Stephers’ post from 2022, Confessions of an Engineered Nanoparticle, is heating up again, so that gives me time to relax and do what I love doing, repeating myself. Again. Stephers was upset with me when she left here, and we’ve not communicated since. I won’t speak for her other than to say that her writing, and that of her friend Alison McDowell, brought in many new readers, and also blew right by me. I was too dense-packed to grasp it all. I think it safe to say that the new readers, Stephers, Allison and me all have world views, and mine are not in harmony with theirs. But I made it clear to Stephers that she was free to continue writing here. She chose a different path, and I wish her success.
The video above, from 1963, is to me some of the most obvious evidence around that Paul McCartney was actually two people, a set of identical twins. The man singing above is “original” Paul, and his brother is Mike. Both were born in 1942 and are currently 81 years of age. Mike’s birthday was changed to 1/7/44, or “88”. I am surprised now how dominant Mike was in the early days, playing prominently in their movies. But live performances were another matter, as Paul is a lefty, Mike a righty. After they quit live performances, they did videos, and for that placed Mike behind a piano, keyboard unseen. I think in the intervening years, Mike has mastered left handed bass and guitar, as he seemed comfortable on stage in past years.
The two, Mike and Paul, stepped in for each other up to and through the Wings days, and in the movie Give My Regards to Broadstreet. But their looks grew apart, and it became obvious they were not the same person. Paul was retired from view, and Mike, the better stage performer, became full-time Paul.
Below are early photos of the two. They are said to be the same person. They are not. That’s Mike (Macca) on the left, Paul on the right.
Even then I can look and see two different people. I did a face split on the two some years back, and am thankful I have saved all of this work, as I don’t want to do it again.
My goodness is that close! You can see why they were able to (almost) pull this off. Paul on the right has eyebrows that wrap over and down. Mike on the left has eyebrows that don’t dip as far down. Look at the placement of the end of the brows, almost at pupil level for Paul on the right, and maybe an inch above the pupil for Mike on the left. Notice ear placement too. That’s not as dependable as other features due to distortion that can be caused by head angles, but those angles look very much the same to me. Paul’s nose is pudgier and anyway, they don’t quite align. The two sets of lips are quite a bit higher for Paul, and his chin is just a tad longer.
I did more work on this back then, so bear with me. John Haliday turned up in a YouTube video, supposedly the caretaker of the McCartney home in their youth. What I more suspect is that he was living there, possibly out of need, or maybe he inherited the place. I grabbed his face from that video.
I would guess him to be mid-seventies at that time, but birth dates are murky business in Intel circles. The twins were born on June 18, 1942, as I see it (currently 81), and Mike’s birthday was altered to 1/7/44, or double eights. Below is a montage of the two compared to their closer-to-present day counterparts.
That’s Macca (Mike) in the top row and Paul in the lower row as Halliday, and in 1959. They both line up very well. There were/are two Paul’s.
I will stop with the photos now. I am more interested in several facets of their abilities and personalities.
Musical abilities: At the beginning of the Beatles, they toured performing maybe two dozen songs. It never varied. Even as they came out with new albums, they continued with the same songs in live performances, never adding newer songs to the mix. Mike Williams, the guy who is all Billy Shears all the time, thinks it is because they did not know how to play those newer songs. They had to stick to the few they knew.
Both Paul and Mike were very good singers. Paul famously did Till There Was You (up above) playing left-handed bass, and Yesterday on the Ed Sullivan Show, playing left-handed guitar. Mike was right-handed, and so in the early days they put him behind a piano (keys usually hidden), but I think over time he has learned to play guitar and bass left-handed. I have seen him perform LH, and he seemed quite comfortable. It’s entirely plausible. Mike has been a very good stage performer over time, while Paul, more a crooner, seems to need to be sitting to turn in an effective performance, eyes darting and head bobbing away.
What gives me cause to wonder is that when one appeared in public, the other had to be closeted. That was done very well – at no time have two of them been seen in public save perhaps at a gathering for Dhani Harrison.
In case you don’t yet see it, that is Paul on the left, next to Dhani, and Mike on the right. They are dressed alike, and each sporting an identical hair piece. It can be no other way.
Composing abilities: For those who think Paul wrote the song Yesterday, I have to ask, which one wrote it? For a time early on both fake-dated Jane Asher, whose mother Margaret (nee Eliot) Asher was a music professor at the Guildhall School in London. “Paul” is said to have moved into the Asher household. I suspect there was a song-writing team, and that they met there and trained the Beatles. George Martin, Margaret’s star pupil, was surely there too.
Mike Williams has done a yeoman’s task on the group, and I only regret that he falls for (or is asked to fall for) the idea that original Paul died and was replaced by lookalike Billy Shears. That ‘s nonsense, as the death of Paul is but misdirection. It sends us away from the obvious question, are these twins?
But beyond that, Williams, musically known as Sage of Quay, does very fine work. In one of his videos (I think this one) he devotes a great deal of time and effort in reconstructing the time around the production of the album Rubber Soul. The Beatles are said to have written, arranged, and recorded all of the songs on that album in a very compressed time frame. There was not nearly enough time, according to MW. He thinks that while the group was on extended holiday after a long concert tour, George Martin brought in professional musicians to lay down the instrumental tracks for the songs already written by an apparently new (and more advanced) composing team. The Beatles then laid down the vocal tracks. That’s not nothing, as they harmonized well, but they did not write, arrange, or play the instruments behind the songs. (MW also traces the origins of the songs Yesterday and Hey Jude to Italian music. There are stunning similarities. His work, BS aside, is well worth a look.)
MW thinks that by the time of the White Album the group was indeed performing original material. Maybe so, but why risk it? They had a proven formula for success, and no one questioned it. (The Rooftop Concert was most likely lip synced. There would be no other reason to put them out of sight while performing.)
Bigger picture stuff: The Beatles were backed by some of the best musicians and composers of their generation. They did not just happen on the scene, and they were neither organic or natural. They were recruited and trained in Hamburg, and screaming girls were hired to follow them. The problem in the early days was how to hide their lack of talent. The key to their public performances before live audiences was intense training and muscle memory. Later, when they stopped live performances, all bets were off. They did not write, arrange or play instruments for their albums. (I have long suspected that John Lennon, more an idealist and often honest about their playing abilities, wanted out and was granted early exit in 1980. He is still around, no doubt, but free of the utter hypocrisy he lived with for twenty years.) (Macca does not seem to mind it at all. He even put out a coffee table book of lyrics he supposedly wrote. He has no shame.)
The big picture for me is a sea change in our public behaviors, modes of dress, and hair. The Beatles brought all of this about, no accident as they had some very clever high-level intelligence behind them. I think they were timed to coordinate with the fake assassination of John F. Kennedy. That in mind, the screaming at their concerts, which eventually was learned behavior repeated, in addition to an outpouring of sexual tension, was also an outpouring of grief. Just like the Beatles, JFK had a carefully contrived public image so that when he was fake-killed a whole generation was stunned into a state of shock. The Beatles were easily inserted into that picture, and the major changes that followed, culminating with the Tate Massacre in 1969, gave us the changed world we now live in. No small part of it was introduction of drugs and drug use into mainstream culture. (Macca even went to far as to encourage kids to take LSD, claiming he had done so on four occasions. What else would the most widely known rock star on the planet be up to?)
The five men who became the Beatles had varying levels of talent, the least so Ringo. MW above in the link provided suggests that most of the drumming on the record albums was done by others, as Ringo just wasn’t that good. That makes perfect sense if the others were also not playing their own instruments. Anyway, it validates the old joke: What do you call a drummer who breaks up with his girlfriend? (Homeless.)
OK, I’ve written (and repeated myself) enough here. I did this because I enjoy doing it. OK?
Piece of Mindful 
Your post is pure comedy gold, thank you for the laugh and for playing right into Mike Williams’ hands!
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“The Beatles were backed by some of the best musicians and composers of their generation.”
Initially this was painful to absorb. It’s no wonder, now, why some of those songs are just fantastic. To your title here, The Long and Winding Road is one of my favorites. Buffering the pain, however, is the fact that many musicians, and bands use “Help!”, but they don’t usually lie about it.
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I’m not a fan in particular of the Beatles but I do have an interest in exposing Mike The ‘Sage’ Williams, it’s a study in disinformation and how easily people can be taken for a ride.
Paul McCartney (the actual one!) stated in an interview about lifting a bass line from someone else and how they tried to imitate their idols, Buddy Holly etc
Likewise John, who stated more than once that while Paul could come up with original material he rarely could and would often take his favourite track by another artist and play it over and over changing bits and pieces until he had transformed it into his song.
I feel they were nothing less than absolutely honest.
I find it incredibly sad that people fall for those who would sully and attempt to destroy the reputation of the Beatles, be it out of jealousy, an attempt at gaining some kind of recognition themselves, and/or paid agents whose job it is to ridicule the death of and replacement of Paul McCartney.
Mike Williams fills all of those criteria.
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I tend to agree, and have written here that Williams is disinfo, a limited hangout. But regarding Paul, is it really possible to take an existing song and make something new of it without notice? That did not work out so well for George and his My Sweet Lord.
I have a list of quirky favorites, one of which is Get Out The Map by Indigo Girls. I wonder if Macca could take that song and make it one of his hits without the Indigo Girls, just like the Chifffons with MSL, noticing?
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Sorry, not sure what you mean ‘without notice’ ?
Yes, you have stated that Williams is disinfo’ but it would appear that only in regard to his narrative that Billy replaced Paul.
In fact that is the only aspect that Williams is correct on and only to draw in the the inquisitive and steer them down the disinfo highway.
I’d like to thank you for allowing me to post here by the way, it is appreciated.
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Davy Jones of the Monkees complained that his band was singled out as assembled. He said that the Beatles, before them, were also assembled in the same manner.
We were in a campground in Yellowstone National Park, and way early one morning a motor home drove out playing Long and Winding Road, not the Beatles version but some electronic version. Woke us up. I have not cared for that song ever since. In official history that song was remastered by Phil Specter while Paul was vacationing, and a simple little ballad became a major instrumental work. Paul was said to be furious.
The song Live and Let Die was a major James Bond piece, but looking at it the writing credits are given to George Martin, and not Macca. I wonder if there was tension there, Macca credited with being a “fucking Mozart” when Martin was the driving force.
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It seems even Mozart was assisted.
Does anyone tell the truth?
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I’ve never heard of Mozart being assisted but it appears that he added a few touches to
a Hayden concerto and then put his name to it, and likewise with Bologne’s violin concerto.
This is an ancient tradition in music. Dylan’s ‘Girl from the North Country’ is a carbon copy of ‘Scarborough Fair’, Blowing in the wind’ an old Scottish ballad, Bowie’s ‘Starman’ is ‘Somewhere Over The Rainbow’, ‘Valentine’s Day’ directly lifts the guitar riff from The Kinks, ‘Waterloo Sunset’, ‘Suffragette City’ bass line lifted directly from Jan & Dean’s ‘Surf City’
No crime is being commited, unless it’s Oasis who in my opinion pissed all over Lennon’s grave!
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Among a few distant others, I believe that Miles Mathis wrote on the subject, if I remember correctly.
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Here’s a piece from a few years back on Mozart, the idea being that he was credited with works of others to assure that the best work of the era could be labeled German. As the joke goes, the two biggest lies to come out of Austria were that Hitler was German, and that Mozart was Austrian.
