María Eva Duarte de Perón, popularly known as Evita, was an early rock star of sorts, the Princess Diana of her time, the late 1940s-early 50s. She was world famous. She was (1946-forward) the First Lady of Argentina by way of her 1945 marriage to Juan Perón, who was elected president in 1946. Evita is said to have died on July 26, 1952.
This post is a bit of a rehash of my work surrounding Evita. I am quite certain her 1952 death was fake. I posted as much on my blog, PieceofMindful, and walked right in on the greatest shock of my life thereafter. How’s that for a tease?
My wife and I were vacationing in South America in 2018, spending the last few days in Buenos Aires. It was there that we visited a cemetery that consisted of crypts of wealthy and famous people, among them Eva Perón. By that time I was on the lookout for fake deaths, and noted that while Eva’s crypt said she died at age 32, that it was really at age 33. I am constantly on the lookout for what I call “spook markers”, and the number 33 is one of them. For instance, the Covid (scam)demic was declared on March 11, 2020, 3/11 a somewhat disguised ’33’. John F. Kennedy was supposedly assassinated on November 22, 1963, 11 and 22 again a disguised 33.
33 is not the only number used in in the spook business, but I won’t go deeper other than to say that Freemasonry is involved, as I am told that it is the highest level attainable in the Scottish rite of that spooky business. I see its use as a mere signal, that is, any Mason will immediately know that an event is faked if it is marked by a 33. These must be superstitious people, but I am not.
Back to Evita, all I could figure out in 2018 was that her corpse was obviously made of clay, and coupling that with her age, 33, told me fake, fake, fake. Some time later a commenter on my blog, Richard Juckes, filled in the rest of the story for me. Evita, aka Madonna Fortin, after her fake death had married and moved to the United States, specifically to Bay City, Michigan. There she raised a family, Anthony and Martin, Paula, Madonna, Christopher, and Melanie … Ciccone.
If you are sharp on the uptake, you will notice the third child, Madonna Ciccone, became the pop star known simply as Madonna. Suddenly, things began falling in place. In 1996 Alan Parker and Oliver Stone wrote the movie Evita, based on the Broadway play and about Madonna’s real-life mom, Evita. Madonna went into hyperdrive in her effort to gain the lead role in the film, writing a six-page letter to the director Alan Parker begging him to choose her.
“This is the role I was born to play. I put everything of me into this because it was much more than a role in a movie. It was exhilarating and intimidating at the same time … And I am prouder of Evita than anything else I have done.”
I saw the movie, and enjoyed it, as the Andrew Lloyd Weber/Tim Rice Broadway show featured some wonderful music. Madonna performed adequately, but even I knew there were better people with better chops to play that role. Madonna got the part because the movie (inside secret) was about her mother.
Richard Juckes only came by my blog that one time, to drop that one bombshell. I’ve not heard from him since. How he knew of Evita’s famous daughter, I’ve no idea.
While doing photographic work on Madonna Fortin Ciccone (I will link to all my work on this fascinating subject below), I came across a photo of her with her sister. Could it be? Could it be? The woman sitting next to her was none other than Isabel Perón, who served as president of Argentina from 1974 to 76, having inherited the office from her husband Juan, also said to have been married to Evita.
So Argentina, at least at that time (probably now as well) is ruled by wealthy families, some of whom step in to serve as leaders. My work stopped there, and I am grateful to this day to Mr. Juckes. Below is a summarizing post I wrote in 2023, quite long, but to me, gripping. (I am of the opinion that Madonna Fortin Ciccone, aka María Eva Duarte de Perón, aka Evita, died in 2010. At that time Madonna, her daughter, came out with a video where she openly mourned her at her gravesite.)
Isabel Peron, aka Maria Estela Martinez Cartas, currently lives in Spain and is now 93 years of age.
Here is the post from 2023, Tales from the Crypt , summarizing all of my work from the discovery of Evita’s fake death and the Juckes encounter.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” Hamlet (1.5.167-8)
Piece of Mindful 
Not only did Evita supposedly “die” at age 33, but Madonna’s Mother is said to have been born in 1933! Just a coincidence.
