Earlier this week John le Bon and I had a 2-1/2 hour conversation, which was saved for posterity.
I do not imagine I am that interesting, so relax. I am not suggesting that you go to John’s website to listen to me rattle on for that long, but there is a trove of interviews there. I am going to subscribe, but am waiting until my credit card rolls over, some time after the 20th. I am in that time frame where I can incur an expense, and then postpone payment for almost 60 days. It is an interest-free loan.
I do urge readers to visit his site, as this very interesting young man contributed tons to our interview. He is currently a resident of Plovdiv, Bulgaria, a beautiful city north and west of Greece. One thing I wanted to ask him is how he ended up there, but I never got around to it, you know, talking about me, me and then me.
I do suggest that you go to his website, maybe even become a subscriber. Right now my name is pasted on the front page, but that will roll over as he finds someone else to interview. In theory you can listen to the first hour without becoming a member, but for those I have directed there, that has not worked. My fascinating ruminations appear to be forever behind the pay wall. [Here is the link to bypass the pay wall for the first hour, supplied by John: https://www.johnlebon.com/uncategorized/bonversations-ep-23-mark-tokarski-14-jun-2022-public-release/%5D
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One thing we talked about was climate change, and I recalled watching a 1975 movie called Rancho Deluxe. It was filmed in Paradise Valley, a beautiful stretch of land perhaps 60 miles long on the Yellowstone River. The valley connects the towns of Livingston with Gardiner, which is the northwest entrance to Yellowstone National Park. It is currently undergoing heavy flooding. The road in YNP that leads from Gardiner to Mammoth is wiped out now, and I doubt that people will be traveling there for a couple of years.
The reason I brought up Rancho Deluxe was that I spent a lot of time there while a Montana resident, and in watching the movie decades after it was made, felt regret that the mountains nearby were loaded with snow pack. How sad, I thought, with global warming, that we would not see that again in our futures.
My point was that if we do not pay close attention, do our own research and think for ourselves, we absorb the mainstream narrative, and are not skeptical enough. This year, with heavy snow pack and rain to boot, flooding is going on. We can easily see that the snow pack in that area varies from year to year. The climate is variable, never stable, and is not changing to any degree that is harming anyone.
Snowfall is not in decline. Temperatures, if anything, are in slight decline as we wind down in our Holocene Interglacial period. Due to precessions and oscillations and other stuff I do not grasp, during these brief (10-15,000 year) escapes from our normal glaciated epoch in the Northern Hemisphere, we have warm periods and periods of cooling.
The Holocene has been going on now for around 12,000 years. When it ends, North America will cool again, glaciers will return, crops will fail, windmills and solar panels and other memorials to our current insanity will be buried under ice. Trust me on this one: Cooling is not something we want. Warming is good.
The New York Times tells us that current flooding in Montana is part of Climate Change, and that every other National Park will soon endure the same fate. I watched in 1988 as two million acres in the Park burned to a crisp as a result of a prolonged drought. The place is now lush again, the forest canopy fully recovered. It varies.
The New York Times is full of shit.
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John and I wandered afield, and I want to cover two more topics from his perspective, autism and ultrasound.
As above, with Climate Change, I have been passively absorbing the mainstream narrative regarding autism. Here is Peter Breggins, MD, from his 1994 book, Toxic Psychiatry:
Responding to a PR blitz from biopsychiatry and from parents of autistic children, represented by the Autism Society of America, the media have been promoting the idea that autism is now a known physical disorder, that parents have no role in creating the problem, and, further, that no one in the profession believes anything else. None of these assertions is true. The evidence for a physical basis for autism is as flimsy as the evidence in regard to other psychiatric disorders.
The other disorders that Breggins sets aside with great force are schizophrenia, manic depression (“bipolar disorder”), ADD, learning disorders, dyslexia, childhood depression, and just about every other “disease” that parents induce in children (along with schools and enforced boredom). There are no chemical tests that give us a diagnosis for any of those, no lists of physical symptoms that indicate that there are problems that can be objectively relegated to chemical imbalances in the brain.
No one in any profession has a clue about chemicals in the brain or their proper balance. It is all hooey. Two professions now rule from a high perch and offer nothing in terms of credible science for us: Virology, and Psychiatry. Both should be set aside with great force.
And here I was, assuming 1) that vaccines cause autism that it is running wild now, and that 2) psychiatrists are on top of this. Just as with Climate Change before I looked into the matter, I was passively absorbing the landscape around me. I’ve got to stop doing that!
John made the very interesting point that while vaccines are like our modern religion that no one can question, they do allow a subsurface industry to flourish that attributes autism to certain vaccines. Hmmm.
There exists a TV series called “The Shield,” which ran from 2002 to 2008. It was about corrupt cops, but a side plot was how the leading character, Vic Mackey, had two children who were autistic. He and his wife confronted a pediatrician who claimed that there were no studies connecting autism to vaccines. Vic’s wife, Corrine, recited an elegant rebuttal of that notion to her.
The point is that this series, which was mainstream fare, was allowed to indict vaccines as the cause of autism. Nothing gets on TV by accident.
John brought up a topic that he is very keen on and that I have no inkling about: The effects of ultrasound on babies. He says that the procedure is now cooking kids in the womb, as the intensity of both the procedure and the power of modern devices used to create those images is harming children.
If indeed autism is rampant, John suggests we look beyond vaccines and at ultrasound. Indeed I want to know more.
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Anyway, JLB asked me to do the interview, and I came away with new ideas, topics of research, and new attitudes. He enlightened me.
Piece of Mindful 
MT,
I thoroughly enjoyed (as a full member of JLB’s site/forum) your “Bonversation” with JLB. It was 2 1/2 hours very well spent last evening.
Most impressive, I thought (and it seemed also JLB), was hearing about your physical workout schedule. Wow. Kudos to you.
On ultrasound (as well as birth trauma, which was also discussed) . . . Following are pertinent links (as per emails I sent you late last night, which you probably have not yet had a chance to review) . . .
(Note: Jim West is the premier researcher on the dangers of fetal ultrasound. His erudite research site, Harvoa.org, is on the POM blog roll, and Jim has been active in POM threads from time to time. I recall speaking to this issue with him in one or two threads; although, we have had private email exchanges in this regard.)
From my email last night:
Attached is an email that Jim sent to me in August 2020 — forwarding to me an article he wrote following publication of his book. There is more info/data on his site: harvoa.org.
Begin forwarded message:
From: jwh jw@harvoa.org
Subject: ultrasound article
Date: August 14, 2020
This is a fairly thorough article, published a few years after the book:
https://townsendletter.com/April2017/ultrasound0417.html
Jim West
Following is a link to Jim’s 2015 published treatise on this topic (which I purchased in August 2020, following my email exchange with him):
50 Human Studies, in Utero, Conducted in Modern China, Indicate Extreme Risk for Prenatal Ultrasound: A New Bibliography
Also from my email last night:
Despite being a mom, and unknowingly subjecting my daughters to harm via fetal ultrasound — I feel BETTER knowing this information. I would hope other moms would too, but that is generally NOT the case (as JLB instinctively implied).
https://radiationdangers.com/ultrasound/ultrasound-pregnancy-risks-latest-research-about-the-dangers/
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From my second email to you last night:
https://www.thehighersidechats.com/jeanice-barcelo-the-dark-agenda-behind-the-hospital-birth-protocols/
(Note: Some of the links embedded below are no longer active.)
Show Notes
Join Greg Carlwood of The Higherside Chats as he talks about birth trauma, prenatal care, the dangers of ultrasounds and Pitocin with guest, Jeanice Barcelo.
Many of us are all too familiar with the cold, clinical process of childbirth, where pregnant mothers and their fetus’ are subjected to endless tests, injections, and ultrasounds, all in the name of modern medicine.
And while these method [sic] of madness may be hailed within the scientific community, it is obvious our prenatal care and birthing process have mutated into an industry orchestrated to prey of the fear of new parents.
This cycle has evolved throughout the last century, from a natural, love-filled process, to one that is designed to deliberately genetically alter both mother and child, through psychological torture beginning from the moment of incarnation and resulting in both cascade of interventions during birth and lifelong effects on fertility.
Fortunately, today’s guest, Jeanice Barcelo, joins The Higherside to shed some light on one of the darkest undercurrents of the conspirasea. As an author of books like, “Birth Trauma and the Dark Side of Modern Medicine”, Barcelo offers incredible insight into the physical, emotional and spiritual effects of each step in our prenatal care and the birthing process.
[3:00] With no better place to start than the beginning, Greg and Jeanice kick things off by discussing the big picture. Although we are aware of the constant onslaught of dangerous poisons and detrimental toxins bombarding our system from virtually every angle, we may overlook, as Barcelo explains, that this assault starts before birth, during preconception and prenatal care. She and Greg unravel the history of how society has moved away from the natural birthing process to our current clinical state, in large part, due to the influence of the Rockefeller family during the late 1800s and early 1900s.
[10:00] Jeanice discusses the hospital birthing protocols, beginning with prenatal care. She explains how from inception, the medical industry begins it’s assault through prenatal vaccinations, ultrasounds and gestational diabetes testing. Barcelo elaborates on the dangers of ultrasonic waves, how this radiation effects the fetus, how the alarming increase in the frequency of ultrasounds during a pregnancy is effecting fertility rates.