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A couple of italian writers and researchers Luca Bianchini and Anna Trombetta published a few years ago a book in 2 volumes about Mozart saying that he wasn’t the musical genius everyone thinks he was, and he didn’t write most of his pieces, but it was his father if I remember correctly (haven’t read the books personally yet) and let me tell you, they were subjected to a huge shitstorm by Mozart “experts” from all over the world, but the books still sold many copies.
I think they can still be found on Amazon, they’re self-published and according to many readers and bloggers mind blowing.
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I have covered in my first video series about the Davy Jones clip that Mike shows in his 4.5 (=9 !) presentation.
I should say edited clip of DJ.
If you watch the full clip Mike Williams stops just before Davy says, and I’m paraphrasing-
“…and George was an amazing songwriter, amazing, different from Paul & John…I was at a meeting with them and Paul & John said ‘well we write the hits you know and George replied ‘well I have been enjoyed!’
Davy was alluding to the fact that Epstein git them out of leathers and into suits, something that was essential for them to get t.v. coverage.
John & George hated the idea but acquiesced.
That is all Davy meant by ‘manufactured’
Mike evidently is playing to his audience knowing full well that they won’t take the time to check these things out.
And I agree, the only other major hit by ‘Macca’ was ‘Pipes Of Peace’, produced by…George Martin.
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I do not know how it appears on your screen, but these comments are coming through all from “1”. Anyway, this is Mark Tokarski, and if you are hinting at what I think, below are some photos of interest:
This is original Paul in 1985, long after his supposed death in 1969 (9/11 as I recall). The photo was presented by JoElle Steel, a facial expert often called upon as an expert witness in court cases. She thinks this is the same guy as Macca. Expert texpert …
This is original Paul in 1964.
And this is a face split, 1964 Paul and 1985 Paul, 21 years apart, same guy.
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The death was in 1966.
I would refer to the Italian experts who didn’t believe in the ‘hoax’ and set out to disprove it
They were astonished to find that Billy McMacca had a completely different skull shape, (“you’ve been a naughty boy you let your face grow long”) a completely different mouth palate that had been operated on, his left eye also had been operated on in an attempt to give him Paul’s droopy look, they found that the surgical procedure around the eye was less than successful, an obvious scar is evident and we can often see him rubbing and pulling that area of his face in discomfort.
Eye colour is also different, Paul brown eyes, Macca green.
The list goes on and I can’t remember all of it but the most telling were the ears, one has attached ear lobes, the other unattached. Ears are like fingerprints and can be used in evidence in court.
The height difference is also very telling, Paul was tiny, Macca a big strapping lad of at least 6 feet tall.
Photographs should never be relied upon, many have been doctored.
An F.B. group, now disbanded, often posted photo’s with obvious alterations to the point where we can see identical photographs, one with Paul and the other with Macca’s head super imposed.
I wouldn’t trust ‘experts’ who conclude with spliced together photo’s that they are the same, we are talking about a $trillion business that must be protected at all costs.(Mike Williams job as well)
Credit where it’s due, the powers behind all of this have blurred the lines very successfully, we can hardly find Paul from the Hamburg days now, all replaced with a young Macca.
We don’t find a consistency either with the various looks of Macca, leading the inquisitive to conclude that ‘he put on weight, that he was taking drugs, that aging changes us etc’
I spent months in confusion until I watched ‘Hey Jude!’ on the David Frost show.
It was like a magician revealing the workings of a trick.
Just a few seconds in the veil was lifted..”who the F is this guy?!”
When one truly sees it there is no going back, they actually look nothing like each other.
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When I said ‘Italian experts’ I meant to say ‘Italian forensic team’, just to be clear.
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What a steaming bowl of nonsense. You’re obviously steeped in that Billy Shears book, as is Williams. It appears that Williams is deliberately promoting it, while you are merely falling for it. I show you photos of Paul, 21 years apart, painfully obviously the same person, and it has no effect on you. Ab at Fakeologist wanted to interview me and Mike together, and Mike said he would do it but that the subject of BS was off limits. Hmmm.
I think officially the psyop makes Paul’s fake date of death 9/11 (yopu’re right, 1966), as told to us by the drum on the Sgt Pepper album cover. If you look at my Sir Faul piece, about halfway down, you will see that if you cut that drum in half and reflect the top on a mirror, the words LONELY HEARTS become I ONEIX HE ^DIE, or 119 he die, and since European custom is to place the day before the month, it is really saying 911 he die.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, would ever have discovered that delicious album clue, so well buried was it. I suspect the people behind the psyop wanted some credit for their work, and released the clue somehow. It is truly a work of genius. The whole of the album clues business was a psyop, of course, but also good clean fun. These were some of the most talented people behind the scenes of the music business ever.
The Beatles, Paul and Mike, were recruited in Hamburg, and once selected given back stories about meeting on the streets of Liverpool. They did not write any music together, and the critical clue there is that the music book was sold to Michael Jackson’s people for pennies on the dollar. Why? I suspect that the people who really wrote those early songs wanted a payday. “Paul” and John had no say in the matter. They did not write any music together, bore no ownership, had no say.
One other aspect of the Hamburg days was the Stu Sutcliffe matter. He, who also showed signs of being a set of twins, faked his death, and then went to America to become Andy Warhol, who would later fake his death, again. So massive was this Intelligence operation in Hamburg that they at once changed the face of music and corrupted the face of art.
TETL.
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I’ve only read the 2nd edition of ‘Memoirs’ and saw it for what is was, misdirection.
I have heard from reliable sources that the footnotes change with each edition and again I can only conclude that it is to ridicule ‘Paul is dead’
I have a strong feeling that Mike Williams is a member of the ‘Memoirs’ team and it’s promotion via YouTube.
Thomas E. Harriet ? – as a test I had 3 friends fire questions at him on his F.B. page and he responded to all 4 of us simultaneously and immediately.
In short, Paul is dead is 4 decades older than that book and you are very wrong with your assertion that I am steeped in it.
If I was would I have spent so much precious time outing Williams as the absolute fraud that he most definitely is?
You obviously payed no attention to what I said about the doctoring of photographs.
Did you have a look for the Italian forensics team and their findings?
Have a look at Paul in interviews and concerts, flip between those and ‘Hey Jude!’ on the David Frost show.
I doubt very much indeed that all those clues in the songs, the album covers, the hints in interviews from the remaining three, and still to this day, was some Masonic/Illuminati/MI6 practical joke, I simply don’t believe that is how they work.
A question that no-one seems able to answer is why?, why would the secret services bother to fool us for 60 odd years that they wrote their songs when they didn’t.
Elvis is still ‘king’ and no one gives a toss that he never wrote a note, people still don’t care that Justin Beiber has never written a song and probably can’t even play the guitar, Karaoke god Robbie Williams was given a £100 million record deal and his musical contribution is nil, his adoring fans know this and care not a jot.
So why?
The 500 cassettes found in the Dakota of John recording himself writing songs, his early Beatles demos, unfinished songs etc that kept a radio station going for a full 4 years playing all this material was faked?!
Seriously, MI5 have far better things to be getting on with.
Stuart sutcliffe ?…hats off to the guy, for a Scottish laddie his New York drawl was impeccable, lol as the yung uns say.
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One of the doctors in the italian forensic team you’re reffering to is Dr. Gabriella Carlesi, who also worked at the Monster of Florence case in 2002, when the case and investigations were reopened. She had to identify the body of a man whose corpse had been exhumed, dead in 1985 and possibly involved in the Florence serial killings.
She didn’t do a good job there either, and I’m not the one stating that.
Years ago there was a video on Youtube- taken down after a while for obvious reasons-from a BBC afternoon talk show where Heather Mills, “Paul” ‘s second wife (the woman with a prosthetic on one of her legs) and mother of one of his daughters, said to the host through video connection that she’d filed for divorce asa she’d found out he’d betrayed her in the most shocking way. And this betrayal, she quickly said, was not about Paul cheating with other women but something she said “Beatles fans would never believe in a million years”. She looked very scared and worried, she wanted to go and said that she’d never tell anyone what that was about as she had to protect herself and her daughter, and Paul could be rest assured she’d never tell his secret.
The journalist was shocked and didn’t know what to say.
I’m pretty sure she knows the real Paul too.
She’s disappeared from the public eye soon after that, and I’m not surprised.
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Well, we don’t need a forensic team to show us what is in plain sight…that guy, whoever he is, looks nothing like Paul and everything that the forensic couple pointed out can be clearly seen..if one spends copious amounts of time to have a look.
As for your statement regarding Dr Gabriella, who knows, as I stated somewhere here, we are dealing with a $trillion, if not multi trillion dollar business, it’s easy to throw someone under the bus.
And the other Doctor?, is he also of disrepute?
We don’t know what Heather was alluding to, that he wasn’t Paul?, that he was up to dark shenanigans with his masonic mates?, that he was an abusive and violent husband?
Heather was 2 when Paul was killed or taken out, I’m guessing that she didn’t know him.
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I remember that. I thought at the time that part of her very large divorce settlement was to advance the PID psyop. She surely knew there was a twin brother, retired by that time. That whole thing was scripted, a setup.
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Right, because the three remaining Beatles didn’t become miserable, cynical and descended into alcohol and drug abuse because their best mate died, no, it was because he went into retirement.
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He was active through Wings and Give My Regards to Broadstreet. He did not disappear.
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Broad street – B. ..road S….tree…T
They keep telling us, if we have ears to listen and eyes to see.
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Another embedded clue? It never stops!
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Please investigate the Wings 1977 Mull of Kintyre session that Linda is in. Should come up in Google search. I see three different Paul’s. Study hair styles and facial features. Two of them look a little older. Watch until end when long haired Paul appears. Please discuss your findings. I don’t wish to discuss on your website but thought this would be a good avenue to explore. Thank you.
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Thanks. will look at it.
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I rarely have much to say about music, not an aficionado, but recently I woke up overnight and caught some of the classical music NPR plays at that hour.
Now that is a really charming piece they are playing, I thought.. a bit light and silly, but hard to resist. Turned out it was something by Mozart, maybe a serenade? Some word like that anyway, not one of the major works I guess. Anyway, I didn’t know I was a Mozart fan until then (or fan of his ghosts.)
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Check out his Piano Concerto #21, which is comprised of three movements, all enjoyable, but the second is the one that grabs me. I cannot listen to it enough.
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Loose associations and corollaries seem to be the primary tells of AI generated text. That is going to be a tough glitch to tech out.
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Oh, they were all from different people. Okay, not a bot (i) going weird. My bad.
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Interesting photo of Paul McCartney as a bairn with family:-
When I was young, 60s music compilation albums never featured The Beatles – The Rolling Stones, The Doors, The Kinks, Small Faces, etc were there, but NEVER The Beatles. For example this five CD boxset:-
On freeview TV here in the UK, there’s a 60s music video channel playing everyone from , and that NEVER has The Beatles on it, it has other groups, solo artists, like The Carpenters covering ‘Ticket to ride’, even the comic Jerry Lewis murdering ‘Help’ with Gary Lewis, but The Beatles, no siree.
Strange, unique, spooky even….
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Interesting photo from a perspective standpoint. Judging by the boys’ feet, they are very close together, yet one appears much closer than the other. The mother in the doorway is too far away, that is, there is not enough real estate between her and the boys to justify her small size. First impression, fake.
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‘Fake’, because Paul didn’t actually exist?, because Mike didn’t exist?, because they didn’t actually live in council housing?…We’re in danger of justifying all those who would call us ‘conspiracy theorists’ !
