Parisians fail to turn out for 1944 liberation

We are staying in a hotel perhaps two block off of Champs-Elysees avenue in Paris (sha’-mi-lay’ I am told is the pronunciation). We are but a few blocks from the Arch de Triumph. It is an imposing piece of architecture.

We were told today that this was where Allied troops marched into the city in triumph in 1944, and where one million people celebrated as the French won the 1998 FIFA soccer cup. Below is a photo of the 1998 gathering, but it is perhaps 999,000 short of a million.

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So they faked it up a little bit in 1998. That is no big deal. We were told that a million people gathered in Denver to celebrate this year’s Superbowl win. I have not seen photographs, but would bet it was perhaps more like 100,000. That is just how they do things in news – they supercharge these events to make them more meaningful.

I was far more curious about the March of Allied solders into Paris in 1944. So many things about that war were a lie, so I suspected that was a lie too. Here’s a photo:

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FILE–Thousands of American soldiers march along the Champs Elysees, on Aug. 29, 1944, four days after the liberation of Paris, France. World War II began in September 1939, with Adolph Hitler’s invasion of Poland. Germany surrendered on May 7, 1945. (AP Photo/Peter J. Carroll)

Several things to note about this photo:

  • If it is a “liberation” going on, few French people took notice. Sidewalk spectators on either side of this procession are, as best as I can make out, sparse. It is hard to tell. On the left, a few people appear to be milling in small clusters, but are not much involved with the passing troops. And, those people are tiny compared to  the troops, as if far far distant from the column.
  • The logistics of the march are complicated. Soldiers would have to march up to the Arch, and then around it and then reform the wide marching procession. Only a small swath of the large column would actually go through the Arch. It is not designed for that. (See the photo above for a better perspective, as this photo makes the opening in the arch appear bigger than it is. It is just poor photo pasting.) But all I can see is a straight column of troops and an overexposed sky behind the Arch, as if the troops merely dropped in place from above. The arch appears to be wider due to extension of light, but notice how a straight line descends where the natural wall would be. They monkeyed with it.
  • Oh crap, I am not going to pretend anymore. The photo is fake, military propaganda. Just stand back from it and you will see a a clear line of demarcation across the back of the troops that extends down the sides where the trees blend. That is the cut-off used in the photo, below and inside of which which are troops, above which is the Arch, and outside of which are people in the sidewalk on a normal day, much further away than the superimposed column of troops. This is two photos (at least) pasted together.

The military needed this event, and so manufactured it out of whole cloth.

What at else about World War II is fake? Lots. But I will leave it at that for now.

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27 Responses to Parisians fail to turn out for 1944 liberation

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  2. Tyrone McCloskey says:

    “What else about World War II is fake? Lots.”
    IMO there was no Adolph (no middle name) Hitler- He was a character created by MI6 and the think tanks like The Coefficients and, later, what became the Tavistock Institute- He was the lint catcher for the British/German intel collaborators who staged both World Wars for the usual suspects in the Anglo-American alliance- Wall St./City of London/German royals who sat on the British, German and Russian thrones at the outset of this century plus long project-
    A few actors who played “Hitler”-
    Julius Schreck*, alleged founder of the SA and SS- Hitler’s chauffeur and body guard- Died in 1936 of either assassination (mistaken for the “real” Hitler) complications from an abscessed tooth, or a car accident-
    99.9% certain that’s an alias- Schreck translates as “terror” or “fear”, i.e., Ivan the Terrible- Julius the Terror-
    Gustav Weler- Bohemian actor
    , IMO coached by actor and playwright, Dietrich Eckhart, leading light of one of the occult clown factories, Thule Society, set up by British Intel- (The Brits are so good at that game) Weler is the podium-speak Hitler, the one seen in Triumph of the Will and several newsreels-
    Heinrich Berger- Hitler’s stenographer, allegedly- Allegedly died in the Stauffenberg hoax- Possibly the Hitler seen with other actors like Mussolini, a now known paid operator of British Intel- Possibly the Hitler from Ludendorff’s pack of post-WWI spies- The “Corporal” the Linz division veterans recalled- He’s the one the two bogus Iron Crosses were awarded to, giving the Hitler character battlefield cred- He may have been the bag man for Pacelli, Hitler’s future pope (PiusXII), then papal nuncio in Berlin and a source of cash for the Hitler project-
    Other actors have been ID’d as doubles for photo-ops, usually for soldiers to send to their mothers or posing with dignitaries in on the game-
    The Hitler backstory comes from Mein Kampf, written by Karl Haushofer, his protégé Rudolph Hess and Hieronymite priest and reporter, the anti-Semitic Bernhard Stampfle- It’s all bullshit- The geopolitics of Hitler’s vision are a complete lift from Halford Mackinder, British Empire apologist- Haushofer, a first rank spook and former Army General who put together the German/Japan team-up, was a Mackinder protégé-
    Schicklegruber is all legend- The name is slang for a shit digger in colloquial Austrian- The low kid on the farm totem pole was tasked with digging a ditch to run off all the liquefied cow shit on cattle farms- The name is a joke, see, courtesy of the droll wits at Tavistock…