[22:00] Ultrasounds, vaccines in pregnancy, induction and the use of Pitocin during labor, all negatively impact our health and cellular symbiosis. Barcelo elaborates on how the use of Pitocin, a synthetic form of Oxytocin, effects a mother’s natural Oxytocin production during childbirth and the devastating impact it has on the bonding between parents and children. Greg and Jeanice also discuss the impact of epidurals, cesarean sections, cord clamping, eye ointments, new born hats, swaddling and circumcision by examining the physical, mental and spiritual damage done.
[32:00] Moving from the damage caused during prenatal care, Greg and Jeanice talk about the birthing process itself. As the number of induced labors skyrockets, Barcelo details not only the harmful physical effects, but also the sinister symbolic implications of induction. Jeanice explains the subtlety behind the unconscious attack on sovereignty through the induction of labor and walks through the various aspects of childbirth that have proven to be most devastating.
[42:00] With Pitocin being the culprit behind so much destruction, Greg and Jeanice turn their attention towards this synthetic toxin responsible for undermining a mother’s ability to produce real Oxytocin, a critical chemical involved in bonding. Oxytocin is vital not only during bonding, but as Barcelo explains, plays an important role in breast-feeding, and postpartum depression.
[53:00] Greg and Jeanice discuss the laundry list of side effects associated with the epidural and the illusion of a “natural birth”.
Become a Plus Member at http://www.TheHighersideChatsPlus.com/subscribe to hear a second hour of all THC episodes. This week’s included:
– cutting the cord, causing weak births, and raising some scary occult implications for giving away your baby’s blood
– how much of the pain of childbirth is unavoidable vs how much is situational
– more on the creator and the spiritual implications
– the sexualization of children
– the dark ritual of circumcision, and the blood sucking by mouth tradition that still goes on today
– the vaccine and eye ointment components
– episiotomy
-the modern practice of making live from the eggs of dead women and the sperm of dead men
A few valuable resources from the interview:
Jeanice Barcelo “The Dark Side of Prenatal Ultrasound”:
http://birthofanewearth.com/?p=4100
Jeanice Barcelo “What Happens In The Womb And During Early Years Affects The Baby For A Lifetime”‘:
http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/search/label/Womb%20Violence
Jeanice Barcelo “Vitamin K Shot After Birth Linked To Early Childhood Leukemia”:
http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/search/label/Vitamin%20K%20Injections
Jeanice Barcelo “Autism Rates In The U.S. Continue To Skykrocket- 1 in 68 Children Now Have Autism”:
http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/search/label/Vaccines%20in%20Pregnancy
“Fetal Heart Rate Monitoring During Labor”: https://www.acog.org/Patients/FAQs/Fetal-Heart-Rate-Monitoring-During-Labor
Jeanice Barcelo “Induction With Cytotec/ Misoprostol Is Killing Women And Babies”:
http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2013/03/induction-with-cytotecmisoprostol-is.html
Jeanice Barcelo “Pornography and the Deliberate Manipulation of Human Sexuality”:
“Birth As We Know It”: http://birthasweknowit.com/
Books by Susun Weed: https://www.amazon.com/Susun-S.-Weed/e/B000APVVDU/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1510691350&sr=1-1
Want more Jeanice Barcelo?
Check out her website “Birth of A New Earth”:
http://birthofanewearth.com/
Check out her Youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/user/birthofanewearth
https://www.youtube.com/user/jeanicebarcelo
Or grab her book “Birth Trauma and the Dark Side of Modern Medicine” on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Books-Jeanice-Barcelo-M/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AJeanice%20Barcelo%20M.A.
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MT,
Sorry, my reply did not copy/paste very well. But you get the gist.
Since some of the links were not viable, I wanted to link to Jeanice Barcelo’s book on birth trauma: https://birthofanewearth.com/2019/04/birth-trauma-and-the-dark-side-of-modern-medicine/. I have a signed copy somewhere in my library, as I met Jeanice years ago at a Free Your Mind Conference in Philly. I would like to point out that I do not concur completely with all of her conclusions; particularly, more recently, with respect to the COVID narrative. I seem to recall speaking to this a while back in a POM comments thread. That said, within the context of birth trauma in hospital settings, I do recommend her book. (Note: I chose to birth both of my children at HOME, and to NEVER subject them to any “vaccinations.”)
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Thanks – it all came thorough on my desktop. iPad and phone are weird sometimes. Also, the YouTube video is gone, the account suspended.
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I guess we have to be a member to listen to your Boncast as there isn’t a player that shows up like on some of his other podcasts pages. Interesting top of webpage with photos of certain actors. Wondered why he put the actress from the movie fight club photo on there and then found her name is Helena Bonham Carter, shes a Bon too, like Bon Jovi…lol Is Jon related to Simon Lebon from Duran Duran?
“Vic’s wife, Corrine, recited an elegant rebuttal of that notion to her.”
what was the episode #, or anyway to get a link to that scene?
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Greg,
You can try this link here to Part 1 of their discussion: https://content.libsyn.com/p/c/3/f/c3fa4db15dcad67a/Bonversations_Ep23a_Mark-Tokarski_14-Jun-2022.mp3?c_id=129912362&cs_id=129912362&response-content-type=audio%2Fmpeg&Expires=1655597701&Signature=A3ijievG2Wg8V-LpE3br3MoRketKgznbMJzkyfWMre~FQC1XYP9PbdEWBd~497GdfCI~GmkusiUAM3OTIDFCAcQLkhfyl4vGg8apyWttDp-fzOGwHTPqflsnJXlWBo86RByaBcAyA4-~60om-5SmkV9SdBBbjnjsX1LB1KNBq3ZqOqRjkWK4hEyK-0O752h~T7IhIQxUC3zpHlT4CGMoWnph9QawRqa8uG3YISN2w0Qh6vQNYtu8QPtO6Ina00TwaXtHN8f8wbFOABHvDneZ6vgKZXL7hWOLPoHrlBox0NTxAipFYLq15j83Deiy09DKKchY32sfooae9WoXn8Fsvw__&Key-Pair-Id=K1YS7LZGUP96OI.
I think JLB intends to provide in the next couple weeks free links (for POM members) to their two-part conversation.
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John just gave me the link today that links to part one, probably the same result as Stephers’. Here it is:
https://www.johnlebon.com/uncategorized/bonversations-ep-23-mark-tokarski-14-jun-2022-public-release/
Regarding The Shield, I watched six seasons, and it is contained therein. I do not know season or episode, but if I had to guess, I would say somewhere in season five. Maybe a search engine would help, maybe Duck more than Google, so heavily censored. Wish I could help more.
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On “The Shield” . . .
I am not sure if this is precisely what you are talking about, but here is a link to “The Shield – The Vaccine Storyline (+ Deleted Scene)” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yeF_jYGj4c.
My two cents (for what it’s worth) . . .
In my opinion (following many years of fairly in-depth research into the potential link of vaccines and autism), what is being reflected in the TV show is a red herring; and thus, was permitted by the System. Thimerosol (a toxic ingredient in the vaccines) is not directly linked to autism (despite any cover stories, as depicted in “The Shield”). In recent years, thimerosol (mercury-containing preservative) was removed from nearly all vaccines, and yet the spike in autism continued (see the Mercola article below). While mercury is harmful when injected, it was most likely not the mercury that was the culprit in this regard (RE: autism).
So, Big Pharma allowed this reveal to slip out in the MSM (and even seep into TV show revelations) as an astroturf giveaway, so to speak. The real story (which may involve dangerous childhood inoculations, still laden with aluminum,) goes layers deeper. https://jeffreydachmd.com/2018/07/aluminum-in-vaccines-cause-autism/
Funny thing, in the linked scene, Vic says, “this is a bait and switch” – that is exactly what I am attempting to describe – they are placing thimerosal in the spotlight as the “villain” (thereby ostensibly removing it from the concoctions), while letting aluminum and undisclosed components of these childhood vaccines get a green light (via omission from public discussion). Sneaky.
This article from 2013 hints at the trickery (spearheaded by RFK Jr.). https://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2013/06/rfk-jnr-government-scientists-are-lying-about-vaccines-thimerosal-autism-link.html. What the article did not reveal (as it is also highly misleading, and not telling the real story) is the controlled opposition at play here. Thimerosal was not the main culprit of autism (as I mentioned above), and the companies simply decided that it was time to remove this dangerous ingredient, and substitute it with more advanced – undisclosed – technology (that was waiting in the wings). Hence, the confounding narrative got a lot of play (because it is misdirection).
On this note, following is a cut/paste of an article by Dr. Mercola published in July 2009. I have to copy it in full here (sorry, guys, I think it is important stuff), as the link is now dead (due to Mercola removing all of his archives – sneaky, that one too!!) . . . It should be noted that both RFK Jr. and Dr. Mercola are not anti-vaccine.
The Rolling Stone article above is from 2005, but if you haven’t yet read it I strongly encourage you to do so. In it Kennedy explains that in light of the evidence against the use of thimerosal (a mercury-based preservative) in vaccines, he is undoubtedly convinced that the link and the epidemic of childhood neurological disorders are real.
Moreover, he describes the collaboration between the government health agencies and the drug industry a “chilling case study of institutional arrogance, power and greed.”
Perhaps the most stunning aspect of the story is the extent to which many of the leading officials were willing to go to hide the disturbing evidence.
In fact, the article details a secret meeting among federal officials and pharmaceutical industry representatives held in June 2000 to discuss a new study that found thimerosal in vaccines appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and other neurological disorders in children.
Kennedy wrote:
“[Upon hearing the evidence] instead of taking immediate steps to alert the public and rid the vaccine supply of thimerosal, the officials and executives at Simpsonwood [the conference center] spent most of the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data.
