Manhattan Contrarian, a site I like and follow, has unfortunately entered the world of the JFK assassination. The two posts have thus far spawned almost two hundred comments, and here we go again.
I might not post this, as I do not have anything original to offer. Here’s a comment I left at Fakeologist, a post about a Miles Mathis post on the latest release of documents:
I was glad to see MM walk back from his original idea that there was some kind of underground ruling council and that JFK left the scene to participate. That, to me, detracted from one of the best written and most important papers I have ever read, one that changed my life.
I would add one more fake presidential death to his litany of Garfield, McKinley, Lincoln and JFK: FDR. Speaking of using death of the office holder as a means of installing an otherwise unelectable person in office, Harry S. Truman qualifies. He got in on FDR’s death after wee hours shenanigans at the convention to get him installed as VP, and then the 1948 election had to be stolen to keep him in office.
That, in a nutshell, me being the nut, briefly recounts Miles and why he thinks that in the cases of Garfield, McKinley, Lincoln and JFK, that the death of the sitting president had to be faked. Each was mortally ill, and in that case when a Vice President assumes office on the death of the incumbent, there is an outpouring of sympathy and grief, and the VP is allowed to assume office. Were a president to resign, given that it might have been preplanned to assure the successor of holding office, there would be calls for a new election, and there might possibly have been no President Chester Arthur, President Andrew Johnson, President Theodore Roosevelt, President Lyndon Johnson, or, as I assert, President Harry S. Truman.
Mathis claims that JFK was mortally ill, and so the whole fake death and succession game had to be set afoot once again. I do not know what that mortal illness might have been. I know he suffered from Addison’s disease, treatable now by medication, but in 1960 … I do not know. That part is a bit of a stumper.
Regarding FDR, Miles mentioned that after presiding over the Civil War, and Abraham Lincoln was old and tired, possibly ill, and needed to step down. That makes sense to me. I also imagine that after three terms and a World War under his belt, FDR was also tired and needed to retire, but the people around him insisted that he stand for a fourth term – on the assurance that he would shortly thereafter leave office and enjoy a few more sunrises at Campobello before leaving the mortal coil. Harry S. Truman was a virtual unknown, and surely would have stood no chance of election without grief and death coattails, no more than Dan Quayle could have succeeded George H.W. Bush.
All the stuff about FDR and Truman, it is up to me to flesh that out I know. I keep putting it off. I recently republished my 7,000 word piece on John Denver’s death, and marveled at the amount of work I put into it. It seemed natural then to dive into it. Now at age 74, not so much.
Anyway, read the Manhattan Contrarian’s take on the recent document dump, the evidence, and conspiracy theory here and here, a trip down memory lane for most of us. I have added a couple of comments that have drawn no attention, and pardon the snark, if I did claim that JFK was triangulated from three different buildings, I might get a response or two. As it is, crickets. Everyone there wants to debate the event, and the idea that it was a non-event event, well, it just doesn’t fly.
Piece of Mindful 
Mark, thanks for bringing this up. My first conspiracy obsession was JFK. I started researching in earnest around 2020. However, I had a serious interest in the matter going back to the 1990s, especially since I was living in Boston, ground zero for Kennedy. And one the things I could never quite figure out was if there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, by insiders like the CIA, then why is there not more pushback? Because from a distance JFK, as portrayed by Oliver Stone, seems like the ultimate president: cool, young, handsome, smart, progressive, etc. etc.
So I plunged into researching all the Mark Lane leads, and mainstream conspiracy theories, including the Men who Killed Kennedy on Amazon prime. So what kept bothering me was how a Harvard guy, from one of the most powerful and richest families, was killed like a dog in Dallas, with no one high up saying a peep. Until I found this blog, and Mile’s. Because finally the puzzle pieces fit. RFK, fake. Teddy Chappaquiddick, fake. There is really no other solution.
I think people love the endless drama of the JFK assassination, which is how the story is spun, with endless cul-de-sacs. And they can’t get over the Kennedy’s are a bunch of actors, nothing special, just good actors. They could care less about the hoi polloi. Get over it people and grow up.
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Mark, thanks for bringing this up. My first conspiracy obsession was JFK. I started researching in earnest around 2020. However, I had a serious interest in the matter going back to the 1990s, especially since I was living in Boston, ground zero for Kennedy. And one the things I could never quite figure out was if there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, by insiders like the CIA, then why is there not more pushback? Because from a distance JFK, as portrayed by Oliver Stone, seems like the ultimate president: cool, young, handsome, smart, progressive, etc. etc.
