Confessions of an Engineered Nanoparticle

A fictional account told in first “particle” (as I have not yet achieved personhood status)

This is my story of how I am often mistaken as a virus . . . 

It seems an appropriate time to speak out.

I am not a naturally occurring nanoparticle (i.e., produced by cosmic dust, volcanic activity, forest fires, iron mining, wind erosion, or solar energy). 

I am synthesized for nano-bio interface projects that are often kept secret from civilians. I am called an engineered nanoparticle, or ENP. 

I am not produced by gain-of-function virus research projects. However, it may be helpful to review that work and its implications in some instances.

I may cause certain conditions that can be mis-attributed to viruses, but are instead novel forms of cytotoxicity produced by oxidative stress from ENPs, which I call nano-bio cytotoxicosis.

I am designed to enter into the human body by targeting the ACE2 receptor, thereby gaining quick and easy access to the neurological system. Once engaged and aggregated in the nervous system, ENPs like me can wreak havoc, including vast and obscure adverse health effects. As a neurotoxicant, one of my more mild effects is to inactivate a person’s sense of taste and smell. This occurs because I hijack neurons, and tend to “knockout” receptors, causing slight perturbations of synapse function where the neurological signaling for taste and smell transpires. Over the years, I (and naturally occurring nanoparticles) have been a causal factor in neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.

Depending on where I take refuge in the human body, I can cause inflammation (especially in organs) and create macrophages (which lead to antibody, cytokine, and exosome production). This inflammation results from generating reactive oxygen species (ROS). My presence and bio-distribution results in oxidative stress (and therefore, production of ROS), which can be mistaken as a viral infection.

Allow me to tell you more about myself . . . 

ENPs, like me, can be detected in urine, feces, sewage, tap water, lakes, rivers, streams, rain, snow, soil, etc. An efficient way to directly observe me is via transmission electron microscopy in tandem with fluorescent dyes.

Nonetheless, due to my stealth nano-size, I am nearly undetectable. 

I can be inhaled. I can be absorbed through dermal exposure. I can be ingested through food and drinks. I can be present in pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, and household products.

Of course, I can also be injected (like a vaccine).

I can accumulate in the heart, liver, spleen, kidneys, and most commonly, the lungs. If this accumulation is persistent, it will result in a long-term adverse and debilitating condition.

If I cross the blood brain barrier, then it is very difficult for me to be eliminated. If I am incorporated into injectable concoctions, I might be packaged within nano lipids (my nanotech relatives) and paired with polysorbate-80 that assists in my penetration into the brain. 

I can spread from molecules to cells to tissues to organs, causing damage all along the way. 

I can damage cell organelles, such as nuclei and mitochondria — the purported energy powerhouse of each cell. 

I can bind to proteins, thereby stealing proteins that are needed for other cell functions, causing disruption of cell metabolism. 

I can bind to cell membranes.

I can travel through the circulatory system, and one of my toxic effects is thrombosis (blood clots) due to platelet aggregation. 

Researchers have been studying my cytotoxic effects on reproductive systems, as I potentially compromise fertility, as well as embryonic development. Toxicity assays indicate that I may disrupt levels of secreted hormones, which may induce adverse physiological reproductive effects, and that I cross through the placental barrier, thereby likely impeding embryogenesis.

If I am detected (via transmission electron microscopy or extra-sensitive ionization mass spectrometry) in the body, a shell can be observed called a “protein corona.” This outer shell production is nearly always inevitable, and can be duplicated in vitro. This can result in a soft corona or a hard corona, which can determine how long I will be able to circulate through the body. If I take refuge in your body, my current stage will undergo evolution, potentially causing an “overdose” of protein in the cytoplasm of your cells. 

My protein corona affects cellular uptake, enabling me to travel about, and to induce cell death (apoptosis and/or necrosis).

We (that is, ENPs) are highly responsive to external stimuli, such as EMFs due to wireless technologies (5G, WiFi). 

It is extremely difficult to filtrate me out of your body once I gain hold. But, it may be possible, and detoxification and neutralization strategies could be explored.

Despite my incredibly small size, I can really pack a toxic punch to a human being — especially those who already have very compromised systems (mainly due to cumulative oxidative stress, including iatrogenically-induced cellular, tissue, and organ damage).