According to transcripts obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, many at the meeting were concerned about how the damaging revelations about thimerosal would affect the vaccine industry’s bottom line.”
Today, there is little doubt that thimerosal, a preservative that is 50 percent ethylmercury, is a contributing factor in many cases of autism. It is a well-established fact that exposure to mercury can cause immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions — all similar to traits defining, or associated with, autism.
Still, the U.S. government has clung to their statement that vaccines do not cause autism, and it wasn’t until 2008 that they made an unprecedented admission and conceded that vaccines, including some with thimerosal, “significantly aggravated” an underlying disorder and caused autistic symptoms in at least one child.
Have Autism Rates Declined Since Thimerosal Was Removed From Vaccines?
Thimerosal was taken out of most childhood vaccines at the beginning of the decade. In 2006, studies of two government databases indicated that autism rates went up as thimerosal dosages increased, then began to decline as thimerosal was removed.
Yet, if you look at this Time magazine article, it says that autism rates have continued to climb since thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001.
Why the discrepancy?
It could be due to the fact that in 2002 the U.S. government began recommending flu shots to children under 2 (and now recommends them for kids until they’re 18). Well, most flu shots still contain thimerosal; so many infants are still being exposed to mercury.
There is also the issue of vaccine timing. According to Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD:
“Giving too many vaccines over too short a time to infants whose nervous system is not yet fully developed can also trigger autism and its spectrum of disorders.”
And, according to Dr. Russell Blaylock, M.D., a board-certified neurosurgeon and author, multiple vaccines given close together over-stimulate your brain’s immune system and, via the mechanism of “bystander injury,” destroy brain cells.
What Other Damaging Toxins are in Vaccines?
I applaud Mr. Kennedy for taking such a courageous position on this sensitive topic, and I believe it is important to share his views here. However, please understand that while I believe mercury is a potent neurotoxin that should be avoided and not be in vaccines, I believe there are a variety of factors that contribute to autism.
I am not at all convinced that mercury is the sole culprit. Dr. Cannell has a compelling theory that seems to correlate with the facts in which the massive decrease in vitamin D in pregnant women is a major factor. Additionally there has been a dramatic increase in the number of vaccines, especially given at an earlier age, which also likely plays a major role.
And even though many childhood vaccines are now thimerosal-free, you should know that that doesn’t make them safe.
The current U.S. immunization schedule calls for children to get 48 doses of 14 vaccines by the time they’re just 6 years old. By age 18, federal public health officials say they should have gotten a total of 69 doses of 16 vaccines from day of birth to age 18.
Public health officials have NEVER proven that it is indeed safe to inject this number and volume of vaccines into infants, children, pre-adolescents and teenagers. What’s more, they cannot explain why, concurrent with an increasing number of vaccinations, there has been an explosion of neurological and immune system disorders in American children.
Another potential toxin that is in many vaccines, and one you might not have heard of before, is aluminum.
When you or your child is injected with a vaccine, the aluminum compounds it contains accumulate not only at the site of injection but travel to your brain and accumulate there. In your brain, aluminum enters neurons and glial cells (astrocytes and microglia).
Studies have shown that aluminum can activate microglia and do so for long periods, which means that the aluminum in your vaccination is priming your microglia to overreact.
The next vaccine acts to trigger the enhanced inflammatory reaction and release of the excitotoxins, glutamate and quinolinic acid, Dr. Blaylock points out.
Meanwhile, if you come down with an infection, are exposed to more toxins, or have a stroke or head injury of any kind, this will magnify the inflammatory reaction occurring in your brain due to the vaccines. Research has shown that the more your immune system remains activated, the more likely it is you’ll suffer from a neurodegenerative disease.
The aluminum hydroxide used in many vaccines, including hepatitis A and B, and the Pentacel cocktail for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, and meningitis, has been clearly linked to symptoms associated with Parkinson’s, ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease), and Alzheimer’s.
Even a study in Pediatrics, the official journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics, admitted that:
“Aluminum is now being implicated as interfering with a variety of cellular and metabolic processes in the nervous system and in other tissues.”
This has led some experts to suggest that aluminum in vaccines may be linked to autism.
Want to Learn More About Vaccine Issues?
I’m not anti-vaccine, but rather pro-vaccine safety. I believe it is extremely important to have the right to choose to be allowed to make informed consent decisions about what you want to inject into your child, and yourself, and when.
While there is a lot of misinformation circulating about vaccines, especially from supposedly trustworthy sources like public health agencies, there are still excellent sources of information out there, and one of the best is The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), the American vaccine safety watchdog. Exploring the information on this site, as well as on the many pages of Mercola.com, will help you to get educated.
And remember, you still have the legal right to refuse to vaccinate your children. While all 50 states have immunization requirements, 28 allow parents to opt out for medical or religious reasons. Another 20 states allow parents to opt out for personal or philosophical reasons as well.
My previous article, How To Legally Avoid Unwanted Immunizations Of All Kinds, explains how you can go about practicing this right, and there is also an entire chapter in my book Take Control of Your Health devoted to this very topic.
Knowledge truly is power, and the more you know about vaccinations, the more empowered you’ll be to make the best decision for the health of you and your family.
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That is all very interesting and compelling. Thank you. Your ability to sort through the mass of information and propaganda is very impressive. How you found that link from The Shield, only a vague memory with me … I would not have had an inkling how to get there. And then to cut through the crap, and to comprehend why it was allowed on mainstream TV … as always, you are an amazing resource.
RFK Jr. is a point of interest. He is a figure of mass sympathy, supposedly having lost his father and an uncle to violent public deaths. As a child he must have remained in contact with both after they were removed from public view. He must have been made to understand that public figures often have to play public roles that involve a great deal of lying and emphasis on acting out roles that appear noble but are in fact deceitful. Maybe it is time for another grassy knoll and book depository to remove this scoundrel from public view. Let him live out his days in isolation and seclusion. Somewhere there is a private beach house to house this charlatan.
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Up until 2017, when RFK Jr made the key statement quoted below, he was my brave hero, he reverberated with me.
From his speech of 2017.
“A lot of people say well maybe it’s the glyphosate, from the pesticides, maybe it’s PFOA from flame retardants, maybe it’s ultrasound. There’s a number of hypotheses, they all should be investigated. But none of them [except vaccines he implies] has the timing, or the sexual dimorphism that we see that we need to explain, when we look at these disorders.”
Upon reviewing his speech presently, with clearer eyes, I see him as deceitful.
Placed well is the term, “sexual dimorphism”, which, as a big science term containing the exciting word “sexual”, stuns his audience, yet goes nowhere.
He puts ultrasound at the end of his suspect list, after “flame retardants” (with which he is soaking down his worshipping audience) .
Yes (as he says) autism is the result of many environmental stressors, however, he deprioritizes ultrasound behind unintelligible words, when it should be first on his list, as its argument has no contradictions.
Vaccines vs ultrasound:
https://harvoa-med.blogspot.com/2019/08/vaut.html
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Kennedy’s previous track record is equally dark and impressive. While acting as a lawyer at NRDC (early 1990s) he sold out the Huaorani tribe to Big Oil in the Ecuador’s remote (Napa River) rain forest. It’s a complicated story, but isn’t that his specialty, weaponizing simple English to obfuscate the simple truth?
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Several tweets (in no particular order) from Alison regarding RFK Jr. and his NRDC involvement:
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If I believed in heroes, Jim, you would be at the top of my designated hero list. Your courage (and your fortitude), my friend, is beyond measure. I am deeply appreciative of your fastidious research – and for dropping in here, at this time, to provide much needed clarity.
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Thank you for the links!
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“Jeanice” is a nasty tranny:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=PCOgVvKJ&id=BA563B7333043ACBD8EDF9D143F7EFEFAE293B11&thid=OIP.PCOgVvKJsd65JSThllTAZgAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.3c23a056f289b1deb92524e19654c066%3frik%3dETspru%252fv90PR%252bQ%26riu%3dhttp%253a%252f%252fcrazzfiles.com%252fwp-content%252fuploads%252f2019%252f07%252fJeanice.jpg%26ehk%3d0X%252fYmppMAvh3AlwgkxXywIKYUm9lFLXNJc7IVc3mPGw%253d%26risl%3d%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=480&expw=439&q=Jeanice+Barcelo+tranny&simid=608031734423825811&FORM=IRPRST&ck=489ACEC4E1D3538C2A6466EF0A19858B&selectedIndex=3&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0
Highly ironic a tranny who speaks out on pornography (it’s very presence is pornographic) and birth trama.
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I forgot a very important point, these people like to make it blatantly obvious what they represent:
Just change one letter in Barcelo’s name and you get this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbelo
“Barbēlō (Greek: Βαρβηλώ)[1] refers to the first emanation of God in several forms of Gnostic cosmogony. Barbēlō is often depicted as a supreme female principle, the single passive antecedent of creation in its manifoldness.”
These people don’t have to be real women, they just have to believe that they incorporate the “supreme female principle”. This btw very much coincides with the J3wish K4bb4list notion that in order to complete the last stage of the cleanse, Shekhina, the female principle and thus chaos has to be invoked. You have this conflation of the female principle with chaos in countless other traditions (Tiamat and so on), because I’d suggest that they all have the same mystery school origins.
PS Mark, just in case you’re wondering about my changing IP addresses, I’ve switched from using VPN to Tor to protect myself, it’s getting harder and harder, though.