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I am a conspiracy theorist! I don’t care what anyone thinks, but powerful people do conspire against ordinary people, to control the herd. So they engage in elaborate plans to make us fall in line. They are Freemasons, they are pledged to lifetime secrecy, they (as Macca has done) place their right hand inside their jacket over their heart, a way of saying “I hold secrets close to my heart.” Napoleon, Karl Marx, Stalin, have all held this pose.
Think what you will. That’s what I think. People conspire.
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I know.
I was referring to those who would slap that label on us, on anyone who might have an actual opinion from that which is the programming.
The conspiring is centuries old.
To think that we were once telepathic beings able to turn water into a healing elixir to cure all disease to the slaves that we are now is ..well it’s disappointing in the least.
However, with far too much time on my hands I have found from various reliable sources that ‘they’ , whoever they are, cannot create, they can only manipulate and steer in a particular direction (back to the Beatles again and any other psy-op we could mention)
I have a friend from an old established Dutch family who was a mason, and who was offered a very high powered position which once accepted could never be walked away from. (he didn’t accept)
What I intuitively felt was confirmed by him, the real powers that be don’t go around parading it, flashing signs, covering eyes, waving devil horns aloft with their hands, ‘they’ are absolutely secret.
I’m afraid it’s another psy-op and one that really gained huge traction as a distraction during the convid years.
Even the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds etc etc are but bit players.
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By the way, the photo is a paste-up. If you want some real photos, Google Paul McCartney childhood photos, where (if still there) you will find photos of two boys, obvious twins. I’ve spent far too much time analyzing them, you should spend just a little.
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During the process of outing ‘The Sage” I have also spent far, far, too much time..and even some years prior to that.
I can tell you with confidence that one cannot go by photographs.
As previously mentioned, photo’s of Paul are gradually disappearing, especially those from the early years, it blurs the lines and is confusing for people.
Photographs simply cannot be relied upon, they are far too easy to manipulate, and soon the problem will be exacerbated with cgi and video footage.
Such is the concern that I know of a few folk in various social media platforms collecting and cataloging everything that they can get their hands on.
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The photos I have I downloaded years ago. and indeed many have been removed, many cropped to remove the other twin from the photo. Here is one that remains intact:
If you note the twin on the left, it is Mike, with Paul on the right deep in laughter. The only reason I know this is that in most of the other photos, as in this one, and as in later Beatles years, Mike has a cowlick.
This stuff is complicated, you have to pay attention. The guy who played the part of Mike, Paul’s brother, is known by his stage name of “Mike McGear.” He is a hire, a lifetime actor, who bears no resemblance to a McCartney. As I look at him I see a nose with a slight right-handed bend, much like John Lennon, who is in reality a Stanley. Keeping it all in the family, I suggest McGear is a Stanley.
In order to pull of this hoax, they needed to separate the twins, having Mike’s birthday changed to 1/7/44, and then having him step out of his shoes and into McGear’s. That left only one of the twins. There is still a photo or two clearly showing a set of twins, including the one I link here.
Like I say, complicated. It took a long, long time to piece it all together.
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Ok, but Mark, I enlarged the photo and I see a cow lick!
Don’t be annoyed.
My mother and her sister could not be more different, born just two years apart they share not one single trace of a resemblance.
It’s meaningless and we have to consider that while society may have pretended to be more prudish it did not stop women from having a fling with the postman or milkman.
Hoax? for what? Are you going down the route of Williams, his cronies and others that the 50’s were some halcyon days of perfect families unified by their love of God and the church, and the Beatles were invented to break up this perfect family unit and to usher in drugs and chaos?
It is occams razor.
The Beatles were organic.
I know someone ,a jazz drummer who on occasion drummed with them in Hamburg, Alan hates pop/rock, his opinion? “they were a tight band’, that’s a massive compliment coming from him.
The other person ,who I have met through my profession, was Philip ‘fingers’ Harrison, banjo player and saxophonist for ‘The Temperance 7′, he also disliked to the extreme anything current at the time. He had to be dragged to the Cavern by his girlfriend and was extremely surprised to find that they were good musicians, what struck him the most was that they played a huge range of styles.
He also saw the Stones – “rubbish’
I mentioned earlier that ‘they’ don’t invent, they notice and steer.
They noticed the effect Elvis had on the yoof, they noticed the effect that the Beatles induced.
It was the rise of youth culture and in particular the rebellion against the Vietnam war that they had to stub out, yes, with drugs, tainted LSD and choas.
The Beatles refused to play to segregated crowds in the South, they voiced their concern about the Vietnam war.
Paul , a pot smoker and whiskey & Coke guy refused to promote LSD.
And perhaps more importantly though, he was teaming up with Mark Lane to create the soundtrack for a documentary that proved that a lone gunman could not have killed JFK (I know you’re take on that but ….)
The most beloved pop star on the planet being involved with such a project was a definite ‘no no’
Enter wig wearing, badly stuck on moustache agent McMacca and his first interview, promoting LSD.
He is the hoax.
Simple.
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The point of the cowlick is that it is there in his childhood photos and also as an adult. We don’t see it now because he is probably bald and wears hairpieces. Anyway, I took the 1957 photo of Mike and compared it to the adult and aging photos of Macca using my eye pupil technique, and remember being surprised at how well they aligned. You say they went out and found another guy whose features align in this manner, has similar vocal chords, musical and singing ability. I say that cannot be done, for the same reason that when I go through customs they scan my face and instantly identify me. People are like snowflakes, no two alike.
I see no point in going further with this. I have got many hours into this project, as it was I who discovered the childhood McCartney twins and tore apart the PID psyop. It was fun, but to have my work dismissed with a wave of the hand, as it often is, is frustrating.
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PS: Cowlick there in childhood and well into adulthood.
I feel, oddly, that you do not read anything you are not predisposed to agree with, and so are missing all the fun we have had on this website with the McC twins and all those amazing album clues. Paul is dead, so sad, as if you are grieving, and I tell you to cheer up. He’s alive and well! But no, you’d rather he be dead. Kind of a neurosis if you ask me.
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Jeez Mark, no need for the ad hominem attack!
Yes, I do read but there is so little of your theory to go on, truth be told, nothing, just photographs that I have seen ad nauseam and thin air.
It’s your theory, or someone else’s (?) that has literally nothing to support it.
Don’t be offended, it’s the actual fact of the matter as far as I can see.
All I can go with is some evidence, and that includes hundreds plus clues in songs, interviews with all 5 of them, album covers, hints by others on the scene, the read between the lines clues from mainstream books ,the sudden switch from 4 affable, joking lads to miserable, depressed alcoholics and junkies, the arson attempt on Ringo’s house, the knife attack on George, the murder of John Lennon.
It’s 60 years worth of actual substance, a very deep well, dismissed by you as some sort of prank played out by MI6, Tavistock or whoever.
Album clues that they were twins?, where?!
You accuse me of not reading anything that I am not predisposed to yet I have mentioned twice that photographs have been systematically doctored and?…nothing from you.
I have posed the question twice, ‘why?’, why would the secret services create a false band, for what reason?, I offered you plenty of examples such as ‘the lost Lennon tapes’, 500 that kept a radio station busy for a full 4 years and? nothing from you.
My example of knowing two people that have seen and even played with the Beatles also fell on deaf ears.
Actually I have a third, Dougie Martin from my home town in Dundee who played on the same bill as the Beatles in Hamburg and who told me, and repeated in an interview, how the Beatles tuned their guitars differently and how everyone tried to emulate that particular sound.
The above colour photo?, it’s an amalgamation, aspects of Paul, the right eye for a start, and whatshisname blended together.
I am not ‘predisposed’, you have been dealing with many theories from the Moon landing to JFK to AIDS, Covid and beyond.
I have not. I have spent a full 4 years dealing only with this subject.
I have heard it all and looked as far as is possible into every theory, be it multiple doubles of each band member, multiple Jane Ashers, Paul having a weak heart and retiring, Paul being Hitler’s son …the lot.
The only ‘theory’ that I have discarded was that they were all clones, I have an open mind but where would one even start, just more thin air.
Having ‘fun’, as you put it, is one thing but wasting time is something completely different.
Are we to only have fun as long as we are ‘predisposed’ to your theory?
Are we not as ‘conspiracy theorists’ supposed to be investigating and keeping our minds open to all possibilities?
It’s unfair to accuse me of grieving, it simply is not the case, I only ever enjoyed ‘Strawberry Fields’ (listen to Lennon going through various stages of writing it from the Lennon tapes, or was that done on orders from the secret services along with the rest of the 500 tapes just in case 54 years later someone like Mike might discover the ‘truth’?) and ‘I am the walrus’.
Only now with the Williams work have I grown to appreciate very much those simple love songs of the mop tops.
Songs that beginners on the guitar can learn.
Songs that 4 very adept musicians who have been doing literally nothing else but playing music for 10 – 14 years could write.
(As a side note to that, you mentioned Ringo in the same tone as Mike does.
Are you aware that he played with ‘Rory Storm & The Hurricanes’ who were one of the top 5 bands in the UK?, and that there were 400 bands in just Liverpool alone?, do you have any idea how difficult it is to imitate a left handed drummer playing on a right handed kit?)
The Beatles were never on my radar, I have nothing to grieve for.
As a kid and Bowie ‘freak’, no one, literally no one, of my clique listened to the Beatles.
Current world events aside, which really should be the focus for all of us, I am quite ok really, fairly cheerful thank you very much!
The replacement was a fascinating subject but 4 years on my interest is less to do with the Beatles and more to do with this disinformation age populated by so called ‘truthers’ being paid or blackmailed even, perhaps, to spread agendas that keep us from knowing the actual truth.
Ken whit I mean?
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We are miles apart on everything. Not much to discuss. I did not say there were album clues about twins, but rather that the whole PID psyop was fueled by them. Did you ever take time to look at the Sgt. Pepper drum in my Sir Faul piece? Do you have any idea of the genius behind it? This is what we are dealing with – the people behind the Beatles were some of the best craftsmen of their time. Also behind them, the best songwriters, musicians and artists. You do see that every person on the Sgt. Pepper cover is Intel, right? How do twenty-somethings know about that? How does a man who cannot read music write a song that relies on diminished seventh chords?
Anyway, my facial comparison technique – I have used it for years now, done thousands of “face chops” as Tyrone called them. There is something to it. I have made amazing discoveries with it, discovered twins, fake deaths and “zombies” as I call them, people who fake their death and take on a new identify. I was able to isolate the singer in the film Let Him Be and offer substantial evidence that he is not Mark Staycer, but rather a living breathing John Lennon. He lives, he’s still living. I discovered a “Haliday Mccartney” in the British Peerage. By simple logic I deduced that the rooftop concert was lip synced.
But I cannot get your attention. I do quite a bit of explaining in this response to BM in Seattle. Would it kill you to read it? I am surprised, but not much, by all the time you have spent on this subject, and yet walk away not understanding how the world works.
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Did you spend time making photo comparisons to arrive at the conclusion that Mark Staycer was not John Lennon? or was it by the simple fact that Staycer is a full 22 years younger than Lennon?
Yep, Sgt Pepper cover, do you actually think that during 4 years + I wouldn’t have looked at that?
I agree it is very clever.
Yep, the people behind ‘Billy’ and perhaps even ‘Billy’ himself is very clever , a ‘craftsman’, not musically perhaps but in other areas.