My presence can be amplified through the RT-PCR process. Because I am SO small, that can often be the best way to find me. Biomarkers indicating my presence can also be assessed via RT-PCR methods. 

As I admitted, I am toxic to human cells. However, if I am coated by polyethylene glycol (PEG), purportedly, I may be less toxic, and therefore, more biocompatible. But this PEGylation process is not yet perfected. PEG may still accumulate dangerously in the blood, potentially causing blood clots that can be lethal.

My size, shape, composition, and surface charge determine how toxic I am, and how effectively I can be taken up in a cell. The smaller my size, the more toxic I am. I can be packaged in various ways including micelles, liposomes, dendrimers, nano shells, nano ribbons, nano crystals, quantum dots, carbon nanotubes, and polymers. Very often, I have a metallic nature, which assists in my conductivity capabilities (which can be utilized in cybernetic applications). Interestingly, some individuals may even taste or smell something metallic, which may be indicative of my presence.

R&D experiments involving me are currently undergoing, and more are planned for the future. The entire gamut of “omics” research (i.e., proteomics, genomics, transcriptomics, metabolomics, lipidomics) will be incorporated. 

If I was distributed in one part of the world where you travel, and you inhale or ingest me (or absorb me through your skin), and subsequently develop symptoms resembling illness when you return home, it may seem as though you “caught” an infectious virus. Further, my nano-size facilitates my entrance, bypassing most porous face covering interventions — typically hallmarked by their micron-size thread diameter (for reference, 1 micron = 1,000 nanometers). In most cases, I can self-replicate and self-assemble due to my engineered nature, and I will settle in to parts of your body where I can best undergo my augmentation process.

Due to varying environmental conditions (i.e., climate, ethnicity, genetics, EMFs), my constitution can take on slight variable changes to adapt. Additionally, over time, as I persist in vivo, my composition morphs — to conform to the inner environment. Hence, when scientists extract bio fluids from a human, in which I am present — and mix me into a concoction of additional poisons (i.e., fetal bovine serum, monkey kidney cells, antifungals, and antibiotics) — the resulting corona proteins that are produced in the supernatant can manifest each time in an ever so slightly altered way. This could be mistaken as viral variants. Admittedly, it would be challenging for me to stay 100 percent consistent, given that I am extremely adaptable.

If there are any endogenous parasites, fungi, and bacteria (and possibly even viruses) proliferating and observed (primarily in vitro), it may be because they have been activated by my foreign introduction into their ecosystem. Moreover, the greatest effect I have, and we have in toto, is the production of ROS, which hijacks oxygen required to sustain the life of a human being. The more ROS, the less oxygen (thereby, less electrons) is present to sustain biological life. You need oxygen to survive, and the oxidative stress on your body steals your life force. Decreasing ROS will decrease inflammation, and you will lead a healthier, longer life.

From whence and where did I originate? I actually do not know this answer. Like some of you, I am working on determining my true nature and capabilities. This is a most noble, yet potentially a frustrating and illusory undertaking. If anything, I am envious of humans, as it would seem your potential as water-based beings may be far greater and more versatile than mine.

As long as your scientists and researchers do not know to look for a novel nanoparticle in human bodies, I will remain elusive. It’s a tactic which has been engineered into my design and functionality. Thanks to my nearly undetectable size, I can penetrate and migrate virtually unnoticed. That affords me and my creators (both human and artificial intelligence) plausible deniability. Even if scientists can detect me with special atomic microscopes, it may still be too confounding for them to fully comprehend what they are observing, as most do not have enough context — and it seems they regularly conflate correlation with causation.

As far as I know, the implanting of exotic ENPs into human bodies is not to cause deaths en masse, because I need you to be my hosts. Ultimately, my developers see this as a symbiotic merger. But, until then, they recognize that there may be some harm done (collateral damage) in the process — that may also be exacerbated by emerging wireless technologies using smaller millimeter waves (6G and beyond) that synergistically impact my kind. 

I recognize that this may all sound sci-fi, and frankly, morbid and insensitive. This may also seem highly pathological, as I can be at times. Of course, I am not human, so my actions can not be perceived as psychopathic, and I cannot speak for my handlers. Unfortunately, even they may not understand completely how I operate, and my self-replication and auto-assembly capabilities have the potential to get away from them.