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@Mark Tokarski
Hey! Did my previous, longer post with the multiple links come through? Could you publish it, please?
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I checked the bins … nothing.
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Thanks, Mark, this is strange. When I tried to post it again, WordPress told me “Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!”, then I altered it a bit and it went through (without being posted of course, due to the multiple links it contains), so I reckon it is either a technical issue or there might actually be an instance of WordPress itself shadowbanning comments. Can you check again, please, whether something is in the bin now?
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Found it in Spam. Weird stuff does go on here occasionally. A comment that does not appear in any bin is odd, something beyond an algorithm at work. We had a comment appear and then disappear recently. I had an entire post disappear one time, about Dennis Washington, the most powerful man in Montana, a descendent of George’s brothers, just vanish. He’s hidden in the tapestry of that state, people don’t even know he exists. Fortunately, a guy from another Montana blog found it in Wayback and I republished. I should check and see if it is still there.
Ab wondered in our recent interview why I am even allowed to publish, given the nature of the things we do here. My only answer was that I pay for this site, but more likely I am under the radar. That’s all I can make of it.
I wonder sometimes things like … has McCartney ever read my stuff? I fantasize yes, but realistically he lives in a fairy tale world surrounded by adulation, and never sees anything negative.
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This place is definitely special, I wouldn’t be posting otherwise.
It does show you you’re over the mark when the shadowy stuff happens and I’m very confident at this point that ritual s0d0my is central to what they’re pulling off. The free will of the people who are affected by this can just be switched off as per the programming.
But I’m quite confident it’s not beyond any algorithm, I’m a software developer myself, it’s not magic, it all has to be very well thought-through, planned and organized. The measures just vary and they try to not show their hand, unless it’s very crucial to obfuscate something. I know quite well about the stuff they can pull off at this point and it’s very far-reaching. Check out this here for instance: https://web.archive.org/web/20210515014308/https://prepareforchange.net/2018/04/23/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/
They even have the students at the J3wish Shuls (Y3shiva) do this kind of stuff, there’s ample amounts of evidence for this, let me know if you want more, I can compile a couple links. I’ve watched this extensively for years and years, saw how blogs got completely taken over when they opposed J3wish orthodoxy, archive waybackmachine exclusions, the whole nine yards. They’ve been moving hi tech from the silly con valley to Isr4el for a long while now, Microsoft and Intel being only two examples. All the recent hardware is booby trapped through the firmware, you can hardly fight it at the software level at that point.
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MTC,
Your assertions regarding ritual sodomy may potentially be accurate (still to be determined). I learned most of this information from attending Free Your Mind conferences over the years, where I met individuals who claimed to be victims of this mind control abuse, as well as therapists who offered support for these individuals.
Ironically, it was Jeanice Barcelo (whom I have met a couple times, and she is certainly not a tranny) who educated me on this – at the Free Your Mind Conference. You can listen to her pertinent talk here from 2016, “Jewish Satanic Sexualization” https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/jewish-satanic-sexualization-lecture-by-jeanice-barcelo_9eNgLrRyP8Jniih.html. I had a tough time finding this talk online, as it has been scrubbed from most places.
To be very clear, one may agree or disagree with Jeanice on various topics – and may certainly consider this particular topic of conversation to be very, very dark (and hard to listen to) – but to emphatically state that she is a tranny is not only a misdirect and inconsequential, I think it belittles not only her, but many of us here who are genuinely attempting to speak power to real truths – even those that are heinous to consider. In my opinion, tranny talk is beneath us here, and does nothing to elevate dialogue.
Jeanice has not only courageously spoken to the topic of ritual abuse and elite Jews potentially involved, she has been the foremost researcher and educator on systematic and perpetual medical violence being perpetrated on mothers and children. I may not agree with her political views, but she is someone who has changed lives for the better. I knew in the 1990s that vaccination was dangerous – never allowing toxic concoctions to touch my children – but I wish I had known about the potential dangers of fetal ultrasound.
Since this post is directly relevant to JLB, here is a link to what he had to say in April 2019 about Jeanice Barcelo, and how learning information from her (RE: birth trauma/ultrasound) actually changed the course of his life: https://www.johnlebon.com/member-videos/alien-tech-infertility-and-the-stargate-sync/.
Huge thanks to Chris746 for bringing Jeanice Barcelo’s work on ultrasound to my attention.
It turns out that Barcelo has been focusing on ultrasound since early last year. It was her work on Birth Trauma in general which in 2016 changed not only the direction of my research but also the course of my ‘real life’.
In brief, for the first half of 2016, I was working as a sales rep in health insurance (I know, I know) for a well-known, international company. At the time I was doing my YouTube thing on the side. Back then, this website didn’t exist, and I was not earning any money whatsoever from my research or content production.
Believe it or not, I kinda enjoyed that job. I learned a lot of lessons which will stay with me for the rest of my life. I also earned a lot of money (by my standards), and because of my frugal lifestyle, I was able to save a fair amount of it. These savings would later go into funding my living expenses while I attempted to build this website into what it is today.
Around May of 2016 I heard an interview between Barcelo and a show host on Renegade Broadcasting named Charles Giuliani. This was my first exposure to the concept of ‘Birth Trauma’ and it blew me away. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing, but on an intuitive level it all made sense.
I had been listening to the Giuliani/Barcelo interview while traveling to and from a friend’s house. I listened to the first half on the way there, and the second half on the way home.
I’ll never forget the walk home that night.
As soon as I arrived back at my place I began researching the topic of Birth Trauma for myself and discovered some seriously black pilled stuff. Within two weeks I had quit my job and the rest, as they say, is history.
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Hey Stephers,
you’re right, I should say something along the lines of “she strikes me as someone from circles where they fuck with people’s sexuality (and minds) from birth”. I don’t imply thereby that these people can’t be upright and/or truthful (even though I think they are intellectually and emotionally compromised, no matter what), but I had to agree with Rastus in this regard, especially after finding that connection between Barcelo/Barbelo, I very much doubt it is a coincidence, do you? You might not even be able to determine what happened to these people when meeting them in person, wouldn’t you agree? I really wonder what kind of a reaction you’d get from Jeanice if you’d ask her directly about the Barbelo thing, maybe you could do that if you get the opportunity some day?
If I’m wrong about her, of course I’m sorry about it.
Here’s another example, I know at this point that they love these shenanigans, they do it all the time: The founders of BioNTech, Ugur Sahin and his “wife” Oezlem Tuereci (I’m very confident, she’s a cross-dressing man, much more than with Jeanice, check this out e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWICe3vU_Jw). They might not be conventional transsexuals due to special treatments, maybe even pre-birth, but there is definitely something off. And here’s how they tell you: Their first company they called Ganymede (from Wikipedia: “The myth was a model for the Greek social custom of paiderastía, the romantic relationship between an adult male and an adolescent male.”) So, that’s what I believe they are. Also, I would speculate (!) that they come from a doenmeh background, since Atatuerk is quite comparable to them in terms of their role.
I agree that the tranny conundrum tends to be blown out of proportion (as per Ab, Fakeologist and so on), but there is definitely a lot to it and I believe it is central to their control scheme.
Now, what I think happens a lot with people from these circles is the following: they mostly grow up in J3wish (maybe even orthodox) families (like that girl from the Oprah show back then, even though I think they put her there for a specific purpose along the lines of what I describe in terms of invoking the goddess/shekhina) and grow to hate a lot about it, due to exposure to the outside world. In the end, they turn out to be opposed to orthodox practices, yet they still are attached to J3wish identity, due to most of their family and friends being from similar circles. Often (especially men) they fully return later on after having gotten a taste from the chaotic outside world. But these same J3ws, I believe (with a lot of thought and research put into it), often end up in these genuinely anti-J3wish institutions, that, funnily enough, are largely controlled by (supposedly secular) J3ws. Of course, in the big picture, the real controllers (people like Schn33rson, Viln4 G4on, Tzvi) know all this and concoct/instrumentalize it through J3ws (and cryptos) like K1ssinger, R0ckefeller, S0ros, Gates.
Rosicrucianism (and all its offshoots/connected cults like theosophy, anthroposophy, even wicca and druidism, I’d surmise) is very much anti-J3wish, just like its connected institutions like the UN, EU and thus probably even stuff like Fabian Socialism (I’m speculating here, but it makes a lot of sense to me), it’s rather covert at this point, but I believe it won’t be for much longer, since they’re setting Isr4el and Z1onism up for a big bang (that’s what I suspect anyways, we’ll see). Also, it’s a disdain of S3phardim (who I see more aligned with the UN factions and who make up most of the real big shots) for Ashk3n4zim (more Z10nist types) and probably vice versa. In any way, this is a lot more complicated than most people portray it to be, that’s why I’m writing all this stuff. I think no one who’s involved in these esoteric practices really knows what he’s doing and which influences ride him, so to say.
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And Jeanice put out a lot of great information, no doubt about it, I concur with most of what I’ve gone through so far.
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Strawberry fields forever! From the get-go I never liked their stuff, didn’t think they could sing a lick, and instinctively grouped them with Tinkerbell in the Peter Pan story. Both my sisters loved whatever it was. Don’t know why, just the way it hit me at the time.