Have you watched ‘A Day In The Life’ video?, some clues there, Billy conducting the orchestra in his masonic apron.
We also have a photo of him with one trouser leg rolled up.
I don’t actually know how the world works? Do you?
I could return the insult.
Are you trying to suggest that Muhammed Ali was intel?, Diana Dors?!, Buster Keaton!?, Laurel & Hardy?!, W.C. Fields?! were ‘Intel’?
Why should those 20 somethings have that knowledge.
Billy was the ‘leader’ now..’let me introduce to you the one and only Billy Shears’
‘Billy’s hear.’
So, him and his masonic cronies came up with the album cover, so what.
And then we get the Mike Williams isms –
Yeah, 20 somethings.
School leaving age in the U.K. was 15 years of age where boys had to be men often taking heavy industrial work to support their families in post war, still ravaged, subsisting on meagre rations ‘Great’ Britain.
By Pepper Lennon was 26, had been married for 5 years and had been a father for 3 years. (this is not to suggest that he had a clue about the album cover, I am putting things into a different perspective other than Williams’ continual brainwashing of ‘lads’, and of course his favourite, ‘boys’
Oh dear, spare me the ‘couldn’t read or write music’ drivel.
Just because Mike repeats this some 6 times in just a 3 minute 20 second time span in his 4.5 (=9!) hotchpotch of a presentation does not make that statement relevant in the slightest.
Here’s a quote from ‘Music For Dummies’ (no offence intended) –
‘’if you are a good musician you likely already know a lot of theory.
You simply may not know the terminology or technicalities’’
Michael Pilhofer
Are aware that Lional Bart, the composer of the most successful musical of all time ‘Oliver!’ as well as music for Judy Garland, Cliff Richard, Tommy Steele etc etc plus movies – including Bond movie ‘From Russia With Love’, could not read or write music?
Irving Berlin couldn’t read or write music when he composed ‘White Christmas’ which remains to this day the greatest selling single in history.
Dianne Warren has composed for just about everyone from Rod Stewart to Tina Turner, Cher, Ozzy, Aretha Franklin, AeroSmith ,Elton John, Bryan Adams, Cheap Trick…and I could go on and on… her songs have been in over 60 movies and has had 9 no.1 singles, and the only person to have had 7 songs in the U.S. charts all at the same time.
She fell asleep during her one and only music theory class.
Other songwriters not formally trained include – Django reinhardt, I dare you to watch him play, diminished 7ths or what?!.
Dave Brubeck, his compositions have become Jazz standards. (diminished 7th’s or what?!)
Aaron Schroeder composed over 2000 songs for Frank Sinatra, Rosemary Clooney, Tony Bennet, Arlo Guthrie, Chaka khan, Barry White, Art Garfunkel, Roy Orbison,
Pat Boone, Perry Como, Gene Pitney, Dionne Warwick, Nat King Cole amongst a huge list of many others, he co-wrote 17 songs for Elvis and?…couldn’t read or write music..diminished 7ths anyone?
Glen Campbell held the distinction of working with ‘The Wrecking Crew’ an elite group of session musicians who were formally trained, Campbell was not.
Dolly Parton has written around 5000 songs, ‘I will Always Love You’ & ‘Jolene’ were written in the same afternoon, also cannot read or write music.
The Bee Gee’s wrote over 1000 songs and also couldn’t read or write music.
Neither could Kurt Cobain who completely changed the music scene in the 90’s.
Neither can Thom Yorke of ‘RadioHead’ who have sold over 30 million albums.
Nor can Lional Ritchie – 9 no.1 hits
Nor can Nick Mason and Roger Waters of Pink Floyd.
Nor could Stevie Ray Vaughn – diminished 7th’s anyone!!!
In fact it is quite a task to find any popular musician who can, they know full well that formal training can in fact hinder creativity within their genre.
You do know that Mike ‘THE sage’ is an ex hypnotherapist and trained in NLP?
You really shouldn’t let him get inside your head.
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Hmmm … the fire hose treatment. You have no way of knowing if any of these people wrote their own music. Ever heard of Max Martin? Also, the initials MM … M is the 13th letter of the alphabet, so that MM is signalling 1313, or 11 and 33, Masonic. As in Miles Mathis? Mark Marano? Mike McCartney? Of course, that is not the final word, but I do look for these signals, and also a photo of Mike McCartney with the group, I’d have to go find it, with his hand inside his jacket and over his heart, Masonic signal for “I hold secrets close to my heart.” This has all come out in the comments, but I don’t think you read them.
I am very familiar with the Wrecking Crew, as these (real and talented) musicians were behind just about every hit of the late 60s and early 70s. The Beach Boys were a vocal group, but Bryan had talent, and most of the early groups of that era had military family connections. Jane Fonda was a plant, never went to North Vietnam, complete phony top to bottom. We did extensive research on this blog on the musicians and some actors of that era, finding that 60-70 of them supposedly died young, but in fact faked their deaths. You’re reading about the history of this blog. We have a long history of research and amazing findings. You make light of it all from your perch of ignorance.
Glen Campbell was a naturally gifted musician who said he was perfectly happy being a studio musician, as he was making good money. His amazing career took off when he was used as s summer replacement for the Smothers Brothers, but interestingly, he was not a gifted song writer, only one I know of to his name, Turn Around, Look At Me, where someone else stole the royalty rights. I saw him play the William Tell Overture on a 12-string, not missing a note, even playing part with his guitar on top of his head. The guy had real talent, seventh son of a seventh son, one of twelve children born on a farm in Arkansas. He was asked by Bob Costas what that was like, and he answered that he did not know what it was like to sleep alone until he got married.
Oh yeah, and Paul was a set of twins, both still alive, PID a psyop. “He” did not write that music. That come from committee. I am the one who discovered he was twins, and who has explained, ad nauseum, the reason for the PID exercise. And, some time, take a look at the drum on Sgt. Pepper. Mark Staycer’s age did not matter, as we were told extensive makeup was used to make him look like Lennon, whose name is not Lennon. That was classic Intel work, as Staycer and Lennon did a double blind, each stepping in and out of the shoes of the other. TETL.
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Right, Tavistock wrote all these guys’ material,
‘Dear Lional Bart we want you to be a front for a Charles Dickens opera!, this of course must remain confidential, TOP SECRET, we thank you in advance’
‘Memo to Agent Barry Gibb, we have plans to usurp the youth by inventing something we have titled ‘Disco’, we think that your falsetto would be perfect for a track that our secret team have composed called ‘Stayin’ Alive’
Really, ok, looks like I don’t know how this world works after all.
Thanks Mark, this has been …..’fun’
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You can search the blog top to bottom, thousands of posts, and will find that I have never used the word “Tavistock.” I don’t know anything about it, and anyway, it sounds like misdirection. Fact is we do not know who wrote the Beatles’s music, but selling the rights to MJ meant that there were legal rights, and they were sold. John and Paul were supposedly taken on that deal, as if they owned those rights. Others did.
I suppose what you wrote there will have to pass for an answer.
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It’s a perfectly valid answer , musicians rarely owned the right to their music, this only happens now because of decades of musicians being ripped off, not reading the small print…being young excitable and not business minded
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Ok, let’s change Tavistock to …?…’Intel’ same difference.
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Album – ‘Pop Party’ – 1968
With The Who, Cream, Bee Gees, Jimi Hendrix, Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + many more artists including the Beatles.
Album – ‘No One’s Gonna Change My World’ – 1969
With The Bee Gees, Spike Milligan, Cliff Richard + many more artists including the Beatles
‘Tribute To The Cavern’ – 1984
With Bill J Kramer, The Fourmost, Cilla Black, Gerry & The Pacemakers + others including the Beatles
‘That’s What I Call Music – The Summer Album’ – 1986
Young Rascals, 10cc, Eddie Cochran, The Kinks, The Mamas & Papas amongst many, many more, including the Beatles
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wiki:- ‘Now That’s What I Call Music – The Summer Album is a compilation album released on 6 July 1986 as a part of the (UK) Now! series. It takes the form as a special album in the series. It is notable for containing the songs “All You Need Is Love” and “Here Comes the Sun” by The Beatles. The Beatles and Apple Records don’t often allow their songs to appear on various artists compilation albums. ‘
My friend Kim’s husband is a parttime DJ and avid LP collector, and has hundreds of compilation records if not more, only one LP features The Beatles.
PS Both laddies in the photo are a similar height though the quality is shocking.
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Jackie, you said – ‘When I was young, 60s music compilation albums never featured The Beatles – The Rolling Stones, The Doors, The Kinks, Small Faces, etc were there, but NEVER The Beatles.’
And now you’re saying that Kim’s husband does have a compilation album.
Kim’s husband might only have one but the other 3 certainly were released.
It’s well known that Beatles music is heavily copyrighted by EMI, it’s not really ‘Strange, unique, spooky even….’
Try switching to ‘That’s TV Gold’, it’s on Sky & Freeview and ,I quote, –
“New content boasts documentaries and concerts from pop music icons including The Beatles, Elvis, ABBA and The Rolling Stones”
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When I was young I’d never Kim nor her husband, I’ve only known them 5 maybe 6 years, and only recently discussed how The Beatles were NEVER on ‘That’s 60s’ channel, even though other people covering ‘their’ songs were. Other people that even her husband Tom had never heard of, and he’s a font of knowledge pop music-wise, especially the 60s, man.
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To my eye, it is very clear that the middle top photo (referring to the 6 photos in the main article above) is closer to the Haliday photo than the “Macca” photo.
The nose is the biggest “tell”, as Macca’s is longer and more narrow with a pointy, downward tip. Haliday and “top middle Paul” both have more of a pug nose that curve slightly in the same direction, and the nostrils look identical. You can’t even see Macca’s nostrils, emphasizing the difference in nose length and tilt.
haliday’s ears look very similar to “top middle paul” as well…compare the ear shadow of the left ear (from our perspective).
also, the hair part is in the same spot.
I’m not drawing any conclusions from this, regarding if the current Macca was around in the early days…just that the “top middle Paul” in that photo montage is not a young Macca, from my perspective.
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Thanks, Brandon. I appreciate your time and insight. However, the technique I use, which is not flawless, supersedes mere visual inspection.It is based on a principle which I have tested on myself, that from a certain point in our lives in mid-to-late teens, our skulls are fully formed and take on a shape that will not change despite aging and throughout our lives. That in mind, and I learned this years ago from a long lost source, the distance between our eye pupils is a constant. It can be used as a basis for other facial measurements.
I have only seen one instance where this did not hold true, that of Stephen Hawking, as ALS alters head shape. Even though I agree with Mr. Mathis that he was replaced by an actor back in 1988 or so, there is no proof. My technique cannot be used.
The reasons what I do are not flawless are many, and judgment is required and I have relied on it too heavily in the past.People, including Mr. Mathis, tell me that Internet photos cannot be trusted. I think commenter Pete in this thread said as much, that people monkey with photos. Others have mentioned lens distortion with different quality cameras. I accept all of that.
However, the fact that nothing is 100% foolproof does not discredit the technique. Yes, lens distortion exists, but when almost all photos are taken with lower quality cameras, as in 1957 and 1959, and without knowledge of future fame, I think it safe to suggest that the photos are an accurate representation of the people at that time. We recently, traveled from Europe to the US, and missed a flight in Salt Lake City in customs and security. Two things happened: State Department scanned our faces and instantly recognized us based on some undisclosed algorithm, and we were good to go. After that, the 200 or so people on our flight had to wait in line as one clerk inspected our passport photo with no other basis than to look at us and compare us to the photo. Not reliable.
