Honest brokers confront a contrarian

Manhattan Contrarian (attorney Francis Menton) posted, “Why Don’t Global lower Tropospheric Temperatures More Closely Track Atmospheric CO2 Levels?, that “The big news in 2025 for the climate scare was that all of a sudden this scare wasn’t such big news any more.” I left a comment to the effect that the whole CO2 scare was the product of PR, and that like buses, when this one goes away, another eschatological demon would soon follow. I did not use that word, “eschatological”, meaning end times, but I wish I had.

MC did a JFK assassination post, 51 years after the fact still harping on the original script of misdirection from CIA to Russians to Wall Street (he left out the guy under the manhole cover). I suggested that he also consider the umbrella man, who was giving the signal used in movies … “And … action!” I suggested that the assassination was faked, and at that point he decided that my comments needed moderation. This meant that they would appear, and eventually be approved. Today’s comment disappeared. I think that everyone having been been fooled by the CO2 scare is a bridge too far. (I think I stated at the end of the comment that Galileo was not done in only by peer review, but by inability to deal with PR.)

In a similar vein, Roger Pielke, Jr. wrote that “Leaving the IPCC and UNFCCC is Bad for the United States.” I expected no less from him. I’ve been critical of him in the past for buying into the whole CO2 scam, and in this post he suggests that we need world forums to discuss these matters. Even as he is on our side, and I do trust him to state his true views, he inveighs too much on the conciliation side, not wanting to state anything outright that might make him appear less than reasonable. “Reasonable” in our world up to 2025 meant “buy in or be cancelled”. Pielke Jr. was cancelled, though he landed softly.

I left the following comment at Pielke’s post, and await its fate. I’ve not been cancelled, I mean banned yet at his site, but this might provoke it. In the article, he says “… under the legitimizing auspices of the United Nations and World Meteorological Organization …” we took care of the ozone hole, “…widely perceived to have been successful.” I commented as follows:

“I couldn’t help but notice the amazing coincidence that the American patent on the production of freon, the principle chlorofluorocarbon used in refrigerators and air conditioners, expired at just about the same time as freon was banned. Those countries that had begun producing freon without paying for the privilege were asked to stop. And a new chemical compound, a commercial product that would be protected by patent, would soon be substituted and make a lot of money for the company that produced it. Indirect evidence pointing to a decrease in the ozone layer is absurd. ” (Kary Mullis, Dancing Naked in the Mind Field)

Mullis was a contrarian at heart, and so pulled on my strings. He states there that the ozone hole was never a problem, and I suggest it was dreamed up by PR people. That made it easy to fix. He also suggested that the PCR process, for which he won the Nobel, should not be used to diagnose disease. PCR was the primary basis for detection of “asymptomatic carriers”, without which there could be no pandemic. I am yet to decide, as I do my acrostic puzzles, if “asymptomatic carrier” is a euphemism, or oxymoron, or both. Mullis died in 2019.

And, I’ve long lived by the principle that we have Democrats and Republicans prevent the rise of a second party. To me that means that everything Trump is doing could only be done by a titular Republican. As much as I support these efforts, I do not trust him”

Will this be the final straw? I am a paid subscriber to Pielke Jr.’s The Honest Broker, but my $80 a year will not even buy dinner out in Boulder, where I think he lives. (I don’t know where he lives, but know he spent many years at University of Colorado, in Boulder. Nothing more. I live in Morrison, just down the road, but look longingly now at Santa Fe, just down the road again. The home insurers in this area are forcing people to make such decisions.)

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For anyone interested, I ran across a series of quotations from The CO2 Coalition, a feisty group of scientists assembled by Gregory Whitestone, whom I also admire. It has nothing to do with anything, but I like the idea that they took trouble to assemble them in one place, with more to follow. (Author Michael Crichton was a pain in the ass to the established doctrine of CO2 danger during his life, and he wrote a book called State of Fear which had climate alarmists acting as terrorists to advance their cause. I don’t think he got to finish it, as it had side plots that were never completed.)