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Madonna’s mother actually “died” on December 1, 1963, more than a week after JFK’s fake murder in Dallas. She also apparently didn’t look like Eva Perón at all if the photos at Find a Grave show the right woman. So if the lady below was Madonna’s real mother, that discounts Eva, though they could be cousins.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7019657/madonna_louise-ciccone
She also appears in SSDI and NUMIDENT, but as we’ve discussed before with Columbine, such records are not set in stone, so they could’ve added those later to provide alibis for her death being real in the event someone digs into her death records for clues or confirmation. Readers can decide for themselves whether such data is anything to go by.
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I did enough facial work in 2018 to satisfy me that Evita and Madonna Fortin are one and the same. A brief drive-by on your part does not get it done. Madonna being cast in the movie Evita sealed the deal for me, as she did not have the chops for such a role, and had to be taught to sing and develop an upper chest register to get the part. Why go to that trouble when so many other better singers were available? Before then she was but a light voice singer with a huge PR department behind her. To this day, she has no vibrato.
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Having looked at their pictures again, I still don’t see any strong resemblance between the two, so I’m not fully sold on them being one and the same.
Then again, if they were the same person, she could’ve easily altered her face and changed her hair color to become Madonna Fortin. Nothing of the sort is impossible with these people, and it certainly wasn’t back in the ’50s. By then, they made advances with plastic surgery and hair dyes/wigs were already around in abundance. Prosthetics were also a thing.
Another possibility is Eva was the pop star Madonna’s real mother, and this Fortin lady was merely the fake mother assigned to look after her briefly. The wealthy often have other people look after their offspring, so it’s possible that’s what happened here.
Ultimately, the only way to prove/disprove your theory is if we have clear, reliable identifiers to analyze – such as ear pics from both women. Sadly, from the photos I’ve seen of Madonna Fortin, hers are covered up in all of them, whereas Eva Perón’s aren’t in her photos. I don’t it’s a coincidence why that’s the case.
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My theories are never proven or disproven, as they fall outside the pale of normal citizens, who immediately discount them, as you have done. I don’t know if you looked at the face split of Eva and Madonna, or just placed them side-by-side, but face splits tell a real story. SxS does not.
As always, I have to be content to research and write about my discoveries, and endure the casual dismissals. OK by me. I believe in me.
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I have seen the face splits. Even though they haven’t totally convinced me that they were the same person, they did share some cardinal similarities. The positions of the eyes, noses, and mouths all appeared to match in some of the photos, which are hard to discount.
IMO, what we’re probably looking at were a bunch of cousins sharing their offspring with each other. This is solidified by the fact that both Eva and Madonna, Sr. had French ancestry, so they’re likely related through those noble lines from France.
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I have between Mom and Dad maybe 50 cousins, 28 on Mom’s side alone. Although recognizable as being related (as bro and sis) (as with me and my three brothers), none of us remotely resembles one another to the degree that features line up in a face split. Bringing in cousins is highly unlikely to lead to lookalikes.
So when I see Evita’s and Madonna Fortin Ciccone’s faces line up as they did, given all the other stuff that went on (both her and a sister/cousin “married” to Juan Peron, each serving a high Argentine government position (First Lady and President) at least one (probably two) fake deaths), ease of access to fame for her daughter on less than stellar talent, the daughter being given the lead role in Evita and then having to take singing lessons!), I am seeing a whole room full of unlikely events. That Evita and Madonna are a facial match then becomes almost automatic. Of course they are the same person!
I’ve been doing faces for almost a decade now, and find them most useful in showing that two people are not the same person. That happens far more than finding they are. My work on the McCartney twins, probably identical, illustrates that point, as even they do not line up well at all.
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That, or they were very close cousins or hidden siblings. But to each their own, I guess.
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¡Ay, caramba!
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So she dies in 1952 of cervical cancer (age 33) and again of breast cancer at age 30. Eva Peron was born, they say, in 1919, Fortin in 1933 (note the 33) an age discrepancy of 14 years, not hard to overcome. Just as she disappeared from Argentina, she disappeared from view in the U.S. Isabel Peron lives to this day in Spain, and Evita’s Rainbow Tour went there, possibly looking for a new location to live after her coming fake death. (It is said that Evita’s corpse was kept in the kitchen of Juan and Isabel Peron, sitting up.) Part of what I learned about Madonna, the singer, was that she speaks three languages, including Spanish. I doubt she would have been so well educated in Bay City High, but wonder if she was educated in Spain. I traced the Madonna Fortin lineage back to the 1400s. These royal bloodlines go way back.
