Time to hunker down and hope

If Moon of Alabama is correct, and there is insight there, we are headed [yet another] into war. Some will say that Obama has capitulated. These are the ones who view American government as being formed by popular mandate. There are indeed struggling factions and they have names that we can use with a little assurance that they are accurate: Neocons, neoliberals, bankers, global corporations. But the interbreeding and interplay among them make it impossible to distinguish them in any meaningful fashion. There are competing factions. We probably would not recognize the names.

American news centers on Obama and pronouncements from the executive branch as an accurate description of the activities of power. That is nonsense, but reality is also very complex, and any in media who try to fathom it are discouraged, or never got to prominence anyway.

It’s hard to watch wanton destruction and slaughter. My inclination is to go into a cave and wait for it to end. I should probably man up and pay attention. There is always unfounded confidence going into war. Events are unpredictable. Should the United States and its underlings fail to prevail in this conflict, the world can breathe a sigh of relief. Each success only raises the possibility for a newer and bigger war.

24 thoughts on “Time to hunker down and hope”

      2. Over at Intelligent Discontent, Norma left the following brain dropping:

        We didn’t stand in the way, of the jewish holocaust, why hitler used all manner of killing….. sure we sent supplies to Britain but it wasn’t tell the japanese attacked us that we decided to act… and that S.O.B. will sell that saran to Hamas, and those nutcases will use it against Qatar, Jordan and Israel …..Yet you want to treat Assad with kid gloves just like we did Hitler in the beginning …. not to mention allowing Jordan, or Israel to be in harms way??

        I don’t think this is anything like the mistakes BUSH made in Iraq! it smacks more of WW2.

        I realize we are weary of war, but not doing anything hoping all those stockpiles of gas just go away, not to mention the millions of uprooted people is fucking crazy.

        We all signed treaties to stop poison gas like this after world war 2, we were supposed to be smarter about this.

        If not now it is a matter of when…. when Jordan is attacked, or Israel??

        So tell me, if you merely switch to Obama making mistakes and Bush doing things right, the usual “two” party nonsense, where do you two differ?

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        1. Commitment for one thing. Bush 1 pulled out to soon, could have been Rhino fever. Bush 2 at least had the stones to see it thru.

          Barry like Clinton is bombing from 20,000 feet, probably with congress’s non-approval.

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          1. What are you referring to? I have assumed from the beginning that the supposed attack was the work of the so-called opposition, though the White House would never be so clumsy as to allow the evidence to track back. My problem with Swede and Norma is that they both think that party politics is a determining factor in US foreign policy, and that and that those who hold elective office actually make decisions. It’s all nonsense. We haven’t had a change of leadership other than symbolic since 1963.

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            1. I was just referring to how mixed up and nonsensical duffys statement was even if just trying to reflect conventional wisdom, ie claiming Syria and Hamas are on the same side in this and comparing to ww2.

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  2. When were we not headed into war? Guns or butter. Pick one. We chose perpetual war. Every empire has repeated similar fatal errors and rotted from inside out until too weak to stand.
    Never stand under a big, old falling tree.

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  3. We use our guns to get the butter. (Of course you don’t get any butter unless you had your hand in the appropriations for the guns in the first place).

    I stand by my earlier prediction that “they” don’t have the stones to do much of anything. Its not like just bombing Syria in and of itself has that many consequences, Israel does it every couple of years. This is about laying the groundwork for a wider war with Iran and the elites are rightfully concerned of the consequences and aren’t going to go through with it at a wider level.

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    1. I give them credit for being smart and crazy at once, if the Cuban Missile Crisis is an example. They came very close to blowing us up, generals were urging JFK to launch first strike on the Soviets, the Joint Chiefs signed off on Northwoods, a false-flag attack on the US to justify bombing Cuba … Crazy mutherfuckers even then. And smart as hell. Why should I assume they are not still crazy after all these years?

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      1. Crazy but it’s about profits and therefore power ultimately. Region wide war in the middle east where we might actually lose and lose control is bad for both.

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        1. I should not exchange comments with you, as you’re a cement block. But this should be said: people don’t get lucky and kill a president one day. That only happens when security is compromised. They were every bit as good at protecting presidents in 1963 as now, but all of it evaporated that day. Normally they made sure all windows were closed, parade route was straight, local military was combing crowd, and president was surrounded by agents. SOP, but not that day.

          So JFK was killed in the open, and the crime was covered up, and no serious investigation was ever done. That’s power, man, real power, and why killing JFK was a coup d’état. That power did not evaporate. It is still there, every president knows it. That power superseded the executive that day. This is why clowns like Reagan, George W. Bush, and masqueraders like Obama and Clinton can hold that office. It’s all for show. Reagan was so dumb he thought he was really in charge. The others knew/know better.

          By the way, there’s evidence now that George H.W. Bush was in Dealey Plaza that day. Not kidding.

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          2. Untrue. Bush didn’t REMEMBER where he was when he heard that Kennedy was murdered……………..too funny. But then, why did he call the FBI from Dallas to suggest who the killer was? Nixon couldn’t remember either. What does that tell you? I still believe that Nixon was the first to open the floodgates for the real criminal/Bush element to come into our government where they have remained since. And it was all done “legally”. That is the remarkable thing about it. They only had to whack JFK and a few others who were attempting to spill the beans. That is the way to do a bloodless coup. They learned from their failed coup attempt against Roosevelt. That was simply too heavy handed and blunt. Plus ol’ Smedley Butler betrayed them.

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          3. Interesting analysis, but I was very interested in Oliver Stone’s Showtime series where he outlined basically a mini-coup d’état when Henry Wallace was replaced by Truman on the Democratic ticket. Rumania Truman (I hate you IPad, but you do make funny jokes now and then) was deeply compromised, up to his ears in graft in Missouri, and so could be manipulated. So he was the titular executive when the bombs were dropped, when the CIA and NSA were founded. From there it was a natural progression. Ike was a weak president, and Nixon (not even his choice for VP) put together “Executive Team 40” or something like that, a group of elite assassins that murdered people around the world. The plot that was to murder Castro was merely turned inward and JFK was offed. You’d recognize the Team 40 names as players in JFK.

            In other words, Truman let Pandora out of the box. All presidents after JFK come essentially from the same stock of characters, compromised before they take office. Nixon was both smart and rebellious, but could not be murdered due to the presence of Agnew, an unknown quantity. Ergo, Watergate.

            I love history.

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    1. I think it more likely that NSA has the goods on all of them. They might just be pretending to be watching all of us, but with Congress and journalists, it’s real. AIPAC can be undone in a day – the money goes to Israel, and not from.

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