The State Department technique is also not flawless, but is now widely in use. More and more our facial features are used to access our computers and verify financial transactions. I cannot know it of course, but eye pupils must have some use, and the financial system would be at great risk if photo scans were not accurate and reliable..
So when inspecting the 1957 and 1959 photos of Paul and Mike, I was not relying on mere eyesight. I set the eye pupils at a common distance. I never fudge on this, never go back and change that critical measurement to make a happier ending. When I placed 1957 Mike and 1959 Paul next to each other, they did not line up in other features. Because they are identical twins, it was close, but not there. Two different people. The same with Paul and Halliday, Macca and 1957 “Paul”, really Mike, face splitting shows them to be the same people. Like snowflakes, no two are the same.
You can say those photos were altered, somehow, by some mysterious force that knew when JoElle Steel published her book, my source for the photos, that people somehow knew what I would be doing and had made critical changes. But no one else does what I do, and me and my little blog do not matter. At some point I have to think I have an objective means of weighing evidence.
Maybe I am full of it.
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I did read it Mark.
You continually ‘waived’ away every statement where I told you that photographs have been doctored, altered, amended, changed, modified and transformed.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge this?
You said –
‘You can say those photos were altered, somehow, by some mysterious force that knew when JoElle Steel published her book’
So on the one hand you are saying that there was this huge psy-op of recruiting, and training 4 guys none of ‘whom were good on their instruments’ for reasons which you have never once illuminated upon, that there was ‘genius’ behind the Sgt Pepper album cover and now because it concerns your photographs it’s ‘some mysterious force’ i.e. the idea of altering photo’s is ridiculous.
Was Joelle’s book published in 1966?
1966 was when they first started doctoring photographs, the very first of which was a hastily scribbled moustache on Paul McCartney for The Beatles Fan Magazine.
Where is your consistency Mark?, surely on a quest for some actual answers we cannot simply ignore that which does not suit us?
Again, for the last time – photographs have been altered consistently since 1966, they are not a reliable source for research.
One simply cannot drag photo’s from Google images or some book which has dragged photo’s from Google images and use them as some testament of fact.
The….photographs…have ….been…doctored.
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Had you read the post on which you are commenting, you would know I took time at the end (farther than most people read) to explain the why.
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Oh, I have read them.
You said –
The Beatles, Paul and Mike, were recruited in Hamburg, and once selected given back stories about meeting on the streets of Liverpool. They did not write any music together, and the critical clue there is that the music book was sold to Michael Jackson’s people for pennies on the dollar. Why? I suspect that the people who really wrote those early songs wanted a payday. “Paul” and John had no say in the matter. They did not write any music together, bore no ownership, had no say.
However not once have you answered why they were recruited and by whom.
Forget the whom, let’s just use the buzzword that everyone uses nowadays, ‘Tavistock’ sounds good, ‘sounds’ like insider knowledge, cheers ‘sage’
P.S. artists had no rights to their work, the fact that Michael Jackson bought them is meaningless, Billy put in an offer but being the stingy guy that he is didn’t want to up his offer.
It’s only recently that artists have become more savvy.
Practically everyone was ripped off by their managers, the Beatles were no exception, this is not proof they had nothing to do with writing their simple little ditties.
I digress, no, you never answered why?
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I showed you a photo of Paul, real Paul, from 1964, and Paul from 1985 given to us by Joelle Steel, and then demonstrated my face chopping technique to show you they were the same person, 21 years apart. Your answer, that photos are doctored, does not satisfy me. Some of them are. For instance, if you read the Miles Mathis (MM) piece called Listen, Do You Want to Know a Secret – Paul McCartney is Twins you will find a photo of Mike playing a Fender guitar, but nothing is right about it. As is easy then to see, that they took the photo and flipped it, as Paul, a righty, was playing righty, but had to appear to be a lefty. (In that piece, I am the “Friend from Colorado”.)
I once watched (and published) a long video supposedly of the Beatles doing studio work putting together Get Back. A lot of chatter, no real music, a lot of guitar tuning, and then end of day they are walking out of the studio as the real song, by studio musicians, is playing, no indication, none, that the boys actually assembled it. The video was taken down. It was too obvious, I suppose, that they were not the creators behind the piece. TETL.
I am going to the gym now.
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Do I have to use cap locks here?..ok
PHOTOGRAPHS HAVE BEEN DOCTORED.
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That’s just a way of saying that you cannot be wrong in your perceptions. As something of an aficionado in the area of photos, I can tell you with certainty that some photos are doctored. In fact, as I like to say, the first photo was taken in 1826, and the next day another was taken, but it was doctored. But in the 1960s doctoring photos was not so easy as now, as it required brush techniques and razor cutting. For instance, the photo here of Janis Joplin and family has been doctored, and it took some effort – she had to be inserted into the photo and her twin sister removed. But if you look closely, you can tell by unusually straight lines and different lighting that they have altered it.
Anyway, there is no all or none, and the certainty with which you assert that every photo after a certain day (9/11/66) is doctored is merely confirmation bias, again. If that day passed without incident, and the 85 photo of Paul genuine, then your argument sinks like a rock.
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You are putting words in my mouth … ‘every photo after a certain day (9/11/66) there has been a systematic altering’
Systematic altering yes, ‘every photo’?, nope, did not say that.
The subtext of your message is that YOU are able to decipher what has been altered and what hasn’t with 100% accuracy.
I can point you to many a video of professional photographers arguing back and forth as to the authenticity of the Moon landing photographs, this leads me to suspect that photographic manipulation was actually somewhat more advanced than you have expressed.
I want more than spliced together photographs!
On that note I have read a post somewhere yonks ago from a professional photographer who stated that spliced together photographs, I’m talking half a face of someone and half a face of another, together is a wholly inaccurate, even ridiculous form of comparison.
It appears that you are hinging your whole ‘theory’ on such ‘techniques’.
You will have to do far better than that!
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I did not say “with 100% accuracy.” However, I do have thousands of hours at it, my own advisor, my own authority source.
That, by the way, is a crude appeal to authority. And, can you be any more vague?
The technique, which I have seen work hundreds of times, is based on solid science, that our skulls are fully formed early in life and do not change thereafter. Of course a lot of judgment is required and basic honesty not to fudge results. But I am not going to try to sell you on it. You don’t seem to be of a curious nature to want to listen.
You say you’ve seen no evidence that the Beatles were not organic. You are sort of over looking a couple of elements, one, McCartney twins.
Two, out of that same spook nest, Hamburg, came another candidate for the band who did not make the cut: Stu Sutcliffe. I piled tons of energy into this project, as I thought Andy Warhol and Stu were dead ringers. Use of facechops was limited, but they did show that the child sitting in Mama Warhol’s lap was not the one we knew as Andy. My primary weapon was use of overlays on profiles. Wouldn’t you know it, Stu and Andy are the same guy.
Finally, and this project took days, I am going to show you a fake photo below here. Since you were not up for the Jim Morrison challenge, I doubt you’ll be up for this one either.
It took hours upon hours of staring to figure this one out, and why wouldn’t it, as this was some of the most important photo fakery in human history.
TETL
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You said ‘do you ever answer a question?’, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!…are we even allowed to say that phrase these days?
Wow! your Warhol splicing reminds me of some woman, some associate of Williams, her channel is called ‘Supernatural Beatles’
I think you would appreciate it.
“here is a photo comparison of Jane Asher, Jane at 3 years of age, Jane at 17 years of age, and Jane at 69 years of age…I think we can all agree that they are not the same person”
Jim ‘surely faked his death’, who knows, you don’t know and you will probably never find out, it’s all pure conjecture.
That one had me interested for a few hours one day but it’s a rabbit hole going absolutely nowhere.
You say that they didn’t have the technology to fake photographs, so what are you doing spending ‘hours upon hours’ staring at Kennedy for?!
And that photo predates McCartney by 3 years.
Come on. You must see the contradiction in your argument there.
Before it was removed from many platforms I saw footage of the side of Kennedy’s head explode and his brains spraying over his wife.
Somehow Intel could fake film footage though I guess.
I mentioned to you and to Anna in this thread that I am open to all possibilities, I even mentioned that I am open to Manson being a stooge and the murders being fake.
It’s all fascinating but at some point inevitably grinds to a halt for lack of any meaningful evidence.
With nothing substantial to go on theories quickly become conjecture which are in danger of becoming fantasy if we are not careful.
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You are such a drive by artist! You take pot shots at anyone who does not agree with your Billy Shears nonsense. You make shit up, as in your supposition without evidence that Beatle photos are altered. Why? Because they don’t support your theory. You cannot see what you do not want to see.
Oh well. You can lead a horse to water. In my Sir Faul piece, which along with Warhol/Sutcliffe is in your unread pile, I merely note Jane Asher’s mother being a music teacher and George Martin being her star pupil. Do you ever read anything? I showed photos of her dating both Paul and Mike, and they all looked comatose. You cannot compare faces of a 3 year old, as it is not developed. 17, possibly though not quite fully formed, and 69 for sure.
McGowan’s date of death was a tell, 11/22/2015. That’s a spook marker, and the day JFK faked his death too. Dave was doing crazy stuff for the cameras, chain smoking, wearing pajamas for interviews. A few years back I found a Dave McGowan living in LA, the right age, and still alive, using TruePeopleSearch. He’s gone now. I assume he was merely reassigned, his LHO work at and end, and being reassigned.
The JFK autopsy photos were released in the 1981 David Lifton book Best Evidence, supposedly over the protests of the Kennedy family. Are you kidding me? That family is so powerful they can stop anything from seeing light of day. They wanted those photos released. Why? They were fakes, but very good fakes. That’s why it took me so long to analyze them … it takes focus, extreme concentration, and the ability to think sideways while working. Try it sometime. If you do focus and work, you will slowly come to realize that JFK’s face was superimposed on someone else’s body. (The same is true of the Jim Morrison photo with his fake dad, his face on someone else’s body.) Once you see a little, you see it all. It unveils. It’s an experience you’ve never had, I know, working without preformed conclusions.
The Lifton book came out 17 years after JFK’s staged death. That is a lot of time working the dark rooms to get those images right. I have not seen any work on this matter similar to my own. I stand by it.
Let’s see, what other insults came my way? Oh yeah, you continually belittle my face chops as meaningless, even using the word drivel. I can give you the tools to allow you to test it for yourself. There’s a whole lot more to it than just placing two photos together. You have to find photos where they are looking at the camera, not always available. You have to straighten the head so the eyes are level. You have to size and resize each head so the eye pupils are the same distance. I use one inch. I am betting you don’t have the tools or abilities to do this stuff, do you chump.
And yes, I do have faith in my intelligence and abilities. I’ve been doing this for years now, and do it in the face of ridicule and criticism, as in addition to intelligence and ability, I also possess moral courage, the ability to keep my head when those about me are losing theirs and blaming it on me. But I make allowance for doubters too. I have made mistakes, will make more. But in the end, I believe in me, you see.
TETL
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You sound somewhat rattled!
No, I don’t just dismiss and take pot shots at whoever.
I agreed with Anna and you about the social engineering aspect.
So the photo, is that a touched up photo of JFK sleeping?
A pose struck by JFK because he was actually alive?
And the video footage? Actor I suppose, special effects?
The thing is, that no matter the psy-op, there is always some ‘leak’, something to go on. Always.