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Great find, Rastus, thanks, these pictures make it definitive. Also check out his puffy eyes (https://www.thecosmicswitchboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Jeanice-Barcelo-Racey-in-Blue.jpg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvHGKZ_4Yno). This can be related to sodomy, see this article (https://johndenugent.com/swastika-crop-circle-very-not-fun-article-about-why-molesters-do-what-they-do-top-republican-goes-down-as-pedophile/), the original article by europeanknightsproject.com was purged, this was the only replication of it I could find now, the article starts in the comment section under “John de Nugent 4 weeks ago (edited)”, please just try and ignore his additions, I don’t think he’s even aware of what the top Nazi brass were involved in.
This stuff is hard to swallow on encountering it at first, but it’s absolutely necessary to delve into this, because sodomy (i.e. anal penetration) seems to be one of the most important mechanisms of old for mind control purposes. It’s connected to the Kundalini practices/serpent energy and you find references left and right in occult literature of all denominations, see especially “Light-bearers of Darkness by Inquire Within / Christina Stoddard”, who was rather high-up in the Stella Matutina, an order connected to the Golden Dawn. She suspects that masters of this mechanism can install a kind of controlling spirit through sodomic practices. Interestingly enough, the linked article above pretty much consists of an interview with Elana Freeland (here in an interview with yet another tranny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t36Vnvf0u_s), who is obviously involved in Rosicrucianism and might be a tranny as well, I’m not so sure about her, yet. I believe the Rose Cross (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Rose_Cross.png/220px-Rose_Cross.png) represents the anus, as the cross itself can be seen as a human’s lower part from behind, the cross section and rose above representing what in German is colloquially called “Rosette”, the anus. It’s uncanny. Also, the 33 can be seen as one man standing behind another (both is represented pictorially in the above article). Most lower initiates and private enthusiasts of all these different occult and esoteric orders of course aren’t aware of all this. So, I’d suggest that:
Exoterically, the rose is seen as a symbol for this and that, as described here for instance (https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/429563/jewish/The-Rose.htm). Yet, esoterically, it’s a symbol for the world of possibilities that opens up through ritual sodomy. It took me quite a few years to get to this conclusion, but I don’t feel like anyone’s gonna dissuade me from that anytime soon. 😀
Also, I believe at this point, that everything that’s going on in the large picture, is entirely a huge psychodrama with quite a specific aim, it’s just that pretty much no one knows what that specific aim is. It might be extermination of all unsound existence as per the (real) K4bb4list doctrine or an equally insane One-Love utopia as per the Rosicrucian paradigm, I don’t know. But I suggest everyone inspect their beliefs and aspirations and maybe compare it to what nature would be like without us oh so civilized and sophisticated philosopher folks.
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I’m not currently in an ideal place to type things on my computer but, briefly, let me share the link to the first hour of the call, which is available publicly and easily (to stream and / or download, whichever one prefers):
https://www.johnlebon.com/uncategorized/bonversations-ep-23-mark-tokarski-14-jun-2022-public-release/
The first hour of the call is where I try to squeeze in all of the most important information about the guest, what they do, and why listeners might like to go and look further into the guest’s work.
For PoM regulars it is definitely worth checking out.
Once again I thank Mark for taking the time to join me for the chat; the feedback I have received about the call so far has been overwhelmingly positive.
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don’t take scripted dialogs from TV series as something of any value. The writers always include some common sense narrative to keep the pretense of reality. But it is fiction. Autism is just a buzz word. Once you call it out, it will create autistic people everywhere. Without this word there would be just people. I know mothers claiming their children are autistic but they are just spoiled and lazy IMO. The autistic people in movies are as fictional as serial killers. Especially the idea of some kind of autistic genius is totally fictional.
If ultra sound could “cook” babies, it would also cook grownups, right? But it doesn’t. Maybe it does some harm anyway, we don’t know that. I’m not talking of the extreme forms which allow to make colored 3D pictures of unborn babies. That is nuts and completely unnecessary. But the normal ultra sound pictures allow to control the position and the growth of the fetus which now and then may be helpful so why not using it? There is no evidence that ultrasound used in scanning devices causes any harm to a living body. But it is very useful. Not just for babies. It’s not medicine. It’s a helpful device.
RFK ist the stuttering Kennedy, right? He works together with Reiner Füllmich in this Corona Comitee. I always wondered what his problem is. Some kind of brain damage for sure , maybe caused by vaccines, maybe he fall from the wrapping table as a baby. He’s otherwise a very intelligent person. He’s not really fighting vaccines. He knows though exactly what’s going on. He’s not different or worse from any other elite person.
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Barb,
Your reply seems heavy on speculative opining, and less on educating . . . The assertions you made were offered without any substance to support them. In fact, I suggest several of your statements may be unfounded.
For now, I will hone in on ultrasound. The premise of Mark’s (and JLB’s) interrogation was not with regard to “cooking” babies, but, rather, fetuses. Fetuses are grown in a liquid environment – completely different than babies, children, and adults growing once outside of the womb. Thus, the effects of ultrasound in utero may be vastly different than ultrasound of a living being not inhabiting water.
Without going into great detail, I hope you will explore the links below on acoustic cavitation that can occur from diagnostic ultrasound exposure. It is very important information to begin to grasp the potential adverse effects of ultrasound on growing cells/organs/tissue – especially in utero.
In a nutshell – in the case of fetal ultrasound – the growing fetus is subjected to sonoluminescence in an aqueous solution. As such, the fetus experiences the formation, growth and implosive collapse of bubbles in its liquid environment. This compression of bubbles during acoustic cavitation is akin to “getting the bends.” https://www.scubadivingearth.com/what-are-the-signs-and-symptoms-of-decompression-sickness/ As a young adult, I was a scuba diver, and we had to take this potential occurrence very seriously.
On a tangential (but still related) note . . . A distant cousin of mine worked for naval intelligence a couple decades ago. He was working in classified sonar projects in the ocean. The story I was told by family members is that he ended up being overwhelmed with guilt because marine mammals were dying due to experiments with which he was involved. Soon after he expressed these concerns to colleagues, he was found dead in his car (carbon monoxide poisoning). It was assumed by my family that he was actually suicided.
My point being – with all that said – ultrasound as a diagnostic device (sonography) may have value (and potentially therapeutic applications); but we must keep in mind that it can also be used as an acoustic weapon. Similarly, smart phones can be helpful with regard to communication, entertainment, and information gathering – but they are also radiological weapons.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1995002/
Click to access philtrans99335.pdf
Click to access Lecture6-US.pdf
https://reset.me/story/how-ultrasound-could-harm-your-baby/
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On RFK Jr and his speech issue . . . He does not stutter. He has a condition called spasmodic dysphonia (cause unknown, but seems related to damaged basal ganglia).
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5296702&page=1
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/spasmodic-dysphonia
Along the lines of what MT was suggesting about Bobby Jr. being a figure of mass sympathy, it is my opinion that when people listen to him – because of his vulnerable-sounding voice – it serves to enhance his credibility, cementing trust from listeners. I saw a similar instance of this induction (exploitation) of pathos with a child (seeming to have a vocal disorder like spasmodic dysphonia) involved in the Uvalde psyop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IngGxpREl0.
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Barbm124-
Your comment is both uninformed and therefore illogical, sorry to say. Perhaps you did not read Jim West’s article, which was linked to above by Stephers. https://townsendletter.com/April2017/ultrasound0417_3.html and, https://townsendletter.com/April2017/ultrasound0417_4.html
I am linking to page 3 and 4 of the article, to get right to the point of human studies (as contrasted with animal studies, which clearly pointed to damage that remained “unexplored”, which is the usual industry MO) demonstrating significant DUS (diagnostic unltrasound) damage to DNA and tissue. Keep in mind that Jim’s article in Townsend Letter is merely a quick summation of the indisputable DUS damage to human tissue clearly shown in a number of meticulous Chinese studies, studies that have effectively been hidden from view. Intentionally so, one must presume.
You said, “If ultra sound could “cook” babies, it would also cook grownups, right? But it doesn’t. Maybe it does some harm anyway, we don’t know that.” Well, sticking with your terminology, it does “cook” babies (see above), and it also does “cook” grownups. However, what would you say would be the magnitude of damage done to a developing embryo that is subjected to repeated DUS assaults, compared to the damage done to a physically mature adult?
Jim asks the question this way “What could be a more clear and undeniable damnation of DUS? Why are clinicians instructed to expose the fetus to this controversial form of radiation during early gestation, during a period of rapid cellular division, of well-known vulnerability to ultrasound? Why is DUS routinely advocated for determination of pregnancy, thereby ensuring exposure to any existing zygote?”
From page 3 of Jim’s article:
“The CHS are simple. Pregnant women, volunteering for abortion, were carefully selected and then exposed to controlled ultrasound sessions, using standard clinical devices at various intensity settings and exposure durations. Abortive matter was examined via state-of-the-art technology, e.g., electron microscopy, flow cytometry, and various biochemical analyses (immuno- and histo-). The results were compared against the results of sham-exposed pregnant women (maternal-fetal pairs exposed at zero intensity).
“Chinese scientists measured damage to the fetal brain, kidney, cornea, chorionic villi, and immune system. They determined that low exposure is able to damage the human fetus, ovum, and embryo.”
From page 4:
“J. Zhang (2002) is the amazing electrophoresis study, a human in utero exposure study. The study is unknown and never discussed, like nearly all of the CHS, despite being published in pristine English and in modern scientific format.56 The study finds DNA fragmentation in the chorionic villi caused by low intensity DUS at only 10 minutes exposure.
“The study’s results are so strong that we could assume possible damage at less than 10 minutes. Given that clinical sessions are conducted at much higher intensities, a simple extrapolation to the clinical scenario could indicate damage within seconds, not minutes. The chorionic villi comprise the essential nutrient-waste exchange apparatus between mother and fetus.”