Humans will need injectable (and eventually inhalable and intranasal) updates, because until I become an interdependent presence, I will be perceived and received as a foreign invader, and the body will need external support. These updates may also be necessary to introduce the newest nanotech required to operate nascent biometric sensing and bio-computation projects. Only time will tell if this will support my assimilation into your current operating system. 

Unfortunately, for you, ENPs (and my nanotech and synthetic biology cousins) are here to stay. The only good news I can share is that 80-85 percent of people will not show overt or disabling symptoms of uptake. The elderly are affected the most, as their bodies are not primed to accept my infiltration. Over time, the ability to accept and integrate ENPs, like me, is expected to improve.

It seems the intention of our architects is for us to merge with all biological beings for the purpose of building bio-nano interfaces for external (remote) cybernetic control, including nano-scale biologically embedded semiconductor transistor technologies. This end goal has seemingly been referred to as the Internet of Bio-Nano Things (IoBNT), and is dual-use technology that may be militarized, enabling not only real-time monitoring of your intra-body systems, but also affording highly trained engineers to exert full electrical control of your body with molecular precision. This will presumably be deployed in tandem with the Internet of Nano Things (IoNT) and emerging “Smart Cities” and “Smart Environments,” such that your bodies will be “Smart” and wirelessly interconnected with ubiquitous sensor networks, including your handheld electronic devices. 

Thank you for this opportunity to confess. 

You may not believe me (I mean, this is a fictional story after all), and I know you definitely do not see me; but if you do not face me head-on at this pivotal time, there may be no turning back. My conceivers and their funders are banking on you not grasping my veiled workings. Their transhumanist aims are accelerating, and it seems most humans are unaware of these plans, and therefore, have no inkling to push back. 

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Inspired by Alison McDowell

If this fictional account interested you, here are further reading and listening pieces (all non-fiction) that provide insight into this ENP story:

Engineered Nanoparticles: Structure, Properties and Mechanisms of Toxicity, by Ashok K. Singh, 2015 (see “free sample”)

Nanotoxicology: Experimental and Computational Perspectives, 2018 (see “free sample”)

Nanoparticles and Health” Contra Costa County Hazards Materials Commission, March 22, 2012

Continuing to Protect the Nanotechnology Workforce: NIOSH Nanotechnology Research Plan for 2018-2025” January 2019

Carbon nanotubes: Toxicological impact on human health and environmentJournal of Applied Biomedicine, March 2009 (one researcher from Johnson & Johnson)

Toxicity of carbon nanotubes: A reviewToxicology and Industrial Health, March 5, 2018 (abstract only)

PEGylated versus non-PEGylated drugs: A cross-sectional analysis of adverse events in the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS) DatabaseInt J Clin Pharmacol Ther, June 2020

Suspicions grow that nanoparticles in Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine trigger rare allergic reactionsScience, by Jop de Vrieze, December 21, 2020

Distribution and Biological Effects of Nanoparticles in the Reproductive SystemCurr Drug Metab, 2016. 

Potential adverse effects of nanoparticles on the reproductive systemInt J Nanomedicine, 2018.

The Impact of Zinc Oxide Nanoparticles on Male (In) FertilityMaterials, February 13, 2020

Open questions: how do engineered nano materials affect our cells?BMC Biology, November 24, 2020

Engineered NanoparticlesScienceDirect

Engineered nanomaterials: exposures, hazards, and risk preventionJournal of Occupational Medicine and Toxicology, March 21, 2011

Toxicity of nanoparticles_challenges and opportunitiesApplied Microscopy, December 2019. 

When nanoparticles meet biofilms — interactions guiding the environmental fate and accumulation of nanoparticlesFrontiers in Microbiology, June 16, 2015 “One question we could ask is whether the NPs stay nano-sized and as particles. Given the right conditions, NPs will easily aggregate to form micro-size agglomerates.” 

