The Joe Rogan Experience #2397: Richard Lindzen and William Happer
Most times when I stop over to listen to Joe Rogan, whom I like, he’s interviewing someone I’ve never heard of. That’s fine, except that each interview is two hours long. How he gets away with challenging short attention spans like mine as he does … it is a tribute to his wide range of experience and ability to keep an interview going. Not everyone can do what he does, and hardly anyone for two hours plus.
This is a Spotify link, so I cannot show it here, but his episode #2397 is with Richard Lindzen and William Happer, two scientists who find much fault with the Climate Alarmist movement and its suspiciously non-falsifiable assertions. The interview is over two hours, so unless you’re like me, retired, you probably don’t have time. Maybe you don’t have the inclination. Again, I cannot recommend these two or Rogan or suggest to you what you should be doing with your time. I just provide the link.
Here’s a couple of quick takes from the interview:
- Lindzen asks Rogan if he knew anything about the Climategate emails, and Rogan had not heard of them. That speaks volumes to the power of media to spotlight what it wants lit up and to drown any baby in the bathwater. Climategate was a massive scandal, so big that when it broke it derailed the planned 2009 Copenhagen Climate Summit. It would take years of damage control, fake hearings and such, to completely exonerate the guilty parties, and even longer to erase it from memory. But it’s all done now. If you are reading this and are not familiar with Climategate, it’s understandable. I had to go two pages deep into Yandex, the Russian search engine, to find anything that did not whitewash it. (CNN now calls it a “hacking scandal.”) I didn’t even try Google, as I know better, that its results are, like AI itself, skewed. This link is to a Ross McKitrick paper that exposes Climategate. Maybe Rogan will see this post and read the paper. It was big, a massive scandal that caught scores of climate “scientists” with pants down, but damned if they didn’t effectively cover it up!
- Al Gore does not fare well in this interview, from his stupid 2006 movie to his years at Harvard. If you read the Wikipedia page on Gore, you will find that he was a poor student there, unmotivated, it appears. Then, says Wiki, “In his senior year, he took a class with oceanographer and global warming theorist Roger Revelle, who sparked Gore’s interest in global warming and other environmental issues.” That supposedly set him on his course of action, his career as a professional environmentalist. But there’s a problem here, not mentioned by Wiki: Says Bill Happer in the interview, he worked at Harvard at the time, and knew for a fact that Gore got a D- in the Revelle course. Gore, as I see him, is a public personality, an excellent actor who is protected from criticism and has memorized his lines. He’s not without diligence … he just lacks real knowledge.
I have other reasons for disliking Gore. I was an active Democrat for a stretch in the 1990s, mea culpa, and found that Gore had that certain something, sex appeal. Women liked him. Here’s his picture from the Cover of the Rolling Stone, November 9, 2000:

I’ve enlarged this image, and excuse use of that term for this photo in particular, as I find that with Gore’s career, just as with this photo, he is credited with attributes he does not possess, in this case, ahem … certain Photoshopped elements within the photo. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, just remember what I wrote above, “… Gore had that certain something, sex appeal. Women liked him.” Fill in the rest for yourself.
lol. I’ve been subliminally aware for over 40 years. Mine hangs left, but it’s hard to tell. Unless you get up real close.😬
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Mark, if you haven’t seen Spinal Tap they have two references to this particular phenomenon: 1. The Derek Smalls at airport security – I won’t give away what happens, and 2. David St. Hubbins describing why Spinal Tap is not as popular with teenage girls vs. teenage boys, because they have “armadillos in their trousers”.
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I have not seen Spinal Tap.
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Rogan appeared outta nowhere doing stand up then becoming a multimillionare vid/podcaster, absolutely juiced! Guess he is the Larry King of our time. He has some entertaining interviews. Your local library should have a copy of Spinal Tap the original 1984 version, and the new Spinal Tap movie is out in theaters now. What took them soo long to make a sequel and why only a few appearances since…. from what i’ve read in various interviews, another company owned the publishing, licensing, and had all the say with what the band members could do, yet apparently they did sing and play the instruments.