I think I concluded in 2018 that Madonna Fortin gave birth to two children, Madonna and Christopher, and that the rest of that brood might have belonged to her sister, Isabel Peron. It is not unusual in royal bloodlines for kids to be raised by relatives, as in Robert Kennedy raising 11 brats, some possibly belonging to older brother Joe, some to older sister Kathleen, both faked deaths.
I don’t know. It is confusing. But this I know – I did the facial work on Madonna Fortin/Eva Peron, and they lined up. Maybe the life of the everyday housewife did not work for her, being to the manor born.
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I wasn’t hip to the fake death jive when Jerry Garcia “died” on 8/9/95- (Nixon, Manson dates for the 8/9)- but when his extensive collection of underground comics went up for auction a few years ago, that’s when I knew he had finally croaked for real. No collector I know is going to give up his most prized possessions until he’s taking a dirt nap.
With rubber mask tech being what it is today, Madonna is never going to retire her persona. I imagine she wants to die on stage, the final public outrage she can muster.
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she needs to get up to speed on the rubber masks bc right now people are calling her the worst aging 80s pop star.. I can’t find the fb photo I saw, but she has strangely missing jaws.. just cheeks and a chin.
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heres one from 08, age 50..
not to go all “Mr. E” but those are dude arms.. or else she’s got very unusual genetics. One thing you learn studying artistic anatomy, female arms, when hanging at the side, bend outward at the elbow.. to conform to the hourglass shape of wider hips etc. Those arms look like they could chuck a spear or something.
and she has about as much “hourglass” to her shape as a guy.. but I’ll admit some thin women also don’t have very wide hips so that’s ambiguous. The long arms, large hands and inward bend though.. 🧐🤔
ps. Yesterday the moon was out at 10am and the lighting wasn’t “correct” for the position of the sun, for the standard model we’re given. I’ve seen this before but just noticed it again. Unless anyone has a good explanation, that’s probably my strongest personal evidence for holding the official model of the solar system as likely false.
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She had a lot of Taylor Swift-type PR going for her, but she aged out. I never thought much of her singing, though she underwent intense training for Evita the movie to get her to use her upper register.
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She looks emaciated above, as if fighting the passage of time by too much dieting, almost anorexic.
She was on Letterman. I want to say “Spoiled brat” but that does not quite capture her behavior. It is more like “lacking normal boundaries”. She has no grace.
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Yes, kind of a spoiled brat and a one trick pony, constantly trying to provoke and get a rise out of people. She goes back and forth between giggly little girl and trying to feign some sort of unapproachable mystique, delivering failed barbs attempts at witty banter.
But.. not entirely unsympathetic imo.. it’s the old thing about, What sickness drives an actor/ entertainer to seek all this attention, rather than growing out of it in childhood. Some desperate inner void that can’t be filled. And if a princess, but lacking real wit and grace as you say, then you play the cards in your hand.. massive promotion, willingness to provoke and shock, etc.
Letterman handled it well enough I guess, though he’s doing just another TV segment, his schtick.. while M, childlike, seems to want to have some genuine interaction.. she seems to have a genuine affection for him, that keeps being thwarted by her misguided attempt at banter, in which she can’t keep up with him. And naive attempt to step outside the constraints of the boob tube, to just hang with Dave for a few minutes.. she wants to tear up the bits she’s been given by producers, not play along with the content machine that (rightly..!) doesn’t trust her to have anything worth talking about or saying, unaided.. but, Letterman resists this the whole way and in a subtle way it’s kind of rude, despite that superficially he plays the pro, and the bemused but wronged party.. could he have figuratively torn up the schtick and tried to enter into the spirit of what she was after, rather than fighting her the whole way? But I think Dave is too much of a “normalopath,” as Michael Savage used to call Limbaugh. Savage averred that, there’s nothing wrong with that, there’s a place for it.. but it was midday radio in his view, not late night madcap rants like Savage specialized in. Letterman was edgier than Leno, but still workaday.
I have an impression Letterman wasn’t from the same echelons as Madonna and many of his other guests, and maybe grew to despise them to a degree, not unlike a Mathis-like view of their low abilities and over estimation of themselves. Idk.
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This link is where I found the photo. How different she looks from the girl on Letterman. They give various possible explanations for her ematiated look, more or less plausible.
https://www.gawkerarchives.com/5029756/why-does-madonna-look-so-awful-lately
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Or she looks like hell because she’s a lying deceiver. And the PTB may enjoy seeing people wank over women one day, then turn them into complete freak shows the next: Anna Nicole Smith, Pam Anderson, etc etc.