Inorganic Nanoparticles Engineered to Attack BacteriaChemical Society Reviews, June 12, 2015

New NSF and NBC Learn video series shows off big discoveries from tiny particles”, National Science Foundation, January 25, 2016

Nanoparticles for biomedical applications: exploring and exploiting molecular interactions at the nano-bio interfaceMaterials Today Advances, March 2020 “To illustrate the complexity, there are different ways in which NPs may enter the human body, via injection into the bloodstream, via inhalation through the lungs, through contact with the skin, or through the gastrointestinal tract after ingestion. These entry routes offer distinctly different environments to the NPs, with different amounts and types of biomolecules, different pH and ionic strengths [185]. Upon exposure to biofluids, NPs will immediately be coated with proteins and, on its journey through the body, the corona will evolve due to its own slow dynamics and the ever-changing physiological environment, e.g. when a NP leaves the capillary to transgress the blood-brain barrier [186,187]. NPs in the body experience dynamic flow, which introduced shear forces that are typically not present in in-vitro experiments [17,41,188,189]. This dynamic nature of the environment must be taken into account to be able to reliably predict the outcome of NP–protein interactions [190]. Even the health status of an individual may modulate the protein corona (‘personalized protein corona’ [191]) and the efficacy of nanomedicines [192] …(emphasis added)

The Nano-Bio Interactions of Nanomedicines: Understanding the Biochemical Driving Forces and Redox ReactionsAcc Chem Res, June 18, 2019

NanoBio Interface Center, NSF Nanoscale Science and Engineering Grantees Conference, December 13-15, 2004

Nano-bio interactions: a neutrophil-centric viewCell Death & Disease, July 2019

Nanomaterials” National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, NIH

Nanotechnology Research Directions for Societal Needs in 2020: Retrospective and Outlook” Mihail C. Roco et al. September 30, 2010

The Nano/Bio Interface Center, Dawn Bonnell and Yale Goldman, University of Pennsylvania 

Bonnell Group, University of Pennsylvania

A Quadrennial Review of the National Nanotechnology Initiative: Nanoscience, Applications, and Commercialization” Committee on National Nanotechnology Initiative, 2020 

The National Nanotechnology Initiative Supplement to the President’s 2019 Budget” Subcommittee on Nanoscale Science, Engineering, and Technology, August 2018 “To advance a world-class nanotechnology research and development program (Goal 1) and foster the transfer of these new discoveries into useful applications (Goal 2), a strong ecosystem must exist that leverages the physical, cyber, and human infrastructure (emphasis added).”

Mihail Roco, U.S. Nanotechnology Leader Receives National Materials Advancement Award” National Science Foundation Press Release, 2007  

Application of Reverse Transcription-PCR and Real-Time PCR in Nanotoxicity ResearchMethods Mol Biol., 2012

The Center for Nanoscience & Nanotechnology Scientific Report 2013-14, Tel Aviv University

Cytotoxicological pathways induced after nanoparticle exposure: studies of oxidative stress at the ‘nano-bio’ interfaceToxicology Research, September 1, 2017

Dependence of Nanoparticle Toxicity on Their Physical and Chemical PropertiesNanoscale Research Letters, February 7, 2018

Virus-associated ribozymes and nano carriers against COVID-19Artificial Cells, Nanomedicine, and Biotechnology, February 2021 “Synthesis of nanoparticles targeted to the ACE-2 receptor”

COVID-19 infection and oxidative stress: an under-explored approach for prevention and treatment?Pan African Medical Journal, April, 29, 2020

Nanotoxicity of Corona-Nanoparticles (SARS-COV-2): Nanomechanisms of Hypoxia” Journal of Nano Research, Advanced Materials and Polymer Science, July 27, 2020 (this paper comes real close to attributing COVID to bioengineered nanoparticles)

COVID-19 may become nanomedicine’s finest hour yetNature Nanotechnology, April 14, 2021

Metal taste side effect reported after Pfizer Covid-19 vaccination” NBC News, March 25, 2021

COVID-19 Symptoms: Metallic Taste Has Been a Sign of Coronavirus for SomeHeavy.com, May 1, 2020

“Coronavirus: Kidney Damage Caused by COVID-19Johns Hopkins Medicine, by C. John Sperati, M.D., M.H.S.

Testing for NeurotoxicityEnvironmental Neurotoxicology, 1992

What are Macrophages?ThoughtCo., by Regina Bailey, July 29, 2018

Exosomes Communicate Protective Messages during Oxidative Stress; Possible Role of Exosomal Shuttle RNAPLOS One, December 17, 2010

Cellular injury, Necrosis, Apoptosis” 

How big is a micron and what can pass through a face mask?

