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How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again! (Mark Twain)
How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again! (Mark Twain)
Who’s got time on his hands today?
Piece of Mindful 
PCness is so annoying. A video just popped up on YT from Australian 60 Minutes showing an interview with a married female teacher, Karen Ellis, who around 2003 at 36 had an affair with her 15 year-old male student, Ben Dunbar, who was the initiator of the physical contact. Karen was sentenced to 2 years 8 months of which she served 6 months with the rest of the sentence suspended.
It is unbelievable the way the interviewer, Liz Hayes, keeps calling Karen a paedophile despite the fact that Karen said she wasn’t attracted to students in general and in 16 years this was the first time anything had happened and I see no reason to disbelieve her.
Of course, she regretted her actions because she lost her job, her marriage and had to go to jail apart from anything else but to keep calling her a paedophile simply because she broke the law and did something inappropriate with an underage person where it doesn’t seem grooming was going on but was rather just “one of those things” is just ridiculous.
The irony is that Liz Hayes was married to Australian businessman, John Singleton, who is said to have committed real paedophile activities far worse than what Karen Ellis did. Interestingly, one of his children was one of the alleged dead in the fake stabbing at Bondi Junction Westfield. Curious to know why she participated in it. Her boyfriend is a policeman and I suppose it’s possible that he might have got caught up in a criminal case which put his life in danger and so it may have been a good cover for Witness Protection.
Alan Jones, top radio DJ, who’s mentioned in the article below along with John Laws, top radio DJ and John Singleton, has just been charged with sexual offences. I do admire Alan Jones though for coming out against the BS pandemic and losing his job over it – not that he needed the money or the work at his age.
https://didyouknow.ink/timroy/
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/dec/18/alan-jones-new-sexual-assault-charges-to-plead-not-guilty-ntwnfb
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Your second link does not work on my iPad.
Paedophilia is a real thing. This I know because in 1987 a man broke into our home in the wee hours as we all slept and raped my eight-year-old daughter. It was horrible and he still walks free. His name is (was) Ronald Tipton, and he is probably still alive in some trailer somewhere. Why my family? I cannot speak to that matter. But what perplexes me is the idea of a formal paedophile ring. How do they form? A wink in a restroom? A want ad? Use of the Internet? These are all, supposedly, highly illegal and undercover police are on the job. Knowing as I do that Epstein was fake and still walks among us, I suspect the large paedophile rings are just another psyop. Alexander Cockburn (his real name, pronounced cobern) went to his grave insisting that the Franklin affair in Nebraska was all fake, and Counterpunch still apologizes for his insistence.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/10/still-evil-after-all-these-years/
Miles Mathis makes the point in his writing about the Catholic paedophilia scandal that while inappropriate and distasteful, interest by adults in youth who have flowered sexually is not technically paedophilia. It is statutory rape. We try to protect kids, too young to make rational decisions and too much under control of adults, from adults whose sexual proclivities tend toward them. Part of the problem with Catholic priests was that they were rigorously prevented from developing sexually in seminaries, so that when they were finally ordained, they picked up where they left off, with teens. But it was not paedophilia. It was a statutory matter. At the heart of that matter is the Church’s insistence that priests must 1) be men, and 2), abstain sexually. The most common offenders in the matter of teen-adult relationships were not the Catholics, but the public school system. Hush hush. Even the Amish have experienced this, as adults interested in teens are drawn to schools, where they have both authority and influence over them.
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So sorry about what happened to your daughter, Mark. It must have been so utterly terrifying for her.
I don’t think there’s any doubt about paedophile rings, Mark, regardless of whether the Franklin affair was all fake. The thing is they’re always controlling the narrative so they may well push out a paedophile ring that’s fake so that they can then say, “Hey, fake, these things don’t happen,” when they clearly do. Too much testimony and there’s definitely Satanic Ritual Abuse which ties in with it. In a course I did I was a witness as a woman who’d grown up with SRA described her experience.
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What Karen Ellis did was wrong, and her response was appropriate, shame and regret at both her behavior and the consequences. I am OK with that, and a 16 year old is not terribly harmed by a sexual experience with an adult. In fact, the other boys are jealous if she is a looker. My daughter was traumatized and it has taken years for her to come to grips with a stranger entering her room and innocent life and saying “Be quiet or I will kill you.” She went public in 2017 with the matter (at her mother’s suggestion and quite inappropriately), so I can speak of the matter. Before then, I was silent for 30 years.