    *Weler (sometimes Weber) was likely the guy in the docket during the Beer Hall Putsch trial, “Hitler’s” OJ circus act establishing Hitler as a major player for the pliant press/propagandists to promote globally-

    There’s a book in all this and I’m trying to find a way to organize all of it- I start in 1840- Don’t hold your breath-

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    • Let me know if and how I can help.

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      • tyrone mccloskey says:

        Will do- Full plate but its an open file-

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        • I can do decent writing and don’t monkey around, having no desire to insert my own views. I just like to roll it out as you would want it. I enjoy flow of words and stuff.

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          • Tyrone McCloskey says:

            Thanks Mark- Organizing it all is difficult because I want to run things on parallel tracks, not just chronologically- This way will show the context of each step with regard to the agenda, which was set up long before I start in the mid 19th century- When I get something close to the above, at least in part, I’ll send you some, if you dare- I’m going to let what I have ferment and work on it through the holiday break (my first extended freedom in some time) and then I’ll be willing to share- I live and work with a top flight copy editor but she cannot stand my “paradigmatic distortions”, so she will be of no help here-

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    • annspinwall4 says:

      Tyrone, fantastic stuff! I failed to read the comments back when this was posted.

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      • tyronemccloskey says:

        This is apparently the location of Matthew’s blog, which was reposting every POM post awhile ago- “Langley Ct.” Or, it might be WordPress- Even so, ha ha!- The phone number adds up to 47- Wheeeee….!!!!
        1-4 Langley Court
        London WC2E 9JY
        United Kingdom

        +4420 7430 2696

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        • tyronemccloskey says:

          Just noticed the zip code or whatever that is has an 11 embedded- Keep it coming, kids-

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        • annspinwall4 says:

          I saw that comment and remembered that he/they were reposting all new articles on Matthew’s blog…very interesting. Wonder who the new trolls might be…some comments from new people on recent articles has me thinking POM is still of interest.

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        • Jack says:

          The address is in Covent Garden – that’s a very expensive real estate area in London!

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    • Oldfellow says:

      For some reason, you either were misinformed or you misunderstood.

      The pronunciation of “Champs-Elysées” is actually this: “sean” (like Sean, but without the tongue touching the palate, so the “n” doesn’t sound) + “zay-lee-zay”. It is hard to be more accurate than this using the normal alphabet! This is not at all like the British pronunciation of “Cholmondeley”!

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      • We were sitting in a cafe in Bergen Norway and met a gentleman there who shared our table. He was Canadian and spoke fluent French. He tried for the longest time to get me to say the name of that street correctly, and finally gave up, almost in tears as he was laughing so hard. It does not roll of my tongue.

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  3. CJD says:

    Every June the D-Day remembrances pop up. In fact- there seems to be more hoopla and media attention to it the further away we get from it. Does anyone think to ask why the Allies landed in Southern France basically unopposed a month later? Reading about “Operation Dragoon” should make one at least question the military rationale for slamming into the so-called “Atlantic Wall.”