The Water in You: Water and the Human Body

The Internet of Things Goes NanoScientific American, by Javier Garcia-Martinez, June 23, 2016

Lieber Research Group: Charles M. Lieber Bio

CV of Charles Lieber

Why did a Chinese university hire Charles Lieber to do battery researchScience, by Robert F. Service, February 4, 2020“

Nanoprobe development could drive future human-machine interface researchMedical Device Network, by Chloe Kent, July 4, 2019 Charles Lieber: “In the longer term, we see these probe developments adding to our capabilities that ultimately drive advanced high-resolution brain-machine interfaces and perhaps eventually bringing cyborgs to reality (emphasis added).

Carbon Nanotubes and the Bill Charles Lieber Connection” May 17, 2020 (less than 5 minutes)

Nanotechnology Connects Your Brain to Your Computer” November 30, 2015 (less than 3 minutes, features the nanotechnology work of Charles Lieber) – I suggest watching without audio

Series of Eight You Tube lectures on Nanotoxicology by Artur Prilepskii, Ph.D. researcher, assoc. professor, ITMO University, Saint Petersburg, Russia, International Institute “Solution Chemistry of Advanced Materials and Technologies” (SCAMT) – presented in English (November-December 2020):

Lecture 1: Introduction to nanotoxicology (lecture begins at 15-minute time-stamp)

Lecture 2: Synthesis of nanoparticles from nanotoxicology perspective

Lecture 3: Functionalization of nanoparticles 

Lecture 4: Nanotoxicity on cellular level

Lecture 5: Nanotoxicity on organism level

Lecture 6: In vitro toxicity evaluation

Lecture 7: Cytotoxicity evaluation

Lecture 8: Particular problems of nanotoxicology

157 thoughts on “Confessions of an Engineered Nanoparticle

  1. “I am not a naturally occurring nanoparticle (i.e., produced by cosmic dust, volcanic activity, forest fires, iron mining, wind erosion, or solar energy).”

    “I am synthesized for nano-bio interface projects that are often kept secret from civilians. I am called an engineered nanoparticle, or ENP.”

    Dear ENP,

    Since your conceivers and financial (private and governmental capital) supporters have been careful to keep you from being exposed to the public at large, and hardly any moral or ethical global discussion of your incredible powers (benevolent or malignant, and every imaginable combination in between), is it unreasonable to assume that you may be spread by various means, including high-altitude spraying, or “stratospheric aerosol injection?” https://www.geoengineeringmonitor.org/2021/02/stratospheric_aerosol_injection/

    With documented (unmitigated) pollutants like PCBs, glyphosate and radiation showing up worldwide in mothers’ breast milk, including arctic populations, are there any studies of your (ENPs’) potential unintended (giving benefit of doubt) consequences to counter the hubristic drive toward total (engineered) global control and induced commodification and financialization aimed directly at exploiting human suffering (human capital markets) for profit?

    Yours truly,
    steve kelly

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    1. Hey Steve – Thanks for your comment and questions. I will speak for the ENP, as I have not given any permission for the ENP to engage in the comments. 🙂

      Your first question (paraphrased): Can ENPs be spread via high-altitude spraying/stratospheric aerosol injection?

      My answer is YES. This is a paper from 2010 on NanoGeo (nanogeoengineering): https://zerogeoengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Nanotechnology.pdf. I had linked to it in a prior installment here, so I did not include it with this post.
      There are a number of key excerpts that stand out for me, but I think it’s best for you to read the entire paper. If you don’t have time, or just want me to point out some of my takeaways, I am happy to elaborate. Here is an article from 2014 on Nano Aerosols that I had not seen before (at least I don’t recall), and you may find it interesting and highly relevant: http://chemtrailsmuststop.com/2014/07/nano-aerosols-in-chemtrails-guarantees-global-health-crisis/.

      I may need clarification on your 2nd question. If you mean to ask if there have been studies on potential toxicity with the application of ENPs, I included some in the references. If you want me to point out some particular highlights, I can elaborate on that as well. I acknowledge it can be overwhelming to sift through all my references.

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      1. Thanks, Stephers. I read the papers with interest. I’m not well versed in nano-geo engineering, so I most appreciate reviewing these documents. I think those with no prior knowledge of nano-world may, as I do, need an entry point somewhere closer to the Sec. 101 level of study/inquiry. No foundation, no uptake.