Concerning JFK, by the late 60’s some 100 people had died in mysterious circumstances, these included witnesses to the event, some who had even testified at The Warren Commission including journalist and t.v. personality Dorothy Kilgallen who wrote some damning articles concerning the affair and, who knows, perhaps even Paul McCartney who as I mentioned had been contacted by Mark Lane to compose music for his documentary.
There is always something to go on.
The radio broadcast announcing Paul’s death in a car accident that was quickly taken off air, that many people state with certainty that they heard.
We can see what looks like controlled demolition at 9/11, possibly a cover for some advanced weapons technology evidenced by steel turning to powder as it’s falling and cars that are mysteriously only half incinerated at ground level.
We have a moon lander made of tin foil and curtain poles.
We always have something.
I could offer a court of law hundreds if not a thousand pieces of evidence and you have a few photo’s.
You say that I haven’t offered evidence of photo’s being doctored, I don’t have to, you have done that all by yourself.
The early Hamburg photo’s that you provided are of a young guy that we see today, someone who looks nothing like Paul McCartney.
And what would be the point in furnishing you with evidence?, you have dug your heels in, those thousand clues are simply waived off and dismissed by you as simply being part of a psy-op by Intel to distract from your theory, and your theory alone, that they were in fact twins.
I did read your Sutcliffe/Warhol piece, you make many an assertion with absolutely nothing to back them up with.
You stated – ‘You cannot compare faces of a 3 year old, as it is not developed. 17, possibly though notmquite fully formed, and 69 for sure’
And then you stick a 12 year old Andy Warhol onto a 50 something Andy Warhol, and then assert ‘By the way, face chops there very clearly show two people’
For some inexplicable reason you take something and run at full pelt with it and all the while disregarding important questions.
You assert that the Beatles were a talentless bunch who were less than average musicians, this flys in the face of actual, real, concrete evidence, we have live footage and many a testimonial that proves the contrary.
Again, there were 400 bands in Liverpool alone, one that was already one of the top 5 bands in the U.K., so why would ‘Intel’ (completely interchangeable with Tavistock as far as i can see from your posts) choose a talentless bunch then?
Wouldn’t that be a risky choice?, might that not be seen through and foil Intel’s dastardly attempts to corrupt the youth?
If they had such talent behind the scenes who actually wrote those songs wouldn’t they just use them?
How many experimental artists were there in New York lofts?, why not use one of them? Why take an ex-Beatle and stick false ears on him.
Again, you provide a couple of photographs as proof and then reams of text which, to my eyes, comes across as pure supposition, pure conjecture, pure fantasy.
Very simple questions that I posed above should always be considered, one should always be one’s own devils advocate, you might then avoid at least some of that ‘.. ridicule and criticism..’ that you face.
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Oh, and before I receive another torrent (!) I have posed a question to my friend.
He is a professional photographer just short of 3 decades.
His work has a permanent place in the Museum of photography in New York, and has also been published in Time Magazine.
Let him tell us wether superimposing a photograph of one person on top of another and stitching two profiles of different people together is an accurate technique of determining if they are one and the same person.
It’s late in N.Y. just now so we might have to wait until the morrow.
I am sure you are just as keen as me in finding out!
Toodle pip!
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So Yogi Berra, the late manager of the Yankees, back in the seventies, is on the field before a game, and three streakers come tearing across the field, first to third, disappearing somewhere beyond third. He was later interviewed and asked if they were men or women. “I don’t know,” he said, “they were wearing hoods.”
Somehow this reminds me of this ongoing conversation with you.
What they did with JFK was to find a body that could reasonably said to be his, though it was much more athletic, and lay it out on a stretcher. They then photographed it. Later they took a photo of JFK’s face, down to his ears, and using razors and doing a lot of shading, must have taken weeks, superimposed his face on that body. Such care had to be taken, and the means of entering it into the public consciousness had to appear to be from left field. These people, maybe the same ones who did the Sgt Pepper cover and drum, are fucking good.
I do not know what else you’re fire hosing me with here. Yesterday I took a weed whacker and went up and down our 330 (Masonic clue there) foot driveway, and then raked it all into the open. Today I have to sweep it into piles and dispose of it all. That’s my day.
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We really should stop meeting like this!
Ok, I’m going to have to ‘fire hose’ you again -hopefully you’ll answer…this time
You said, and I quote-
‘The technique, which I have seen work hundreds of times, is based on solid science, that our skulls are fully formed early in life and do not change thereafter’
Sweeping generalisations doth not an argument make, please be more specific, what exactly do you mean by early in life?
‘Skulls can be fully formed at around 18 to 20, some continue to form until 25 and some even continue to grow and don’t fully fuse together until the age of 40’
(Dr Pradyumna Oak, Director, neurology, Speciality Hospital, Mumbai)
You said –
But in the 1960s doctoring photos was not so easy as now, as it required brush techniques and razor cutting.
In your Barbara walters article you state –
The doctoring is obvious there. Given that some were doctored, I think it logical to conclude that most, if not all older photos of Walters from the 1960s and early 70s are products of forgery of some kind.
So, as regards Billy/Paul your presupposition is that it was perhaps possible but ‘takes some effort’, in other words, it’s difficult so probably didn’t happen because of the basic technology at the time …BUT… not so with Barbara Walters it seems.
In your Barbara Walters article you state –
‘Take a look at the photo’s below – I was able to determine that these woman are NOT the 1961 Barbara Walters. They all bear a close resemblance to the person we know today’
And just as in the Jane Asher example, that you were quite rightly very derisive about, you then show a 14 year old child, an 18 year old and a 20 year old to make a comparison with a much, much older woman.
There is no consistency with your arguments.
You have left it to your audience to determine which photo is from 1961.
The immediate photo’s below are not 1961 but some 7 years later and 10 years later than 1961.
Where she is holding her baby is 1968, a full 18 years on from her college photograph that you posted.
Giving the approximate age of the child when she is being carried, say 5 years of age, we are now talking 23 years older than the college photograph.
Did you change over the course of a 23 year period?
The photograph on the left is from 1971 and the photograph on the right is from 1970.
None of the 5 photographs that you posted are of Barbara in 1961.
Mark?
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I am going to focus on the Barbara Walters matter, as I cannot make any progress with you on Paul/Mike. I reread it twice in the interim, the last time reviewing the 76 comments that followed it. Many were quite good.
Here is the upshot: The original BW came along in 1961, and she was a pioneer, the first woman in news broadcasting. The problem was that she was not very good. But they could not just fire her or replace her, as she was a pioneer. Pam Courson came along, out of work having been retired as Jim Morrison’s squeeze, and she got the role. There were problems, a 17 year age difference, and the two looked nothing alike. But original BW had not made much of an impression, so they ran a psyop using Saturday Night Live cast member Gilda Radner, who claimed that the new BW had a lisp and did an impression of her nothing like her. She became a recurring character, and the original BW faded from memory, and Pam Courson became the person. That’s how it works, that’s how the public mind is controlled.
Problem within the post: At that time I was sensitive to criticism for using face splits, and was using GIF overlays. They don’t work, as me, doing the work, can see everything, hardly anyone else, including you, can. I am going to rework that post, not today, to substitute face splits for GIFs to clean it up. The original BW and Courson look nothing alike, as shown in the GIFs, but a face split would have clearly shown it where a GIF produced a mishmash.
You mention a baby in her lap, as if I was saying that there should be some facial resemblance. If that is the case, you did not read it well. MY point was that the baby and BW were subject to different lighting, an indication of photo trickery. The baby was lit up by a flash, while BW was not. The baby was not in the same photo, added later. Why? As Tyrone says in a comment on the Longwinded post, many of these people from the peerage are infertile and even asexual, and maybe the was the case with Courson, but who knows. All I can say is that baby was not in the same photo as her for some reason.
A person going by the name Kevin Starr was hanging out here, and read the piece, and disagreed in total with me, especially in the beginning where I suggest that Courson’s voice was overlaid over BW’s as a young reporter returning from Paris. By the end of the comments, he has come completely around, and agrees. This is probably the only reason that video survived, as there is precious little else left of the original.
I don’t know if you read the whole piece, is it is long (I enjoyed reading it again! So much work back then, but fresh discoveries), but at the end you will see original BW on her Today Show panel behind a desk, but her arms are under the desk and her shoulders slumped, a complete submissive posture. That, I suggest, is the reason why they replaced her with PC, as she was not getting it done. Original BW co-hosted the evening news with Frank McGee, and then forever disappeared. PC took over, moved over to CBS, had a high-profile run-in with Harry Reasoner (probably staged and scripted), and then left for ABC where she filled the same role now filled by Anderson Cooper, interviewing big stars and showing up at fake events to make them seem real. BW is now said to be 93, though she does not look anything like that age. Courson would be 76 now, more like it. I’ve seen this done before, with Betty White. A much younger version steps in for the older one, and assumes the older one’s age.
All the world’s a stage.
TETL.
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I am not of the typical demographic that you are used to on your comic book ‘blog’, your posts are just far too glaringly obvious.
I very lightly skimmed your ‘Anorexia nervosa not’ article –
Karen Carpenter wearing a ‘sports jersey’ you wrote.
A search taking all of 6 seconds shows Karen wearing a dress, of course.
You continued –
‘…a good photo, but I suspect fake, as her skin tone and color is different between head and body.’
A 10 year old could tell you that Karen is wearing make up.
We all know full well that celebrities must wear heavy duty make up for the camera, and especially so before high definition arrived.
As I said to you ‘…giving conspiracy theorists a bad name’ is the modus operandi here.
Last year I hopscotched straight over the ‘shoddy research’ conclusion that I initially concluded with the Sausage of Quakery’s 4.5 hour NLP For Dummies Beatles ‘exposé’.
In this blog I very quickly smelt a rat and it was a bit wiffy, a tad stinky.
The taking down in this ‘blog’ by you, and whoever, of my comments and video regarding The Fraud of Queasy last year ,with some lame excuse from you about posting elsewhere on your site was an early indicator, as is your continued support of Will I am s.
Lack of time and interest kept me away from your ‘work’ until last week.
Just a few sniffs while recently skimming through your articles was confirmation enough and our recent mirth inducing circular ‘discussions’ sealed the deal.
However, my interest lies much more with those who lap this garbage up despite the overwhelming stench.
Hanging out here for a week (?) I have to say that it was quite disappointing that only a few of your followers turned up.
Yes, Garbage.
let’s instead call your ‘work’ foundationless, frail, fake, weak, poorly packaged, badly executed, incoherent, constantly contradictory, far too easily deconstructed, intended to be stumbled upon so that actual theories are dismissed, obviously photoshopped, fraudulent, comedic garbage, and you know that I am being kind here!
I mean, who pays you and your ilk?! and, can I get a job?!
Only kidding, I have set myself a far higher standard of morality to ever consider stooping this low.
As someone asked De Niro (or was it his twin?!!! where are those laughing emojis when you need them), yeah, as someone asked him in the movie where he plays Bernie Madoff –
“Have you no shame?, have you no conscience?’
Your blog could make for some humorous fodder in an upcoming YouTube presentation! for that at least, I thank you!
Cheers!
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I am going to focus on the Barbara Walters matter, as I cannot make any progress with you on Paul/Mike. I reread it twice in the interim, the last time reviewing the 76 comments that followed it. Many were quite good.