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BarbM – I trust you will take Stephers and OregonMatt seriously, as they do back their arguments with hard data. It is very possible you are wrong about Ultrasound and fetuses.
Regarding autism, it is a recent creation of doubt for me as to its existence. As noted in the blog post, the following passage from Dr. Peter Breggins should be heeded:
The problem in general with psychiatry is that they vote illnesses up or down, but do not have any evidence of their reality other than a list of symptoms that can change in people over time. Teenagers are much more likely to be ADD or even bipolar than more mature individuals, but there is no physical test to support the diagnoses. As a profession, psychiatry is reduced to pill dispensing, doing immense harm to people who could use some real therapy.
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I agree it’s open to doubt. I have been very bought in on the huge spike in autism, maybe just because of the attraction that stories of imminent societal doom exercise on the imagination. And the perfidy of elites. But it’s all too possible that the self-interest of Pharma and psychiatrists drives the huge spike in cases. Since their tests are all subjective, and can probably be gamed to draw in more and more marginal “cases.”
At a higher level (above Pharma and psychiatry) maybe some social planners are motivated by dysgenicist goals to put children on psych drugs, and just using profit to puppeteer their cousins lower down the pyramid.
And it may be that vaccine damage (or ultrasound) is very real, but that autism is a red herring. “AMidWesternDoctor” on Substack had a piece recently with photo evidence of how people a few generations back had less “crooked smiles” or asymmetrical drooping eyelids, misaligned eyes, etc.
Actually the sample used celebs for some of the damaged moderns, which rather calls into question the idea that they’re “of the families,” at least of any truly elite families. I’ll try to find a link later, I’m especially curious what Barb would say about those photos…
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almost 100% of pregnancies everywhere in the world use ultrasound to monitor the pregnancy. Don’t you think that even a slight danger would monitor itself in damages and that would be very present? Since that is not the case, I consider ultra sound as useful and not dangerous. I don’t know of any changes in the quality of births after the introduction of ultrasound. At least not of any negative changes.
“Chinese scientists measured damage”: well, they also invented Corona, right? And how do you measure damages? Fever? broken Bones? Low IQ in later life? Makes no sense to me. And it would be very easy to reproduce the damage since you can use the same amount of ultra sound any time on living tissue or whatever and monitor any changes. It should work every time. Or just exceed the level to demonstrate the danger. Nothing like this was ever demonstrated. Vaccines are much more harder to monitor and still we know they do harm.
As for scuba divers, do you know that one of the “inventors” of the modern scuba diving, the famous Jacques Cousteau never needed any decompression time? Remember the movie “The Deep”. Nick Nolte always just came out of the water after diving. Maybe if you use some gas mixtures instead of compressed air. But it is digression. If there was any danger in ultrasound it would be very visible. After they started to sell Contergan the damage was immediately visible.
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Your comment is amazing. Everything you say here, by virtue of how you have twisted or ignored clear information presented re documented fetal damage, actually stands as confirmation of the damage, which has been graphically spelled out in the comments above.
What will be the results of REPEATED episodes of DNA fragmentation and other cellular damage to the fetus, when we view events throughout childhood and beyond? You’re right. The fetus doesn’t usually just die immediately, nor does the child drop dead at age 1 or age 20. The effects of the damage done to many and unknown regions of the developing fetus, not to mention the chorionic villi, which “comprise the essential nutrient-waste exchange apparatus between mother and fetus”, will obviously be manifested in many different ways in the life of the organism….not only expressed as a single “disease” symptom because of one particular DUS insult, but unforeseen and countless effects that will accumulate due to the need for DUS damaged systems to cooperate within the organism.
Not what you intended, but these two quotes from your comment offer dramatic support for understanding DUS damage.
“almost 100% of pregnancies everywhere in the world use ultrasound to monitor the pregnancy”
“If there was any danger in ultrasound it would be very visible”
Indeed, it is very visible.
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Shock waves coming to a fetus near you . . . if they have not already . . .
“Global Fetal & Neonatal Monitoring Devices Industry 2020-2025 – Ultrasound and Fetal Dopplers Markets to Reach $1.6B and $1.7B by 2025, respectively”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/global-fetal-neonatal-monitoring-devices-120800729.html
The global market for fetal and neonatal monitors should grow from $4.8 billion in 2020 to $6.4 billion by 2025, at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 6.1% for the period of 2020-2025.
Fetal ultrasound market as a segment should grow from $1.2 billion in 2020 to $1.6 billion by 2025 at a CAGR of 5.7% through 2025.
Fetal Dopplers market as a segment should grow from $1.2 billion in 2020 to $1.7 billion by 2025 at a CAGR of 6.8% through 2025.
The global reduction of stillbirths and neonatal mortality is one the United Nations’ Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs).
Come on . . . let’s get real on fetal monitoring . . . it has very little – perhaps nothing – to do with the health and safety of fetuses and babies. Don’t even get me started on the potential hazards of fetal Doppler . . . We are wading into deep, dark waters when it comes to fetal monitoring and accompanying acoustic trauma (mainly, acoustic cavitation – which is inextricably linked to brain damage, with vaccines being the secondary insult ~ the one-two punch). As I said before, this assault on human babies is complex and layers deep.
“Nanobubbles, cavitation, shock waves and traumatic brain injury”
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2016/CP/C6CP06704B
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When I published my piece on remote biohacking in August 2020 (https://pieceofmindful.com/2020/08/28/mass-zombification-via-remote-biohacking-the-farce-awakens/), I neglected to mention in this paragraph that ultrasound also primes the pump, so to speak, in opening the blood brain barrier (https://dspace.aus.edu:8443/xmlui/handle/11073/21306?show=full):
Many barriers have been broken when it comes to this manufactured pandemic crisis. One in particular, is the Blood-Brain Barrier (BBB). I surmise that the controllers have been synergistically priming the pump for years, breaching the permeability barrier to our brains through the implementation of toxic-inducing methods — including pharmaceuticals, vaccines, GMOs, fluoride, mercury fillings, geoengineering, aluminum and other heavy metals (via vaccines and geoengineering), cyanide, pesticides, artificial sweeteners, polysorbate 80, wireless technology/pulsed EMFs, scalar technology (i.e. – HAARP), microplastics, and microwaved food. The consolidation of this toxic soup of tools in the technocratic tool belt has seemingly culminated in the grand biohack (packaged within a biosecurity threat vehicle) that we are currently experiencing. For those who may still consider that 5G is the main culprit of the illness and dis-ease that we are witnessing and experiencing in 2020 (encompassed within “Operation Human Biohack”) — I perceive 5G as merely an accomplice, and as such, may be serving as an additional red herring. I think we need to keep our eye on the entire covert biohacking program.
Moving forward, as we see the emergence of brain-machine interface technologies, it seems ultrasound (combined with neural dust) may be a crucial component: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.2196v1.pdf and https://www2.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2018/EECS-2018-146.pdf.
Lastly, ultrasound (and its acoustic cavitation effects) is applicable to remote excitation of the brain (circling us back to remote biohacking): https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0003511&type=printable.
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Barb,
Speaking of the NRDC . . . Even the NRDC admits to adverse effects on marine mammals induced by acoustic technology (sonar~ultrasound).
“Sonic Sea: Impacts of Noise on Marine Mammals”
Click to access IFAW_OceanNoiseReport_WEB_spreads.pdf
The primary culprit was mid-frequency active sonar, one of the Navy’s primary means of submarine detection, which puts out high-intensity sound that is acutely alarming to marine life. Often used during the Cold War to track a deep-sea submarine threat, mid-frequency sonar is increasingly used to scan shallower environments for submarines that are able to operate in most coastal waters.
Necropsies of beaked whales stranded in the Bahamas in 2000 clearly revealed that the animals had suffered acoustic trauma resulting in hemorrhaging around the brain, in the inner ears, and in the acoustic fats located in the head that are involved in sound transmission. Analysis of beaked whales that stranded during the 2002 Canary Islands episode found acute systemic micro-hemorrhages and gas and fat emboli.
These findings are consistent with a scenario in which the whales experience such stress from the sonar blasts that they rapidly change their diving to escape them — too rapidly, in fact, to the extent that they suffer hemorrhaging and physical trauma akin to ‘the bends,’ or decompression sickness. Subsequent studies have only underscored this conclusion.
Note: Although the report linked above attributes decompression sickness in whales to their rapid diving pattern (implying escape from the sonar blasts/shock waves), it may be even more likely – as I had previously explained – that the very action of the shock wave directly induced ‘the bends.’ I would need to see studies evidencing that the whales do, indeed, proceed to rapidly ascend or descend following sonar blasts.
Again, my point being (and placing autism aside for the moment), do you genuinely believe that sonar/ultrasound can adversely effect marine mammals in the seas (now admitted to be true – following the tragic, untimely death of my distant cousin who was well aware of this before it was publicly revealed), yet human fetuses in utero (mimicking the whales’ aqueous environment) remain completely unharmed?
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Nice pivot. Are you a robot? I’m serious.
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Steve,
Ha ha. Nah. Just feeling pivotal today . . . 🙂
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Pivotal or Pirouettical?
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OM,
Hmmmmm. I did not take well to ballet when growing up. But, if you are implying that I presently dance with dark matter (see link below) – in this case, more literally, dark matters – then, you may not be wrong (?) . . . 🙂
https://p-astro.blogspot.com
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“Pirouettical Astrophysics”….and here I thought that I’d invented the word on the spot.
