be proved? How do we get meaning from that?

Ariely: The people who do these tasks do find meaning in that, and you can think about religion on one hand, and economics on the other, in which there’s some things we just can’t prove. I recently had a debate with the guy who runs the Ayn Rand Institute [Yaron Brook], and one of the discussions was about regulations in the market. His statement was that of course you saw all these bank failings, but that it was not that there was not enough regulation, but that there was too much regulation. And he said that if you only avoided every possible regulation, if there was not a single regulation on the banks, then you would see how magnificently they would behave and operate.

And of course nobody can test that. We can’t have a reality in which banks have absolutely no regulation just to see if it really works. It’s an incredibly expensive experiment. But he finds meaning in chasing the ideology. The fact that it’s very hard to test only helps him maintain his ideology.

What we find in those cases is that … people who benefit from believing that the world works a certain way adopt those beliefs and hold them in a strong way. But they are self-serving beliefs. Because they are self-serving, they are even harder to overcome.

Like belief in miracles, ghosts, UFO’s and secret friends, Randians will never go away. (We can only hope that one is never again appointed head of the Federal Reserve.) The Millerites of the 19th century believed that Jesus Christ would return to the earth in 1843. He didn’t show, but Seventh Day Adventists are still with us … 168 years later. In fact, they are the twelfth largest religious body on the planet. That blind belief that they exhibit is either our doom or salvation, or both at once.

7 thoughts on “7th Day Objectivists

  1. I suspect the current existence of Objectivism depends on a certain amount of astroturfing. The Ayn Rand Institute itself states that it has purchased and given away over 1 million copies of Rand’s novels to high school students. This has probably resulted in artificially high sales figures for Rand’s novels which her fans have invoked to support her alleged “popularity” in the market:

    http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_ari

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  2. When I was in high school, I took part in a scholarship competition that required writing an essay about Anthem, sponsored by the Ayn Rand Institute. I did not win; I couldn’t even bring myself to write something had a chance of winning. But I know a lot of smart kids in who bought it hook, line, and sinker, because they are definitely trying to influence high school students and get them thinking positively about objectivism when they were quite young.

    The thing is, this basic philosophy has infiltrated mainstream political thinking. I had the misfortune of watching John Stossel’s ‘freeloaders’ program – deep down it’s objectivism – and the same thing is observable even in more progressive-leaning libertarians.

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  3. Without TARP, the discount window, and the Fed buying worthless U.S. treasuries, this all could have been put to bed. Instead, we’re reinvesting heavily into the next round of make-believe. And most people still think (believe) it matters which political party wins. Whatever blows your skirt up.

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    1. That’s it, Swede. You either stay on topic here or 1) I delete your comments, and 2) I ban your ass.

      I gotta tell you, it’s very annoying – those people at 4n20 take themselves sooooo seriously! If you can’t have the back and forth, the tests of wits, the insults and general degrading, why bother?

      And sometimes threads are so boring that taking them off-topic is a favor. That happens here more than I like to admit.

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      1. if you don’t believe in deleting comments, kram, then why did you delete my comment in that other boring thread where you once again expressed your fever dreams about your sociopath nemesis the kailey? are you really that threatened by what i said you couldn’t let it stand?

        your antics are more akin to a 12 year old girl than a grown man. grow up, kram. you’re too old for middle school.

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