Here is the upshot: The original BW came along in 1961, and she was a pioneer, the first woman in news broadcasting. The problem was that she was not very good. But they could not just fire her or replace her, as she was a pioneer. Pam Courson came along, out of work having been retired as Jim Morrison’s squeeze, and she got the role. There were problems, a 17 year age difference, and the two looked nothing alike. But original BW had not made much of an impression, so they ran a psyop using Saturday Night Live cast member Gilda Radner, who claimed that the new BW had a lisp and did an impression of her nothing like her. She became a recurring character, and the original BW faded from memory, and Pam Courson became the person. That’s how it works, that’s how the public mind is controlled.
Problem within the post: At that time I was sensitive to criticism for using face splits, and was using GIF overlays. They don’t work, as me, doing the work, can see everything, hardly anyone else, including you, can. I am going to rework that post, not today, to substitute face splits for GIFs to clean it up. The original BW and Courson look nothing alike, as shown in the GIFs, but a face split would have clearly shown it where a GIF produced a mishmash.
You mention a baby in her lap, as if I was saying that there should be some facial resemblance. If that is the case, you did not read it well. MY point was that the baby and BW were subject to different lighting, an indication of photo trickery. The baby was lit up by a flash, while BW was not. The baby was not in the same photo, added later. Why? As Tyrone says in a comment on the Longwinded post, many of these people from the peerage are infertile and even asexual, and maybe the was the case with Courson, but who knows. All I can say is that baby was not in the same photo as her for some reason.
A person going by the name Kevin Starr was hanging out here, and read the piece, and disagreed in total with me, especially in the beginning where I suggest that Courson’s voice was overlaid over BW’s as a young reporter returning from Paris. By the end of the comments, he has come completely around, and agrees. This is probably the only reason that video survived, as there is precious little else left of the original.
I don’t know if you read the whole piece, is it is long (I enjoyed reading it again! So much work back then, but fresh discoveries), but at the end you will see original BW on her Today Show panel behind a desk, but her arms are under the desk and her shoulders slumped, a complete submissive posture. That, I suggest, is the reason why they replaced her with PC, as she was not getting it done. Original BW co-hosted the evening news with Frank McGee, and then forever disappeared. PC took over, moved over to CBS, had a high-profile run-in with Harry Reasoner (probably staged and scripted), and then left for ABC where she filled the same role now filled by Anderson Cooper, interviewing big stars and showing up at fake events to make them seem real. BW is now said to be 93, though she does not look anything like that age. Courson would be 76 now, more like it. I’ve seen this done before, with Betty White. A much younger version steps in for the older one, and assumes the older one’s age.
All the world’s a stage.
TETL.
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I had to amend this slightly to see if it will appear on your blog, the original didn’t
Here goes, 3rd try.
I very lightly skimmed your ‘Anorexia nervosa not’ –
Karen Carpenter wearing a ‘sports jersey’ you write, not of course when one takes around 8 seconds on Google to find that it’s a dress.
You said about Karen-
‘…is a good photo, but I suspect fake, as her skin tone and color is different between head and body.’
A 10 year old could tell you that is make up. We all know full well that celebrities wear heavy duty make up for the camera, and especially so before high definition.
As I said to you ‘…giving conspiracy theorists a bad name’ is the modus operandi here.
Last year I hopscotched straight over the ‘shoddy research’ with your ‘work’ and whoever else’s it is. I quickly smelt a rat and it was a bit wiffy, a tad stinky.
The taking down in this ‘blog’ by you, and whoever, of my comments and video exposing The Fraud of Queasy last year ,with some lame excuse about posting elsewhere on your site, was an early indicator, as is your continued support of him.
Lack of time and interest kept me away until last week.
Just a few sniffs while recently skimming through your unadulterated comedy …comic… was confirmation enough and our mirth inducing circular ‘discussions’ sealed the deal.
However, my interest lies much more with those who lap this garbage up despite the overwhelming stench.
Hanging out here for a week (?) I have to say that it was quite disappointing that only a few folk turned up.
Garbage.
let’s instead call your ‘work’ foundationless, frail, fake, weak, poorly packaged, badly executed, rambling, incoherent, contradictory, far too easily deconstructed, meant to be stumbled upon so that actual theories are dismissed, obviously photoshopped, fraudulent, comedic garbage, and you know that I am being kind here!
I mean, who pays you and your ilk?! and, can I get a job?!
Only kidding, I have set myself a far higher standard of morality to ever consider stooping this low.
As someone asked De Niro (or was it his twin?!!! where are the laughing emojis here?!), yeah, as someone asked him in the movie where he played Bernie Madoff –
“Have you no shame?, have you no conscience?’
Your blog could certainly make for some humorous fodder in an upcoming YouTube presentation! for that at least, I thank you!
Cheers!
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She is wearing a sports jersey and is being handed a sports trophy as she apparently won the race, ergo the #1 placard she carries. Her head has painfully obviously superimposed on someone else’s body, sloppy sloppy work. There is also the matter of perspective – the hands are close together but the bodies do not reflect this. We studied this photo as a group back in 2016. My daughter-in-law informed me matter-of-factly that anorexia nervosa causes distortion of head size and shape. It doesn’t but these goofy photos were going around at the time of her … departure from the scene.
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Ladies fashion is also not your forte it seems!
Well it’s the first time that I’ve ever seen a chiffon, sleeveless ‘jersey’ that goes down to the ankles.
And it’s a ‘Billboard Music Award’
Wow, just WOW.
And you are asking me to take your spliced together photographs seriously?!
Who is doing the photoshopping for you?, it can’t be you, it appears that you aren’t even capable of using a search engine!
WOW, again
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I am not ignoring you here, but it is going to take some time to review my (controversial) Barbara Walters work. I will respond tomorrow.
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By the way, I recommend the book Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon by Dave McGowan, a spook who faked his death in 2015. The book is a limited hangout, meaning he will take you this far, no further, but the places he does take you are fascinating, tracing most of the rock stars of the 1960s-70s to military intelligence families. When I use the word “Intel” I mean “Intel.”
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By the way, in the above book there is only one photo, that of young Jim Morrison with his dad, Admiral George Morrison. It is fake. I will bet you cannot tell why it is fake.
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Yep, very aware of McGowan and the watered down U.K. version, Mark Devlin.
Now I know that I must appear to be in constant contradictory mode but…
Let’s just take Morrison as an example.
McGowan states, I’m paraphrasing, ‘The Doors appeared straight onto the scene from nowhere’
Not true…there are recordings of Ray Manzarek playing Doors music minus the vocals in L.A. clubs a few years before he was introduced to Jim. And Jim Morrison went to film school. And he wrote poetry.
‘That was just Intel creating a false narrative’, I hear you cry.
That use of language is exactly the same with THE sage, it’s an easy method to diffuse any argument when there is not one single iota of evidence. Williams’ turn of phrase just happens to be ‘that’s just the mainstream narrative’
It’s the same when you try to discuss any subject, Covid to Moon landings, ‘you’re just a conspiracy theorist’, meaningless, manipulative use of NLP
I digress, ‘Jim’s father was an Admiral in the Navy responsible for the Potemkin psy-op…so Jim must be a stooge’
Funny, that no counter argument is ever considered by McGowan.
If my father was responsible for such an event that lead to such devastating atrocities I too would not speak to him and I too might end up being rebellious.
This side of the discussion is not even mentioned.
‘The unknown soldier’ is exactly what ‘intel’ would not want the youth to be exposed to.
Mark Devlin..devil in…is worse and either incredibly stupid or another paid agent.
If it’s the latter then he relies on the fact that his audience are incredibly stupid…
‘Bob Marley’s father was in the army, Janis Joplin’s father was in the army, John Lennon’s father was in the navy…see the connection yet?’
Pure drivel backed up with nothing…everyone’s father was in the blinking army, it is absolute fodder for the YouTube viewing masses.
No, I can’t enlarge the photograph and really have no desire to search for and start scanning photographs of Jim & his dad.
No, I’m not avoiding an argument.
It would appear that in fact you are avoiding what I stated in my last comment.
Photographic manipulation was far from basic in the mid 60’s and photographs cannot, and should never be provided as the only means of proof, especially when there is nothing else whatsoever to back up sweeping generalisations.
Limited hangouts, yep, everywhere.
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So, do you ever answer a question? The Jim Morrison photo came from a batch of family photos, and Jim was pasted in to every one of them. They were all fake. And that was the point, that Admiral Morrison was not Jim’s dad. What I am gathering is that rock stars are sometimes assigned to military Intel families, maybe to keep them in line. Maybe that was something that McGowan was hiding, that the relationships of rock stars to Military Intelligence that he exposed were not blood. They were assigned to those families.
John Denver (whose death was also fake) was not the son of Lt Col Deutschendorf. Jim Morrison? He surely faked his death, but he then disappeared. We do not know his real name. You really should read McGowan, as it is a springboard to better thinking.
By the way, Jim’s girlfriend, Pam Courson, went on to become Barbara Walters. We saw more than one of these fake deaths lead to news jobs. That told me that all news outlets are under Intel control, top to bottom. So it should come as no surprise that they all toed the line on Covid too.
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My two penny’s worth (still overpriced): I’ve been leaning towards the Admiral angle being inserted into the Morrison narrative post-mortem. That is, long after the JM persona was retired. It goes ‘viral’ with the publication of Nobody Gets Out Of Here Alive in 1980, nine years after JM ‘died’. The motive may be that if the Admiral has some restricted access because of national security, he can’t be reached by inquiring minds and the two spooks who wrote the book have their version stand unchallenged. This provides camouflage for Morrison’s real parents who may be of some kind of inbred royal lineage. JM’s name may be Morrison and his ‘father’ may be from the same Morrison peerage line, so the Admiral is tapped to support that fiction as an American Dad.
JM himself, if an inbred, could very well have been gay and/or infertile, a problem with these reptiles, which made him a candidate for a celebutard role as a libertine to steer kids off the straight and narrow without worry of actual offspring gumming up the works.
Taylor Swift strikes me as a modern version of a sexless drone leading girls to perdition, though her op has had longer legs than JM’s.
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Everyone is missing a Big FAT CLUE to the truth: Paul McCartney of 1958 has something in his photos that the SAME guy has throughout the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. 2000s till today. Wow did I feel “had” when I saw it. Whoever is behind the PID – even Heather Mills – they know what they are doing. It’s to see who’s really paying attention, or who is EASILY CONNED. Look for the clue – you can’t fake it, not possible. It’s in Paul’s anatomy. I wonder who will see it . . . and finally know.
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‘something’…something in the way he moves…
Except that there is a height discrepancy of quite a few inches, Paul was a tiny figure of a man, ‘he’ is most certainly not, they have different coloured eyes, attached ear lobes on one, detached on the other, Paul was so adept on the bass that he could dance around and not look at the fret board and played complicated patterns while he, whoever he is, constantly looks down and his live bass playing has been simplified compared to what we hear on the albums.
Voice analysis shows two different voices.
And the list goes on…and on…and on…
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I agree, two of them. Twins. None of them were all that good on their instruments, bass being the easiest to learn. That is what Hamburg was all about, recruiting and training. At least two sets of twins, McCartney and Sutcliffe, possibly Lennon though I could not stick it. You’re in over your head.
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Incroyable!
You keep avoiding the ‘WHY?”
Why Mark?
Tell me why. I have asked you 4 times now and you have ‘waived’ that question away 4 times.
Phew, ok, again…who recruited them?, who trained them? and for what reason?
and as someone once asked, ‘where’s your proof?’