Here’s the list from CO2 Coalition:

You have likely heard that 97% of scientists agree that increasing greenhouse gas emissions are driving unusual and unprecedented dangerous warming. The 200-plus scientists and experts at the CO2 Coalition take strong exception to this. Many notable scientists and historical figures also disagree on the application of “consensus science.”

I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the consensus on climate change and the consensus on witches. At the witch trials in Salem the judges were educated at Harvard. This was supposedly 100% science. The one or two people who said there were no witches were immediately hung. Not much has changed. —  Will Happer

In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. —  Galileo

There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period. —  Michael Crichton

I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned. —  Richard Feynman

I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled.  —  Michael Crichton

Most institutions demand unqualified faith; but the institution of science makes skepticism a virtue. —  Robert K. Merton

When a politician says the debate is over, you can be sure of two things: the debate is raging, and he’s losing it. —  George Will

Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri. (Be skeptical of the experts). —  Horace

Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. —  Michael Crichton

The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible. —  Bertrand Russell

Genius abhors consensus because when consensus is reached, thinking stops. —  Albert Einstein

A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually. —  Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat (1915 – 2002)

Audiatur et altera pars. (Let both sides be fairly heard.) —  Fundamental principle of western law

10 thoughts on “Honest brokers confront a contrarian

  1. Nice quotes!

    I guess climate change has been getting less play the past year..? I still see semi-regular coverage on NakedCapitalism, but they’re nerds and wonks. NPR still regularly says “.. because climate change” as a capper to stories, reflexively, I’m pretty sure.

    OTOH one pretty bizarre twist in the whole saga, that I didn’t see coming, was Silicon Valley doing a 180 on obeisance to right-think, and saying it would have to take a backseat to AI and data centers. So full steam ahead on EXPANDING fossil fuel production/ extraction, because AI is going to revolutionize everything, and save humanity. It will pay off down the line, when it tells us how to save energy on everything else. Bill Gates even issued a statement to that effect – “chill on climate change, y’all, despite my previous rhetoric. It’s okay to burn fossil fuels when we suddenly have a huge need/ investment opportunity in mind..”

    Did they really catch themselves off guard like that? AI and data centers weren’t on the drawing board decades ago? Or was the script all along, to spin on a dime at the last minute.. “the plebes won’t bat an eye.. it’s 1984 out there, the narrative changes overnight, whenever we say it does..”

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    1. Well, it helps me understand better when I realize there is no measurable warming, in the sense that we can actually feel it, going on. Temperatures, seasons, climate are stable and somewhat predictable, though they can always surprise us, as this year did here in the Colorado foothills for lack of snow. No skiing to be had except on manufactured snow, and I am told that sucks.

      The whole idea behind warming was to create a crisis by means of suggestion and perception management. Why? Depopulation, of course. Warming and covid work hand-in-hand on that. I wonder if the success of the vaccines is making climate change less useful.

      Tell me your thoughts on this video, should you feel like watching it, your call.

      https://stopthoseshots.substack.com/p/died-suddenly?utm_source=podcast-email&publication_id=6474763&post_id=182654458&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&r=22vw2v&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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      1. It’s well produced, but doesn’t seem to add a lot new to the story that I haven’t seen before. Also I guess I’m used to reading blogs with a much higher signal to noise ratio – documentaries like this, even though an “anti” narrative, are using the same techniques of persuasion as the official narrative promoters.. mostly just implication, assertion, suggestion. Hard to verify anything for oneself. For instance, assuming there IS such a large rise in all cause mortality (I don’t really see it anecdotally, granted maybe I don’t know enough people) – all they’re showing is a correlation in time with the vax. But given that the scripters built in a ready made anti-vax narrative (as this doc itself shows in some clips), then might they not be misdirecting away from some other culprit, something else that was introduced into the environment? It just seems too easy and blatant. Alternatively, maybe there’s not a “vaccine genocide” (as Miles says), but rather an elaborate psyop of recruited embalmers etc, and a plan to eventually flip the narrative and say there was one.. as part of the demoralization campaign of taking down the nation state system, long term. I can only speculate..

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        1. It’s all new to me … and I thank you for your wise words. Of course it is garbage.