Are there organized paedophilia rings? I will take your word on this matter as I trust your instincts. I don’t have any real life experience beyond the one individual act. If you look up Ronald Tipton and Montana rape case you’ll find a wealth of information on the event. He was caught only due to a blunder on his part, having a drug offense and as part of his plea bargain submitting DNA. To those who say DNA testing (proper use of the PCR test) is bogus, think again. The guy lived in a trailer in White Sulphur Springs, Montana, absolutely no visible connection to the 1987 event, and they nailed him. He was let go due to statute of limitations, a failure of our law enforcement system. It went all the way to the US Supreme Court, and they let his release stand. Unforgivable.
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Petra, you’re buying all that? From your description it sounds absurd, that they have multiple times to big media narratives. “Irony” you say? Coincidence? Hahaha, I can’t believe you’re that naive, as much study as you’ve given media?
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Wait, I misread a little – Liz Hayes was married to the guy, not Karen, okay. Maybe Karen’s is a real story. Maybe. But the rest still sounds bogus.
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You mean by the “the rest” John Singleton having been involved in child sexual abuse? There’s certainly not a huge amount of testimony for him in particular that I’m aware of (but certainly there is for Alan Jones and there’s a little more for John Laws I think) but I do remember about 40 years ago my father mentioning boys from boys’ homes being taken out on boats by a certain well-known politician and others. This was well before there was any general talk about that kind of thing and I wonder how my father even heard of it. I really don’t understand the notion that all this “famous people child sexual abuse” thing is made up. I know someone who received 250,000 dollars in compensation from the Catholic Church for abuse by a teacher at his school. There is soooo much sexual abuse of children among ordinary people we can only expect it among famous people too.
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There have been a few cases in my area within a few year timeframe where a teacher female and male were discovered dating one of the students. They both lost there jobs and had to do some jail time but not much. I think they both moved out of State. I thought it was fake, as I noticed alot of reports in the media about teachers with students across the USA. I also didn’t think this would be happening very often. Not everything is fake, but the hoax events do increase the budgets, federal and state grants and funding are large amounts of revenue, so there is an incentive.
It’s not hard to imagine a male in his late 20’s who hasn’t gotten any in awhile turning down a 15-17 year old female, whether for a better grade or just to fulfill a fantasy some of these girls even look in their 20’s. While most girls do not date older men(eeeww he’s older gross), some grow up without a father figure so maybe a fantasy attraction develops.
It is hard to picture a decent looking female teacher in her middle to early thirties, putting her career and reputation on the line to have sex with a teenage boy, and usually of another race, seems how it shakes out. Everyone that works in a school facility, teachers, custodians, food service,etc.. has to undergo training to look out for kids being abused, from family, or staff. We do not have access to police records or if we do it’s limited.
Child molestation does occur we all know someone or at least can browse the commitment reports and sex offender lists. The only way it would be organized is thru a fraternity that meets regularly. Mason lodges, church or grotto gatherings. Money talks in these cases.
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I went to an extremely liberal Catholic high school in the seventies and there were a couple of right out in the open relationships between male teachers and female students. Across the street was the girls school and a female teacher got caught with a female student and the nuns disapproved with extreme legal prejudice. That did not keep the nuns from indulging- the crime was indiscretion. Homosexuality was still officially taboo, though the Christian brothers that ran my school fooled no one.
I’m guessing Reagan and the rehabilitation of the post Watergate government put the clamp down on such things.
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Anything’s possible and I know nothing about it except what you’ve written here. But you say that this power couple, one in media, had a child in a “fake stabbing” incident. So they’re already by your reckoning mixed up in pushing fake media narratives – but you’re going to take at face some of the narratives they’re involved in as real, okay.. Maybe you’ve got a lot more background and context to support that, just based on what you wrote though it seems likely all bogus to me.
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It’s a challenge for me to imagine a very attractive grown woman who could’ve had her pick of an affair partner – choosing a teen boy. Not that I have an inside scoop, because I don’t, but it seems to me that where there’s smoke there’s fire. That there was a strong programmed, mind controlled pull, a charged magnet, compelling such an action.
Further, the interview sounds akin to a humiliation ritual. The incarceration, a sacrifice of self. What further prompts me toward this line of consideration is the paedo blurb on the husband. Birds of a feather.
Factors which could have simply appeared out of the blue, be coincidental or contrived, of course. But also factors which sound as a familiar elite trauma/sexual programming/initiation theme.
In 1977 at Merrimack High School (New Hampshire) a plain red headed social study teacher in her late 20’s fell for a male student of her class, who was 17. They had an affair everyone knew about although it wasn’t publicly flaunted. When the young man turned 18 and graduated they married.
In the 70s older men with younger women and vice versa didn’t turn our heads much. Not passing judgement one way or another but it seems to me that our 17/18 in the 70s was more mature than the 17/18 of subsequent decades. Coming off of the 60s and ‘love the one you’re with’.. it could be said that demographic was more promiscuous than today. But I’m so out of touch with today’s youth that I can’t suppose on that factor.
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