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I know you want the answer from Mark and not me, however I will give you mine, knowing that Mark will agree because he’s already given the answer in his previous articles on the matter, which you obviously didn’t read.
So here it is:
Because every time THEY want/need a social shifting they use art, especially music to obtain that. Music is something that unites all cultures around the world and transcends space and time. And at the time they needed young people to become drug addicts. Why? ‘Cause when you have an addiction your problem is surely not to fight the system & stand up for your rights.
Also, they wanted society to “break loose”, so free sex and loads of drugs for everybody.
Elvis “the pelvis” had lead the way but they needed something stronger, more “unhinged” in the 60s.
The Charles Manson story linked to the Beatles “Helter Skelter” song should give it all away if you know how to read between the lines.
Grunge was something similar. Cobain was another puppet meant to push young people towards depression, drug abuse and suicide.
Marilyn Manson, Trent Reznor. Madonna. The list is really long.
All these phenomenons that quickly become trends are not spontaneous, ever. They’re all constructed and promoted to destroy society and its values. Mission accomplished.
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Anna, I certainly didn’t expect you to read reams of messages from me, but I did mention perhaps a couple of times that there was an agenda and that pop music is the perfect vehicle for an agenda to be carried out.
I mentioned that the rebellion against the Vietnam had to be stamped out, hence the tainted LSD given out at festivals.
The prime examples being the Monterey festival, Woodstock, Altamonte etc
Lennon even said in interviews, I’m paraphrasing, “the CIA brought LSD to the youth culture but it backfired on them”
Quite a statement for a supposed ‘agent’
I am even open to the Manson situation being pure theatre, there are a lot of things that just don’t add up there, from the furnishings to the posed look of the dead bodies, who knows.
However, I can say with a certain degree of certainty that the powers that be notice what is going on, what the youth is into, and then take advantage and steer it to their objective.
Sure, once that has been established then it is easy to bring in ‘actors’ to further that agenda.
Kids have always rebelled, blues and drugs were well in place a century before the Beatles, Jack Kerouac pre-dates the Beatles by a decade.
You find what the kids are into and then take control, that’s all I’m saying.
The evidence is absolutely overwhelming that the Beatles were organic, there is literally no evidence at all to the contrary, there is nothing there.
Their effect on youth culture was noticed and then taken advantage of.
That’s my one and only point.
Sweeping generalisations must fall into the false category by being factually unspecific.
Perhaps you are aware that the imposter, call him what you ‘will’ was on the board of directors for the Monterey festival?, there’s a clue there.
His first interview promoting LSD when Paul refused to is another strong clue.
Paul’s reticence to promote LSD is also unbecoming of a supposed recruited ‘agent’
I can’t stress enough that I have no allegiance to the Beatles, I am no fan boy…I want evidence that they were created and there is literally nothing.
As I said there is 60 years of evidence that shows very strongly that the opposite is the case.
Noticed and promoted?, 100%, created by a bunch of suits in an office in England…show me the proof.
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What proof do you have that real Paul died in 1966?
A book or two you’ve read?
Please.
Before trying to gaslight Mark’s work with photo analysis and the likes, take some time to read all he wrote about the subject, and after that try to find proof of what you think it’s not correct in his articles ( and no, do not repeat again that photos are doctored, altered etc. We all know that, we’re not wombats).
But I guess it’s too engaging though, right?
Easier to gaslight and brush off people’s efforts.
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Oh dear, you seem rankled as well!
I mean, whatever happened to friendly disalogue?
Just because you are offended does not mean you are correct, or are you a member of the team behind this ‘blog’?
‘Gaslight’…Forget the Beatles, obviously you too are an authority after seeing spliced together photographs!…
Ok, take a look at the Barbara Walters article.
Mark, or whoever he is, shows us 3 photo’s of Barbara, a 14 year old child, an 18 year old and a 20 year old to make a comparison with a much, much older woman.
He continues –
‘Take a look at the photo’s below – I was able to determine that these woman are NOT the 1961 Barbara Walters. They all bear a close resemblance to the person we know today’
Mark then shows us 5 photographs, none of which are 1961.
They are from 1968, 1970 & 1971
Did you perhaps change after 23 years?
Do you not at all find it somewhat suspect that a ‘researcher’ tells us that the photo’s are of 1961 when they are up to 12 years later.
Let’s take his article concerning Karen Carpenter, titled – ‘Anorexia nervosa not’
(You should take a look if you really want confirmation, my comment might appear out of context otherwise)
Mark, or whoever he is, wrote –
Karen Carpenter is wearing a ‘sports jersey’
A search taking all of 6 seconds shows Karen wearing a dress, of course.
He continues –
‘…a good photo, but I suspect fake, as her skin tone and color is different between head and body.’
A 10 year old could tell you that Karen is wearing make up.
We all know full well that celebrities must wear heavy duty make up for the camera, and especially so before high definition arrived.
I find it amusing that you are actually believing all this.
Of course you aren’t…surely?!
You simply cannot be!
So you actually believe that Bruce Lee became..wait for it.. Judge Lance Ito, the judge of at the O.J. Simpson trial?!
That Stuart Sutcliffe donned a set of false ears and became Andy Warhol?, and that no-one noticed until Mark started this comic book of his with easily detectable photoshopped splicing of celebrities faces?
Ha, f’in Ha
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Just…buzz off. Ya Haven’t read 1% of what’s written here, yet yoi dare to shitpost about the content all over this blog? Damn, I wish ya were at my arm’s length…
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Ha, ha! Are you actually believing yourself?, defending your ‘steaming bowl of nonsense’ ?, as you put it.
If you are not a fraudulent disinformation agent out to deceive and muddy the waters for the gullible and supcepticle then there can only be one conclusion, that you have deceived yourself.
The term is ‘pathological liar’ – ‘A pathological liar tells lies and stories that fall somewhere between conscious lying and delusion. They sometimes believe their own lies’
If that is the case then I sincerely apologise if I have offended you.
And with hand on heart I truly, truly mean that.
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The whole of the OJ affair is above your pay grade. Just know that 1) Nobody died, and 2) OJ never spent a day in prison.
You appear to be losing it.
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I am not talking about the O.J. trial
I am talking about your Bruce Lee post.
Please Mark, leave it.
I have to conclude that all is not right here.
I sincerely wish you the best.
Bye
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At last, a stormout! You’re very lucky I am a patient man. You became very personally insulting. Any other blog would have hung you out to dry a week ago. So go now, work on Billy Shears. He’s been lonely.
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Not everyone, but you are missing far more than you know.
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Why would John Lennon write a song called ‘How do you sleep’ in 1971, saying ‘The only thing you done was Yesterday’ referring to the song, that was written in 1965, did he write it to annoy someone who is supposed to be dead?
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I was not aware of that one, but it strengthens my suspicion that John was the honest one..
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I enjoy these posts of yours too, Mark!
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Is Pete the same person that endlessly debated the moon landing hoax? You two sure like to argue. Of course we don’t know for sure what went on behind the scenes, however it’s now obvious that the Beatles aren’t what we thought they were. Mark’s work holds up and i’m convinced. I think Mark you are the first to claim Paul had a twin brother? I would think John, the Pauls, Ringo(who has been replaced) and George(who I highly doubt died because of his hokey death story) would have somehow thrown us another clue unless I missed it. John could do an interview pretending to be someone else. They will take it to their graves, no way can they come out and expose what they really were.
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The one who argued the Moon landings relentlessly was Petra, not Pete. I guess you could say that I discovered the McCartney twins, but it is a bit weird: Mr. Mathis did a paper in which he claimed, due to two live birth certificates, that Elvis was twins. He then wrote that the whole McCartney having died business might also be hiding twins. I looked at their childhood photos, and there they were, two of them. But it is almost as if I was guided there by MM.
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“It was 20 years ago today, that Sgt. Pepper taught the band to play…”
Do tell: who is this Sergeant Pepper?
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The Beatles were the most powerful Freemasons since the days of Mozart. Because Paul and Ringo are still alive, we will not know whether Paul, John, Ringo and George were Freemasons, if ever at all. The Freemasons like secrecy, however they have disclosed members over the years. But typically we will not be made aware of members until posthumous time-frame that is arbitrary. But all the songs and symbolism on record covers, and all footage we have available, certainly persuade me personally that Beatles are 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons. Unlike Mathis the Dogmatist, I will allow you to make that conclusion on your own terms, but my extensive research leads me to this conclusion. The information is quite readily available in the archives. Should you object, I’m very open to hear your objections. And I will dutifully match your objections against what I know to be true.
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Now, if interested, you can all refer to this quote in Mr. Miles Mathis’ update to his older paper on Monica Lewinsky. An interesting and informative paper nonetheless, but lacking in one major key detail which actually unlocks the Clinton origins, a far cry from Mathis’ conclusion. And I quote:
“It also explains his college membership in the Order of DeMolay, a freemason and spook organization whose other members include Walt Disney, Paul Harvey, Mel Carnahan, Burl Ives, John Wayne, Jim Wright, (Speaker of the House), John Steinbeck, Pete Rose, Edgar Mitchell, Elmer Lower (president of ABC News), Mark Hatfield, Reubin Askew, Frank Borman, Carl Albert (Speaker of the House), and several
other state governors.”
Quite of list of names, the few that have been disclosed, share membership into this elite youth Freemason secret society. But Mathis misses the biggest name of all! Jacques de Molay!!!! And therein lies the answer, one which is too big for a man of Mathis’ erudition to miss. In fact, the Order of De Molay is no Local Blue Lodge. Jacques de Molay, according to his Wiki bio, was the 23rd and final Grand Master of the Knights Templars. But the Wiki writer need rephrase that statement. De Molay was the last Grandmaster of the Knights Templars the organization disclosed. From 1250 to the present day, that Grandmaster is probably the man behind the curtain. Of course, it’s all speculation.
Why would the Knights Templars be so deeply concerned about the Holy Land during the Crusades? There are many answers to that question, I’m sure. But for me the answer is quite simple, if looking at that question through the lens of the Freemasonic Order and its stated historical purpose found in most esoteric literature written on the subject. The Knights Templars were there to reclaim and to guard the ancient site of Solomon’s First Temple, because Freemasons determined allegorical purpose is to one day build the Third Temple upon that site. To erect again the pillars of Jachin and Boaz on that sacred site.
Jacques de Molay was the last to lead that charge and would oversee the Order’s eventual retreat from that conflict which ended in the 13th Century. So how is it then that the aforementioned names above are members of the most secret Freemasonic Order for Youth in the world, named for a Knight Templar? Also odd too that De Molay was burned at the stake on Friday, October 13, 1307. Thus giving birth to the notorious superstition with he number 13. Most skyscrapers in New York do not have a 13th floor, and Friday the 13th is still revered by the masses as a day of misfortune.
I might add too that Miles leaves out of that list Fran Tarkenton and Alex Spanos, who currently owns the Los Angeles Chargers. Odd too that a youth organization could produce such a wide and varying array of American Icons, no?
You also just don’t bring your oldest son to the DeMolay headquarters and knock on the door and fill out an application. Clearly, it is one of the most elite private youth groups in the world, with tremendous reach around the globe. You must be able to trace your genealogy, at minimum, to a member of the Knights Templars. But it’s almost certain those lines go back to the Holy Land and the Twelve Tribes. And odd, too, this association is directly associated to the last Grand Master of the Knights Templars, one of the most powerful and secretive of all the Chivalric Orders in Medieval Europe.
How could Miles miss Jacques de Molay?
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You know why, and I do too.
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