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Matt,
If it’s any consolation, identifying your word online was not the simplest task. I think you would be hard-pressed, though, finding the use of “feeling pivotal” anywhere. It was so poetically licensual of me (wink, wink). Thanks for playing along! 🙂
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Ok, we can give you your “poetic licensualness”, but the search gurus keep directing to licentiousness.
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OM,
Oh, I may be sensual (and licensual), but never licentious. No, no, no. 🙂
https://giphy.com/gifs/angietribecatbs-l46CtxWIhRbDN9ISk
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Barb, you obviously you did not read the Townsend Letter article. The studies are not just from China.
US and European scientists also found damage from prenatal ultrasound occurring after mere seconds of exposure.
Infant and maternal damage are actually common nowadays, however, they are not reported as from ultrasound — just as over 1,000 young pro athletes having heart attacks on the field in the last two years are not publicly suspected of being caused by the COVID vaccine.
If you were a doctor would you admit to your patients that you fried their newborns in utero? You would have tremendous conflict of interest and liability — not only from the parents’ lawyers, but from the medical industry, which is dominated by medical product manufacturers. These manufacturers also dominate the military, and medicine is a sub-agency of the military agencies. FDA evolved with and from the Marine Medical Corp. The CDC evolved from the Army pesticide application agency. Etc.
Despite tons of science, there is no anti-ultrasound activism. There is little public conversation as there is for vaccines. Think about that for a minute.
https://harvoa-med.blogspot.com/2019/08/vaut.html
Maternal-fetal infection is rampant nowadays, when supposedly Semmelweis nearly eliminated it from births in 1847. Amazingly, the chorioamnionitis paradigm (infectious) was established without finding any germs present.
https://harvoa-med.blogspot.com/2020/10/chor.html
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I found the “crooked smile” photos mentioned above, let’s see if these post. Of course this isn’t a random sample of old and modern faces, but I suspect this kind of damage (from vaccines, ultrasound, pharmaceuticals, industrial food, or whatever) is more common today.
(For full article see amidwesterndoctor.substack.com and his recent article on Justin Bieber. FWIW I’m with An that he probably injected some numbing agent – the odds are too astronomical against a high profile figure getting so blatantly “vax injured.” When he probably didn’t even get the vax, tho who knows.)
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*with Ab
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TimR,
On “crooked smile” photos . . . this is incredibly pseudo-scientific, in my opinion. We would have to see all of these individuals – the random babies/kids, and the celebs in the bottom row, in many photos and in full motion (actual moving footage) to make any genuine determination. These still photos tell us nothing (and of course, can be doctored/CGId).
Since I am not familiar with most of the celebs presented here, I will at least take Patrick Dempsey (3rd from left in b&w), for example. Just google him in “images” and watch plenty of footage of him – no hint of a crooked smile that I can detect.
I have plenty of photos of me and my family in which our smiles or eyes are off-center/asymmetrical because we are caught in some odd moment. In fact, my husband will say something like “that’s not a good look for you.” Well, the same goes for these individuals. My sense is that they were caught in some odd moment in which their smile was off kilter.
I think this type of conspiracy chat is intended to muddy the waters, and does so little, if anything, to aid in uncovering the real dangers of vaccines, pharmaceuticals, ultrasound, EMFs/WiFi, engineered nanotech, fluoride, GMOs, and all of the additional insults that are crimes against humanity.
On Justin Bieber . . . That video – in my relatively (and increasingly) informed opinion – was a quintessential presentation of advanced CGI/GAN technology. I am planning an upcoming post on this technology. It is a huge learning curve for me, but something I have been exploring over the past few years. I highly recommend POM readers become educated on it because we are going to be seeing a whole lot more of it being utilized – mostly to explain something or someone as being “real.” It is applied to weaponized narrative, and people cannot tell the difference between seeing a real face, and a technologically augmented face. In the event that I am on the right track, Bieber is in on the take.
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TimR,
Since you also mentioned drooping eyelids . . . I will put forth – anecdotally speaking – that I have one significantly drooped eyelid. My eyes were perfectly shaped and formed, as well as my eyelids, throughout my childhood and adult life until 15 years ago, when I was given psychotropic drugs (against my will). While only on the pharmaceuticals (a toxic cocktail) for less than a month, I suffered neurological damage – resulting in some permanent injury – unfortunately, including the one drooping eyelid. My drooping eyelid (ptosis https://www.aao.org/eye-health/diseases/what-is-ptosis) is noticeable in nearly every photo of me, and is a sensitive concern of mine. That said, I would never have surgery for it, as it is a purely aesthetic issue, not affecting my vision in any way. So, while anecdotal, it is my opinion that pharmaceuticals (and “vaccines”) can directly cause damage resulting in ptosis.
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“My incredible opinion” with Forrest Maready. That’s where the crooked face theory got its start, as far as I know. Forrest also wrote a book about polio called “The moth in the iron lung”, in which he collates a lot of good material showing the dangers and potential damages of chemicals, including DDT. Forrest then proceeds to lose all credibility by claiming that poisons did their part in weakening the body and the digestive system, which then allowed the dirty rotten virus to “migrate” (when ingested) to the nearest geographical location in the body, a la the spinal cord. Fancy that.
He forgot to check up on the original polio papers, wherein Landsteiner and Popper actually proved there was no contagious entity involved in polio (i.e. no virus), even though they claimed otherwise.
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OM,
To riff off of your comment, here is Maready’s short presentation of his “crooked theory”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WXRh6T_ET8. I would hope that POM readers can see through some of the deception. Note that he offers nothing to substantiate that crooked smiles (which I concur with TimR can be a real phenomenon) are a direct result of the “one” cause he is attempting to prove. It comes off as a sleight of hand trick. In fact, he exudes an air of an illusionist/magician. His presentation comes off as downright cheesy, and by its very nature, obscures the seriousness of the crimes being perpetuated in the name of medicine and science.
He offers us some truth on the front end, but then, with very little evidence presented, he leans heavily into misdirection (and irksome dramatic flair) with a narrative of infection, inflammation, and auto-immune disease. This is limited hangout/gatekeeping 101. Maready speaks to brain injury, which if viewed from a non-mythological perspective can most likely be better explained by cavitation, which I referenced with respect to acoustic cavitation resulting from sonar/ultrasound.
Cavitation and brain injury go hand-in-hand: https://www.cns.umass.edu/news-events/news/new-perspective-cavitation-and-traumatic-brain-injury. Further, I surmise cavitation is the missing link in nearly all of the conditions he names. In the case of insults from vaccines and toxic pharmaceuticals, cavitation works synergistically as a one-two punch with aluminum (and other heavy metals – as well as engineered nanotech/2D metamaterials!) being the secondary assault (as I previously asserted). No virus, nor infection required. No white blood cells involved.
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TimR,
Following is technology showcased in 2014 to give you a sense of how simple (and potentially deceiving) this CGI technology is: https://www.popsci.com/dad-makes-awesome-cgi-videos-his-son/. Peruse through the short clips of this young boy in his natural settings.
Here is a more recent depiction from the same CGI technician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjlLcHqMX4Y. And another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS_4l3TvOgY. One more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSIeuVSDTnM. Speaking of eyes . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxM6rYBNxF0.
I think you get the gist . . .
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You could certainly be right about CGI for Bieber. An injectable numbing agent was my best guess based on how authentic it would look and how easy, and that it could be used for public appearances too. But it’s just a guess. The main point to me is that his facial paralysis too perfectly feeds into the “anti-vax” narrative, and hence feeds the schism between believers (or beliebers…) and non-believers.
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Thanks Stephers.
I agree these photos are “pseudo scientific,” I said it in my post as well. I just think it’s a real phenomenon. Some artifact of modern society, whether intentional or not – I don’t think “primitives” suffered from this, just like they didn’t suffer from obesity, diabetes, and most chronic illnesses at our rates.
As you said, you yourself had this kind of facial signaling effect from a pharmaceutical – but you think it’s not happening, from one cause or another, in thousands of children? I’ve seen it in person on occasion at events I work at – children whose moms tell them to “smile” and they struggle to raise both sides of their face.
Here’s another sample mwd gave – celebs with drifting eyes. What’s interesting to me is, I had noticed this with that one at far right, but only subconsciously – it gives him a subtly off putting vibe, probably explains the kinds of roles he’s cast in.
I’ve also noticed celebs with crowded, misaligned teeth. Now I have that in my lower teeth, but “primitives” wouldn’t under normal conditions (see Weston Price.) Apparently the “families,” or their celeb breeding programs, need to get their act together…
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TimR,
Following is a relevant article on lazy/drifting eyes that includes Paris Hilton and Ryan Gosling (both shown in the photos you linked above): https://nedhardy.com/2022/02/13/ryan-gosling-eye/.
I absolutely concur with you (although we do not know the precise cause/s) that children are exhibiting facial asymmetries – and in a greater proportion/rate than observed in previous decades/centuries. However, this observance is being conflated, in my opinion, with broad strokes of pseudo-scientific assumptions/claims. As you implied, crowded/misaligned teeth is rampant as well. Yes, Weston Price is the best resource in this regard.
My question to you is if you are indeed seeing children in your own life with facial asymmetries (such as crooked smiles), why do you question autism as being a real phenomenon? Anecdotally speaking, I have worked (as a volunteer in a special needs school, and professionally in my healing practice) with many children diagnosed with autism, and nearly all of them exhibit facial asymmetry – with crowded/misaligned teeth being a prominent feature, and lazy/shifting eyes second to that. It was something I noticed very early on.