    I read several histories of the German invasion of Russia. The story goes that Stalin’s stubborn belief in Hitler’s goodwill and his own ego kept him from believing the ample intelligence that had been pouring in for months about Germany’s build up on his borders and that is how the invasion came as such a surprise and caught the Russians off-guard. It’s an absurd story- but I swallowed it for years. So much of World War II makes little sense.

    I’m of the mind now that World War II was basically a large scale live fire exercise involving millions of men being moved about all the time- with bombs from planes being dropped here and there- artillery dropping here and there- producing random casualties- and some slaughter zones where “battles” occurred – like the Hurtgen Forest- which were probably just large battle field psychology studies. I think the causalities were widely exaggerated. And this view actually jives with my own families oral history of the War- in which participants saw no battle- heard some artillery- and were pretty much moved around a lot and basically weary and bleary eyed.

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    • After I put this piece up I had it in mind that WWII would be a rich vein for research. I looked at DDay photos and found them suspicious, and was going to move on that idea, but realized that it is a massive undertaking requiring long and deep scholarship and research, basically setting everything else aside. It took me months of cogitation and digging around to produce a mere 7500 word piece on the John Denver death hoax. I felt overmatched and let it go. Others are better at that sort of thing. I am a facilitator more than a researcher.

      That in mind, if you want to use this forum to advance some of your research, I am more than willing to give it a go. After the V-man debacle you might understand that I proceed slowly in engaging new writers, but you are expressing ideas about that war that I sense to be true as well. It is a worthy undertaking if you want to write and publish some research here I am more than happy to engage.

      There is a meme about with our “greatest generation,” the Brokaw nonsense, that these men of that era saw unspeakable horror and did their duty and then turned their back on it and came home and made the Baby Boom and the 1950s economic boom. I think it more likely now that they were quiet about what they saw because they saw very little and assume all the fighting and dying was done by other battalions and units. My own Dad, stationed in the Philippines, learned to type 90 wpm on a manual typewriter, his greatest military accomplishment. He also drove an officer around, and said once he came close to live action, and the officer had him turn around and go back to base. I did not know how typical that experience was.

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      • Cjd says:

        It’s been a long journey for me since basically 9/11 and I’m not of the inclination nor do I have the time to do substantial formal research and I don’t even know what sources to trust if I were to do such. Recognizing what I don’t know is actually more essentially than what I do know- which is basically very little. Oh how far I’ve come from the days when I was a political junkue know it all who disparaged “the sheeple.” I’m more about throwing things out there that I sense or feel about something- combined with some intuitive analysis and see if it likewise makes sense to others or hits a nerve. I’m an essayist at best- not a researcher/investigator.

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        • I understand in total. But suppose this, suppose I had a book in me and was willing to put in teh hundreds of hours necessary to assemble it. Who would publish it? The mainstream houses would not touch it. It would have to be self-published, once a vanity occupation, now the only route available for truth-seekers. I do not have the stamina.

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      • Marguerite says:

        My late father-in-law saw a lot of shit in the Pacific theater. On one occasion, he was on the forward gun mount when the bow of the ship got blown off. God bless his Scots-Irish soul. He came back to father 10 children. God love him. I think we as a species have devolved since then, and yes, I think the folks of the WWII era were a better generation than us. They weren’t spoiled, weren’t addicted to iphones and technology, and weren’t materialistic driven. They lived more simply than us and had one house (if they were lucky) and one car (if they were lucky). They didn’t have all the chemicals and anti-bioltics in the food either.

        And now we are finding out how all along how expendable our soldiers, sailors, marines always were and always will be – going to war for the bankers, when during WWII we all thought it was patriotic to serve. Even after 911, a few family members of mine joined the army, marines, believing they were serving their country. The one good thing to come out of this: my sons and son-in-law do not want their sons or daughters serving. they see the writing on the wall and the pure folly of it all. All this patriotic BS and freedom isn’t free. talk. Who are we sending off to die– our beloved loved ones, and who benefits? The central bankers and controllers. So done with this. What would the controllers do if everyone stood up and said “No, we won’t go”. I think they might be in a bit of deep doo-doo. Not enough labor camps to hold us all.