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I operate on the assumption that anyone who attains widespread fame was given that and has not earned it. So, no, I like Rogan, but I don’t trust him
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I haven’t listened to much from him, but he seems to have paid his dues, and whatever promotion he gets has some genuine appeal for many people.. works hard at it, pumps out all those long interviews consistently. I mainly knew him from “Fear Factor,” back when I had TV access and that sort of show could draw you in as a guilty pleasure/ morbid fascination with tabloid style tactics..
I saw Spinal Tap as a young teen with some older friends who had already seen it, that secondhand kind of viewing almost always sours me on movies as they’re so pre-stoked by everything, it gets annoying. You can never like it as much as they do, and the style of humor was new to me, so a learning curve.
But I later loved, loved some of the other Christopher Guest (same director) mockumentaries.. they’re all very funny, could rewatch any of them.
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Also if you want to see an early Chris Guest check out the final scene in Deathwish – he’s the arresting officer! Death Wish is a hoot, especially with Jeff Goldblum as a rapist/murderer – not terribly believable.
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That does sound fun, maybe if I see it at the library.. I watched one of those, not bad and I like the look of 70s films.
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I think you can read it all for free, not sure. I pay because I like him. He writes a lot about others in the field, which like Climate Science is crawling with pseudo, bad science and fraud. The field of nutrition is fraught with it. The latest fad, if it is that, is Ozempic and the like, drugs that achieve the same ends as ketogenic, but without the need to watch what you eat. The drugs curb the appetite, book is out on long-term effects. At $15,000 an annually you can bet the science and studies will be bogus.
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I found something very strange online – possible “Mandela effect”. Supposedly Spinal Tap did make a sequel in 1992- and I had never heard of it. Indeed in the comments someone else suggests they never heard of it. I have never heard of it until now. Anyhow very strange history with that film and crew, I remember they supposedly got no royalties from Spinal Tap, or something like that, and there was a big lawsuit.
That is very hard to believe, as Guest is a Lord, and McKean has a very auspicious past, as noted here: He is the son of Gilbert S. McKean, one of the founders of Decca Records
The Return of Spinal Tap (1992) – rarefilmm | The Cave of Forgotten Films
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FYI Guest is juiced, and hard. But obviously very talented. I remember years ago when I heard he was a British Lord, i was like WTF? I thought this guy was an American actor.
Christopher Guest – Wikipedia
Guest holds a hereditary British peerage as the 5th Baron Haden-Guest.
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I wonder what privileges, benefits do these peerage title holders get? Just being born into a wealthy family, with doors open into any field, advantages over the commoner class, and of course the huge family inheritances? I guess all of the USA Presidents fall into this category. I read where the Baron title is an earned title and holders are not related to the nobility. I can only imagine the number of royal bastard children and how they have no claim to any title, yet I assume most are paid off. I’ll have to read up on the British Monarchy, Ireland and Scotland too and try to get a more than grade school text book grasp of it.
From his wiki, Mr. Guest is married to Jamie Lee Curtis(Halloween fame). He does fall under the usual Mathis expose, and his family crest shows the phoenix. Spinal Tap is a funny movie, especially for those that participated in the music biz at any level. There’s an album/Cd too, which displays the music chops are decent and they lyrics are somewhat inappropriate for even the casual rock n roll observer. Apparently there was a sequel in the 90’s, and the rights lawsuit was settled in 2020, hence just recently the new movie. I guess it’s become a cult classice, but watching gives me the feeling of a tv sitcom or low budget flick rather than a film to be over hyped up decades later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Spinal_Tap
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Good points Greg, but I think if you want to reduce all the classic comedies of the 70s and 80s – thinking Caddyshack, Airplane, Princess Bride, Animal House – they are all technically low budget flicks with a lot of cheap sitcom style humor. But is high brow humor even possible? It sounds like a something stuffy and stale. So what film do you think deserves the hype then?
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I guess it just hit my screen differently. Caddyshack, Animal House, Blues Brothers, Stripes came across as more cinematic and I think had way bigger budgets, than Spinal Tap.
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In fact I can’t think of a single decent comedy that is a high budget film. Comedy, like education, is best served up cheap. I remember years ago when my boss told me the best performing school districts in Vermont, where he lived, had the lowest budgets. Because the extra money poured into modern education is pure waste, kids need the three Rs plus critical thinking skills, which can be taught cheap, and would end up producing smarter kids, which is obviously not the intention. But I digress.
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