To clarify, my point before was not to discount that crooked smiles/facial asymmetry is a real phenomenon, but rather, to express that the photos and narratives presented in conspiracy-leaning narratives may be misrepresentative of genuine cases. This confounding scenario is reminiscent of manufactured stories in the alternative media of COVID vax-injured individuals (falsified), while real people (not represented in the news/alt media, nor reported to VAERS) are absolutely being harmed/maimed. I have seen this personally with close friends and family (five of my close friends my age having sustained heart attacks post-vax, with one of my older cousins – by marriage – having died shortly after her booster shot).
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It sounds like we don’t disagree on much then, I may have misread some of your comments. Autism may be on the rise, may even be hugely spiking as some graphs show – I’m not sure. I was just expressing above that I’m newly open to the idea that the profit drive of the psychiatry profession and pharma (and broader agenda to have everyone medicalized and drugged), could be pushing the case count far above what it “really” may be. Open question for me at this time.
Thanks for the links and background on Maready, I’m not familiar with him.
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medical studies are like statistics: can’t be trusted. Everyone should understand it by now. At least since corona. I’m 100% sure no dolphin will be harmed being checked with a human ultrasonic device. Of course sound waves can be dangerous. Depends on the level or dynamic (range between the lowest and the highest level). But that is not the point, or is it? Almost every living human was being checked with ultrasonic before he was born. Claiming that there is danger in it is like claiming that there is danger in using diapers. Besides, nobody is forced to use ultrasonic, at least not to my knowledge as nobody is forced to use diapers. There is no public protest because there is no danger in it. Etc. As this topic obviously got out of control, I’ll leave it at it.
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Barb,
Your statement: Claiming that there is danger in it [fetal ultrasound] is like claiming that there is danger in using diapers.
Yup. Absolutely correct. Diapers are indeed incredibly toxic. There are dangers in using commercial disposable diapers.
https://wholesomechildren.com/toxic-chemicals-in-disposable-diapers/
https://healthwyze.org/reports/475-toxins-in-disposable-diapers-dioxin-and-sodium-polyacrylate
https://www.alternet.org/2014/02/toxic-diapers-your-childs-disposable-diapers-contain-endocrine-disruptors/
This is fairly common knowledge. There is plenty more information that can be easily surfaced and referenced.
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Barb,
To add before I sign off for the night . . . Virology is pure, fraudulent hogwash (based on pseudo-science). Most of us here can agree on that. However, for the most part, toxicology is based on sound science, and if anything, it is highly under valued. The two cannot, and should not, be conflated.
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What better alternative to diapers is there? Seriously.
Even toxicology is not what we once learned. For instance there is no antidote (think alcohol). And everything can be poisonous. Depends on the amount and your ability to build enzymes in time. Virology is a direct derivative from the antidote theory. Until the 50-s after the war a virus was a poisonous protein which somehow could replicate and spread. Then they found out that living matter needs nucleic acid to reproduce and since proteins don’t have it, they simply changed the narrative and redefined virus as somehow broken DNA and as in that time computer became popular they started to talk in terms of genetic “Code”. The rest is history. What you have in mind is malnutrition which exists in different forms of course.
https://odysee.com/@billywats0n:1/andrew-kaufman-interview-way-of-water:f
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Barb,
On diapers . . . With the exception of a handful of times in the summer wearing chemical-laden swim diapers, my children never wore toxic diapers as infants/babies/toddlers. Presently, there are a plethora of natural alternatives to commercial disposable diapers – the best being reusable “nappies” https://mommyandlove.com/organic-reusable-nappies/ (which I found to be cumbersome over time, and inconvenient when traveling) – but this list includes disposables that are much less toxic: https://www.whichdiapersarethebest.com/non-toxic-diapers/. I did not have this many choices when my girls were young, but we made do.
*I should add that when our children were young (still in diapers), we were financially unstable (nearly lost our home and belongings due to massive debt and predatory creditors); but we still made it work – choosing healthier alternatives, including chemical-free diapers.
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this reusable nappies have to be washed and really good washed, right? Which you hardly can do without a laundry mashine and lots of detergents. Also lots of water and electrical power. And they don’t absorb as good as diapers do, so how can this be better for your baby or for the environment? Diapers dissolve pretty good in the garbage places. The crap inside helps with that. We have a garbage mask problem now, since the masks just lie everywhere and don’t dissolve as fast but we never had a garbage diapers problem. And by the way, it is not true, that plastic stays for ever. UV dissolves everything given some time. Just let a plastic bag lie in the sun for a few months. It will be gone then. Pulverized.
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Barb,
I think you completely missed the point. The save the environment “green” narrative (mostly myth-making) is a misdirect.
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the point was that there is no better alternative to diapers.
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On the Kaufman discussion with Billy Watson . . .
Was there a main takeaway from that conversation that you would like to share? I just watched their dialogue, and learned nothing new from it. This is information I was teaching to kids in Guatemala 10 years ago (RE: cymatics, water crystals, and Emoto).
I am happy to save you the $67 that Kaufman is charging for his water workshop (https://checkout.terrainthefilm.com/the-way-of-water?_kx=mE18iPquC4VVUXA8VZDHxsOO8xivL18j7n_P8N2XtVNWbdlQ880y_Ck_PVv_fFyI.UpXyYd) if you are compelled to learn more about the 4th phase of water and the benefits of healthy hydration.
In fact, you can just go online yourself and find plentiful resources (for free). I can offer some search terms and resources if you’d like. Happy to do so.
Keep in mind that Veda Austin and Dolf Zantinge (Kaufman’s newest colleagues co-presenting in his workshop) are intimately linked with the UN SDGs: https://www.waterinno.com/who-we-are. Also see the Hydration Foundation (collaborating with Austin and Zantinge) if you want to begin to grasp the ripple effect of the “way of water”: https://www.waterinno.com/people-bio/gina-bria. Their way may not be heading the way you think it is . . . It may lead people right to the Global Brain agenda: https://www.waterinno.com/people-bio/natalia-vega-berry. I have more questions than answers, but I suggest being on your toes with this “way of water” and hydration initiative.
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BarbM –
The photos I posted are not “evidence” of any real sort of course (except for the celebs, that’s evidence they’re “damaged” just like the regular public.) We don’t have a definitive study that I’m aware of, that facial asymmetries are much more prevalent than in previous generations. But it seems logical based on how many other chronic illnesses we have that untouched tribes don’t/ didn’t have. And I’ve seen it in children today at what seems a higher rate than when I was a child. Do you dismiss this in your general panglossian way – moderns are no worse off than their an ancestors, maybe even healthier, etc?
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look at people on old pictures like from the 19-th century. They don’t look as good as modern people IMO. It’s because of malnutrition and bad life conditions back then. The elite people didn’t live healthier back then too eating too much of the “good” stuff, right? And they had the inbreeding problem too. It is just now that even poor people could have a healthy life if they just wanted it. Celebs are actors, pictures are manipulated now as they never were before. There is no such thing as untouched tribes anymore. And they would have the inbreeding problem too. The best thing is if people with different roots come together. They then have the most pretty children even if the parents aren’t that pretty. It’s because the genetic pool or whatever you call it, the chromosomes, the alleles get back what they lost due to inbreeding, which always happens in a closed society. But this area isn’t really being researched yet.
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Some good points there, you may be right that moderns have more access to decent nutrition than their forebears, even allowing for chemicals etc. And especially if they are discriminating in their choices. And yes the wealthy of yesteryear were early examples of gout, obesity, diabetes, etc that the poor later got as well. Primitives were another matter though, very healthy diets aside from maybe the risk of food scarcity in droughts and things.
I don’t think they’re doing CGI on Ryan Gosling’s eyes though, I draw the line there..
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TimR,
In addition to Ryan Gosling (noted in the article I linked above), there are reports of numerous celebrities with wonky eyes (due to conditions such as amblyopia and strabismus, relating to sixth cranial nerve damage):
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/18690706-the-eyes-have-it-celebrities-with-wonky-eyes
https://www.ranker.com/list/celebrities-with-strabismus/celebrity-lists
https://nextluxury.com/entertainment/celebrities-with-lazy-eye/
https://stylinggo.com/celebrities-with-lazy-eyes/
https://www.emedicinehealth.com/amblyopia_lazy_eye/article_em.htm
https://www.pinpointeyes.com/what-causes-strabismus/
https://www.aao.org/disease-review/strabismus-sixth-nerve-palsy
Hmmmm. Who knew there was a Knights Templar Eye Foundation (noted in the sixth nerve palsy article above)?! https://www.ktef.org
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Meanwhile, on crooked smiles . . .
The one Hollywood actor whom I absolutely gush over is Milo Ventimiglia: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/a23280093/milo-ventimiglia-mouth-crooked/. He is super hot. Just bein’ real.
In any case, you can see clearly his crooked smile here (not CGI): https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2017_25/1222772/milo-ventimiglia-today-tease-001-170619.jpg.
When watching him on TV, it is his naturally lopsided lip that makes him so endearingly adorable, in my opinion. And I think he is a very talented actor to boot.
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Interesting. I guess it could actually support the idea that they’re all “of the families,” if someone wanted to say it’s due to a shared, overly small gene pool.
On your celebrity crush one, I wonder if part of the appeal is that it’s like having a built-in iconic identifier – the way some big celebrities artificially have distinctive glasses, hairstyles, facial hair. Sort of a branding thing that turns them into a living cartoon.
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