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        • CJD says:

          Most families that have had a few experiences within the armed forces pretty much strongly discourage the next generations away from it. Such passed down familial wisdom about the machinations of government and so forth are hated by TPTB.

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          • Marguerite says:

            Sounds like a good thing to me! My progeny have become big time questioners and I love it! They saw the problems before I did… God, do I even admit I accepted the 911 story hook, line and sinker. But now I am a different person.

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    • calgacus says:

      On wikipedia (the ww2 page) they give the number 73 millions for all casualties(adding the numbers in the special column on the right). By what factor do you believe they increased the casualties? By a factor of 2,3,10 or maybe even bigger. The factor is probably not uniform across countries. We also know that many people were moved around during and after the war (like the Germans in various countries, the Jews etc).
      A lot of ww2 probably has to do with city redesign or making space for new factories (also remember the Great Fire of London from 1666).

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      • CJD says:

        My sense is that combat deaths in WWII were inflated. The Russian/German theater is a murky question mark to me. I’ve read some accounts that hint at the chaotic atmosphere of the red army- companies and battalions and even entire divisions just running around doing their own thing- like brigands. Are there corresponding population growth slow downs due to 10 million young Russian men dying? How about in Germany? Japan? 350,000 American combat deaths? And Germany and Japan both emerging within 15 years as mini tech producing super exporting countries? How did that work? People were complaining about Japanese electronics flooding in in the 1960’s. seems to be a great miracle for two countries that were supposedly carpet bombed and nuked and under foreign occupation.

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        • Marilyn vos Savant was asked why the US population was not affected by the Civil War, or maybe just a general question about war and population. She said that the determining factor is not male deaths, but available female wombs, which were generally exempted until modern times. But I don’t have a grasp on such things.

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          • CJD says:

            It seems to me a culture that sustains such heavy male losses just doesn’t double up on the females and replenish. And further what cultures see such mass male losses and go on to become tech giants in under two decades? I think all of us have seen the damage done to individual families by things like divorce and accidents and illness. Times that by what in the case of Germany for example? Two million dead soldiers and six million wounded? I’m thinking that would devastate a culture for decades- and one that sustained such losses doesn’t just bounce back in a decade to become some miracle propaganda example of American capitalist Cold War superiority. Just spit balling here.

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  4. tyronemccloskey says:

    Off the top of my head, Japan and Germany were occupied and their old way of doing things was forcibly replaced by the occupiers. Japan’s tech boom was American made and controlled. Like China today being a willing host for Apple and Microsoft sweat shops, the Japanese were just labor providers for western technology. Their banks were owned by the same creeps that own the banks in the west. The Japanese names on the letterheads were fronts. (Wild assertions with no back up research)
    Germany’s economic miracle was exactly the same in my never so humble opinion.
    As for casualties, maybe the inflated numbers and stock war footage shown in theaters was a manufactured excuse for the upheaval in these old cultures. Look folks, a war happened and we lost and now we are occupied and instead of making ceramics and such, we are going to make transistor radios. You gotta eat, right? Perhaps the Japanese elite simply let the corporations in through the backdoor and the evacuations and selected fire bombings were tightly choreographed amongst collaborators. Again, just invective hurled at the phantom elites. This is the advantage of the Plausibility Index: You just have to assert common sense based on a few immutable truths. Resting comfortably…

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    • CJD says:

      From my limited knowledge of Japanese history it would seem Japan was penetrated by “them” through the imperial throne- which before the Meiji “Restoration” had always been a ceremonial post. After the Meiji “restoration” (it was not in the slightest a restoration of anything but quite the revolutionary change in Japanese society from top to bottom – i.e.- Westernization masked as fanatical Japanese nationalism mixed with cracker jack mysticism)

      A few of the more powerful “Shoguns” were basically bought off- supplied with modern arms- and they installed a puppet as Emperor and Japan’s lower nobility class was destroyed or co-opted.

      Japan ceased to be a country and entered the hive in 1868.

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