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You think it’s done to them, and not their own doing? Wouldn’t it depend if they’re really “from the families” or not? If they have genuine status among ruling families (if you think there are such) why would they get screwed over like that.. Maybe you don’t subscribe to the idea Madonna and these others are from a hidden aristocracy?
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It’s very hard to divine what the people in control are thinking. However, from my experience in a college fraternity – a Masonic organization – only the collective matters. It’s all about the brotherhood, and organization. So the individual is subsumed into this vast powerful group, with no real rights, or power. In sum I don’t think the collective power really care about Madonna, or other celebrities, and their egos, or legacies. They are just tools to advance the agenda. I do understand there are certain rich families, and individuals, who believe fame and celebrity are important indices on their impact worldwide. However, the in grand scheme of things these celebrities are always going to be used as part of the overall agenda and have no autonomy to make say anything that upsets the status quo.
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I will give an example of how Madonna was used for a specific agenda. One woman I dated many years ago admired Madonna because she was “anti-war” and spoke out against the Iraq war. However we know this is gigantic joke, like the war on terror, which was framed around a false blood libel against Muslims. So her being anti-Iraq war is about the weakest of stances one could take. If she had any real cajónes she would call out 9/11 as a completely fake event with Arabs blood libeled as terrorists. I don’t remember a single celebrity going this far, and there never will be one, unless said celebrity is subsequently immolated in the public sphere as complete whack-job.
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That sounds plausible that there could be a collectivist/ cult like mindset, and some disregard for the individual fate of even high status members. But it still seems more likely to me that eg Madonna’s aging badly would be her own self-destructive choices rather than intentionally doing it to her for narrative or propaganda purposes. With an unknown factor as to whether there could be genetic engineering and “elite gender inversion” tampering with nature in play, from a young age, that could effect how they age.
Or maybe she’s been swapped out entirely, I haven’t compared her pictures from young to old. In that case bad plastic surgery could cover the swap with a near lookalike. And lend itself to narrative control, without having to damage some high status group member, who presumably would resent that lol, whatever the demands of group mentality.
I recently watched Jim Henson’s The Dark Crystal and it has some of these themes – the evil Skeksis must exalt the group publicly, sacrifice all for it, but they have their own personal ambitions hidden from the others, and just want to use the power of the group to exalt themselves. I’m sure it’s all over Shakespeare if I ever bothered to read him..
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Speaking of promotion.. the creation of idols, celebrities, world stage characters, etc. This topic comes up a lot, say on fakeologist audiochats or the like. But people don’t take it very far. They say, eg, “there are many talented musicians, but we never hear of them, or they only achieve some minor success, lacking insider connections and being ‘juiced’.. meanwhile, the spawn of Hollywood royalty or just old money families, can go far on modest talent, or almost no talent in extreme cases..”
And that’s about it. But nobody brings up the hypothetical, what would a world without “promotion” even look like.. Would there be even a single celebrity, or “global superstar”? My speculation is that only a small minority of geeks give a damn to recognize and notice “talent”.. and I’m not so sure they can organically impress their taste upon the “great unwashed,” absent that character already being heavily promoted. Ie, sure, once an anointed is anointed (some who are, do have talent after all, and are therewith fawned upon by geeks) then a cult status can grow, in the geek community, around that icon. But can geeks themselves bring fame to some obscurity, however talented? The question answers itself.. no, promotion is first, then geeks are free to coalesce.. and amplify.
Consider too that these geeks, already a minority, are mostly following their geek leaders, and not true independent thinkers. But these independent minded geeks themselves would have to have status, externally conferred, to enforce their taste on the follower geeks, and potentially a wider world.
This is not well thought through, just a rough sketch since I’ve never seen anyone ponder it. Everyone acts a bit resentful if having their icons ordained for them, or for the “great unwashed” at least (if they reject all the icons) but never considers that there would probably be no acclaimed artists of any sort, absent promotion.
I could probably argue against myself here, make some counterpoints, but perhaps putting it in that strong form will generate more useful modification.
Or, here’s a thought.. maybe if social media algorithms were completely fair and neutral (nobody artificially promoted or suppressed), maybe that would represent a way for the populace to discover and promote their true holy of holies? Their ideal in the musical arts, and all the rest..