          This I know: There was no virus, and the draconian crackdown was done to make people miserable so that when the vaccine was introduced, there would be a stampede. They’ve been their typical selves about the vaccine, spinning us in circles. But it was important to them that billions of people take it. They would not have gone to all that trouble for a simple psyop or distraction. It was all about the vaccine.

          World population trends … remember the Georgia Guidestones? But I have no idea what the population of the planet is.

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          1. That’s a good point, whatever it was all about, it was a very unusual time and they did pull out all the stops. You HAD to promote it if you were one of their vassals or agents, like Colbert in that clip.. that’s my guess as to why he and some others are being jokey/ ironic, because they would feel even more like asses if they delivered it more sincerely.. people are actually fairly savvy about the more hokey propaganda as in PSAs, which are endlessly ridiculed.. so while Colbert is obliged to promote it, he tries to hang on to a shred of self respect/ dignity by undercutting it “ironically.”

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            1. Just finished Michael Connelly’s latest (author of Bosche & Lincoln Lawyer); The Proving Ground.

              Within is a full endorsement of the horseshit that was covid et all… and I mean all of it presentled matter-of-factly by this very popular author. An otherwise decent take on the ethics of A.I. (which is also a plan intendeding more shit for the idiots). The purported legal entanglements of AI is why I chose to read it – you know, keep up to speed with the shit shoveled.

              You must do these these things if you want to remain publically allowed to do your “job”. Bow to the useless idiot assholes.

              What a fucked up world! ________________________________

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        1. Not a requirement. I did so, but it did get tedious and my patience wears thin as one expert after another graces the screen. I do not believe in experts except my first wife, who could read people like no one else I’ve ever met.

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  2. Well there’s nothing like direct observation to contradict the “scientific fact” of global warming/climate change.

    In Thailand they are experiencing the coldest winter in anyone’s lifetime, as shown here. In central Thailand it was getting into the 40s (fahrenheit) at night and high in the high 70s when I left this week, which is at least 5 degrees cooler than anything i have experienced in the past decade.

    Bangkok Post – Doi Inthanon records season’s coldest temperature as frost returns

    I also noticed a story that tourist mags were recommending not visiting Glacier National Park and Antarctica because there has been an unprecedented surge of visitors in recent years who want to see the ice before it “disappears”. So there’s another scam tourism angle to get people to spend big bucks in the false belief that all the glaciers are going away – pretty preposterous, considering how much of the world lives in a “cold” climate – pretty much everything above 45 degrees latitude.

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    1. There is not much to see in Glacier in the way of glaciers unless you are equipped for backcountry. Maybe the people going there can rent helicopters. They are not melting in full anytime soon.

      We were at Glacier Bay, Alaska, last summer. You’d have to have a map handy, but when a British captain named Vancouver sailed by the opening to the then-frozen bay, he took notes. Years later John Muir went there, and the ice had receded forty miles or so, opening up the bay. I don’t have actual dates or numbers handy, but this all happened before the Industrial Revolution took hold.

      Scientists simply don’t understand it, then or now. The whole CO2 business is nothing but a Chicken Little psyop, but with all that grant money floating around, if they are not studying climate change, they are waiting tables.

      If you want to see and imagine ice, go into Canada, the Ice Field Parkway, a continental glacier covering a large area the size of say, guessing, Delaware, but I don’t have numbers handy. Rivers run white with silt, simply beautiful. It drains into the Arctic, Pacific and Atlantic oceans. It is receding somewhat, like almost everything, but people lack a grasp of sheer enormity of such features, and so think it is going away. Same with Greenland, people not grasping its enormity, that it is losing a minute decimal with zeroes to the right of the decimal each year in summer, graining it back in winter. Climate alarmists specialize in warning about threats in places they know no one is going … Greenland, Antarctica, Great Barrier, Siberia, all stable.

      We are in what is called the Holocene Interglacial period, and if ice cores are even somewhat reliable, we are near the end. Interesting that Holocene came in like a lion, and all continental glaciers melted, sea levels rose by 400 feet. What glaciers we see now are a recent phenomenon.

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