So I plunged into researching all the Mark Lane leads, and mainstream conspiracy theories, including the Men who Killed Kennedy on Amazon prime. So what kept bothering me was how a Harvard guy, from one of the most powerful and richest families, was killed like a dog in Dallas, with no one high up saying a peep. Until I found this blog, and Mile’s. Because finally the puzzle pieces fit. RFK, fake. Teddy Chappaquiddick, fake. There is really no other solution.
I think people love the endless drama of the JFK assassination, which is how the story is spun, with endless cul-de-sacs. And they can’t get over the Kennedy’s are a bunch of actors, nothing special, just good actors. They could care less about the hoi polloi. Get over it people and grow up.
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I traveled that same road, maybe a few years ahead of you of getting off it.
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Mark – Thought you or others here might get a kick out of this –
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/03/coffee-break-end-of-the-week-thoughts-on-science-and-other-matters-arising-4.html
Not the whole article, just “part 3” on measles, and a response down at the end of comments.. “Cliff” tears apart the math, rather brilliantly I thought.
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Those types of stats always sound funny to me intuitively, but it takes an engineer to sit down and confirm they don’t add up.
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I printed this out. Will read am, when senior citizens come alive.
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So convinced am I that we do not understand evolution that I have to read words like those of KLG above with willing suspension of disbelief, that amazing human attribute that allows for making of movies and writing of books, and even telling of campfire stories as I did with my kids. With evolution, I am perfectly content to set all that I know aside, and to come to rest on “we ain’t there yet, may never get there.”
Emmanuel Velikovsky devoted a portion of his book, Earth in Upheaval, to speculation that it was just such events as the cataclysm that he chronicled around 2,500 BC or so to cosmic rays that engulfed the planet, bringing about mass alteration of species, and leading (in other times) to what they call the “Cambrian explosion” or other such statements of known and shared ignorance masquerading as knowledge. Velikovsky was sufficiently pummeled to scare others away, so the field of evolution, discredited as it is, thrives on campuses and in laboratories, but not in the minds of skeptical human beings.
Measles … a new outbreak? (KLG mentions this after noting that diseases like malaria are advancing now with global warming, so that I doubt that they are advancing at all, but perhaps that tweaking of data is leading us to that conclusion. With climate change science, we cannot trust data anymore.)
Measles, with Stefan Lanka winning his court case in 2016 decision that the virus, John Franklin Enders forward, has never been proven to exist, is being advanced now as a deadly disease, and the measles vaccine is being heavily marketed again, the whole point of the Lanka gambit, that the vaccine had been mandated in Germany and he wanted that to stop.
Gadzooks! Science is so fucking corrupt, anything is possible, but could the advancing disease that is now killing people, we are told, have the same origin as Monkeypox and Long Covid … the, dare I say it, Covid vaccine? We know, at least at this blog, that SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated, never proven to exist. Same with the measles virus.
Some other game is afoot.
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Thanks for checking it out. KLG is not my favorite of their writers, I really only linked it for the comment from Cliff way at the bottom – he demolishes the math given in the science article quote – shows that it doesn’t have internal consistency – putting aside whether they’re trustworthy numbers or not.
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My current model for evolution is that there seem to be all these species “templates” – call it DNA or genetic software or whatever, but it allows for variation within limits to suit different regions and conditions – this leads to (a kind of misnomer) “microevolution” – which is then extrapolated as macroevolution, “proof” of species long term evolving into new creations..
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My current model is purely genetic engineering, intelligent design… Some one, or some thing vastly more intelligent than us puny humans just playing around. Some may call it god, but I will not. Sure, those creations are let “free” but I think the purported nodes of evolution of Homo, for example, are just those same creator(s) making changes – for the fuck of it… experimenting. ________________________________
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For every assertion, including God, is the question, “What came before?” God did not just materialize.
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I don’t rule out that the “templates” may have been engineered by some super intelligent something or other – just saying I think what we’ve been left with are these templates that can vary a lot, but not to the point of new species… Unless perhaps with cross-breeding, I’ve seen that theory to explain “macroevolution.”
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Nice comment other than the vax being good public policy.
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