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Good synopsis. Maybe your explanation of how idolatry is forced on us explains my love of college radio. College radio tends to play obscure artists and avoids pop stars. There’s a plethora of independent artists. A good example is open mike night, which I attend occasionally at a local watering hole. Frankly, the level of talent is very high, suggesting talent is not as hard to find as popular opinion believes.
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A guy I know in our gym used to work for a music store in LA. At one point, and this was new at the time, they would allow people to rent machines to make demo tapes, which would mostly be kids with guitars. The kids would then return the tapes so that people could listen to their work.
I suggested to him that it must have been tedious to listen to all that bad music making, and he said no, that he was impressed with the amount of real talent out there. He said these kids only needed one thing … a break, which they never got. The “breaks” go to the likes of Madonna, who supposedly made her way after John Lennon gave her fifty bucks.
I watched an old Dick Cavett show where the guests were Carol Burnett and Lucille Ball’s daughter, Lucie Arnaz. Burnett mentioned that she was able to attend college because an anonymous person handed her an envelope with $50 in it to pay for college at UCLA, where she went into theatre arts. That was one year’s tuition in those days. Yeah, that happens every day. On that show they discussed middle names … Cavett’s was Alva, as in Thomas Alva Edison, Burnett’s was Creighton, as in the university. Ball’s daughter, Lucie, appeared to me light weight and untalented, uninteresting too. She played Elizabeth Short, the famous Black Dahlia, who was fake murdered … lying there in the grass, sliced to pieces, must have been a stretch for her … https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/01/10/black-dahlia/.
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Just adding.. a reminder that “promotion” goes far beyond what most typically think of as such. The truly promoted, are characters in the “lifies,” or life movies, as Neal Gabler called them. Eg, Salman Rushdie having a fatwah put out on him, for his books. Can’t buy promotion like that! Or, you might have your ear grazed by an assassin’s bullet. Such colorful lives, the promoted lead! Buy the book, cast your ballot, and you can vicariously ingest the sacrament, of the holy one, partake in the rich pageantry of their exotic lives.
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Speaking of having your ear grazed by assassins bullet, after the fake Trump assassination I realized Western civilization is toast, completely cooked. Two of my close friends, PhDs, who knew 9/11 was a false event before me, bought into this Trump hoax. What that says to me is the public is more gullible than ever. It’s very sad to see these intelligent people backsliding into very lame conventional conspiracy theories, as both of them were emailing me articles suggesting it was some sort of insider plot, with Jill Biden as Lady Macbeth. Very sad, and clearly this is the death knell of all reason. I just hope to be as far away from everything when they decide to close the curtain on this mess. Western Civilization needs a spring cleaning to dump all the garbage ideas that have crept in and throw them into the dumpster – nukes, contagious diseases, monetary theory, monotheistic religions, etcc
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Hrm, that doesn’t sound any more gullible to me than the world has ever been.. and at least they’re curious and searching for answers.
I have a Democrat-voting friend who recently said he wants to get a good look at Trump’s ear.. doesn’t think he really got nicked. Speculating freely about the extent of the possible fakery. But I think “conspiracy theories” are rife in his media bubble, being pushed to “liberals” as they have been to “conservatives” for some time.
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I have to comment on Salman Rush-die. What a funny name.
I picked up the Satanic Verses as a local book swap – one of those book kiosks that seemed to pop up everywhere the past several years. In sum, it was virtually unreadable, just compete crap, I couldn’t make it past one chapter. Clearly composed as propaganda and held up as great literature. You have been warned.
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Same here, almost.. I picked up one of his lesser known works from a free book kiosk.. only made it a few pages before tossing it.
I think I did read all of Midnight’s Children when I was in college though. In my own, just curious. I can’t remember it at all, maybe just stuck with it for not knowing any better.
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I double-dog-dare anyone to make it through the plot section without doubling over in laughter. I am nominating the Satanic Verses as the worst novel of all time. Wacky-pedia calls the style “magical realism”. Like a trip to Disneyland on acid.
The Satanic Verses – Wikipedia
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@Mark
A bit off topic, but anyway.
I’ve seen this photo elsewhere:
The two B&W photos next to each other – the nose, mouth, eye-brows, eye-lids… Strickingly similar, aren’t they?
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indeed. Who am I looking at? He looks familiar.
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Stanley Kubrick left, Salmon Rushdie right
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Very nice! I will look at it closer post return and post jet lag.
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