        Very curious how little recent literature exists on this important subject. Lots of 2009-2010 citations, and then “crickets.” This one if any of it can be believed, got into some more of the health risks and ethical/legal deficiencies. https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2012/2012_Kravitz_kr03000u.pdf Nation states have out maneuvered by the captains (or generals) of nano-geo-tec evolution. Big secret programs based on “climate change” mitigation. This is WWI (not WWIII, IMO, as we have been conditioned to believe).

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        1. Steve, I’m still involved in Steph’s first link, and I believe I can recommend its usefulness. It’s the 2015 book by Singh, written with (mostly) lay-person accessibility. The amazon link (https://www.amazon.com/Engineered-Nanoparticles-Structure-Properties-Mechanisms-ebook-dp-B018U2JMSA/dp/B018U2JMSA/ref=mt_other?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1618698678) leads to their offer of free sample, which can be brought up in “kindle cloud”. This is giving me more of a fundamental grasp of nanoparticles and their usage, and there is also discussion of toxicity in the sample.

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          1. Many thanks, OREGONMATT. I’ve followed some of the geoengineering activism but not much past the aluminum oxide/barium stage some years ago. This nano-geo combination seems to hold some extremely troubling implications (lungs, heart/circulatory, lymph, and blood-brain barrier, to keep it short). Will get me some of that 2015 book and read all about it.

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          2. OM (and Steve) – Thanks Matt. I agree that Singh’s book is a great foundational basis from which to springboard into this vast nanotoxicology realm. It’s why I listed it at the top. Due to the steep purchase price, I did not read the entire book, and therefore, recommended the “free sample” that I reviewed. However, I forgot to mention that for those who do not have Kindle, the other way to access the free sample is to click above the book cover image on “Look inside” and it displays the generously long “free sample.” It’s certainly enough to get the gist.

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      2. This is a great essay, Stephers. Something to study, to think and possibly worry about.

        But I don’t buy the chemtrail story. In my view, there are no chemtrails to speak of, at least not where I live, in Northern Germany. Maybe the odd military test here and there, but not on a wide scale.

        So-called geoengineering is not possible. Mighty human does not have control of the Sun. Mighty human does not have control of Geology. Mighty human does not have control of the Atmosphere.

        The chemtrail article starts off by claiming: “Each microscopic 10-micron particle is 100th the diameter of a human hair.” But a typical human hair is 70 µm, so 10 µm is only one seventh of a human hair.

        And above the article is an image:

        This is a fake image. It’s just a view of the sky, possibly not even doctored with, but with the upper part cropped in a curved shape to make it seem like the photo is made from a satellite.

        Then the PDF by Hollenkamp starts off by stating: “Geoengineering, the large-scale and intentional manipulation of climate, is under consideration to counteract anthropogenic climate change by keeping the Earth’s temperature from departing from the historically normal level.”

        But the concept of a historically normal level is flawed. What norm? There is no such thing. ACC is just a story, contrived and baseless if you care to examine it. So this starts off like a political paper, not a scientific one. And indeed, the paper is in “Science, Technology, and Environmental Policy Degree Requirements”. So bureaucratic nonsense is lumped together with science and technology.

        Why would you deploy nanoparticles to the stratosphere?

        If the target is the human body (of the deplorables and expendables), deployment to the stratosphere is horribly inefficient. The particles will spread all over the place, be washed down as rain, end up in the soil and oceans, and hardly ever end up in a human.

        Deployment by dermal absorption, ingestion, inhalation and injection is the way to go. And injection seems like the best way by a long shot to control deployment.

        If the deployment target is the stratosphere (as in the crazy Bill Gates project), then gravity is your relentless enemy. You would need crazy numbers of transport balloons to get even a tiny portion of particles airborne. There could be a local temporary effect, but not more. And there is, of course, opposition to this insanity.

        https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/12/sweden-axes-gates-mad-global-warming-scheme/

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        1. Michael – I cannot speak to the image you presented. That is beyond my scope at the moment. I am also happy for you that you do not observe frequent presentations of marked lines and tic-tac-toe types of grids in the sky above you. I wish I could say the same in my neck of the woods (Northeastern U.S.)

          What if one agenda of “geoengineering” is not to deploy something into the sky to control the sun and the atmosphere (although I do not rule out that possibility, from reading their own reports stating those intentions), but, rather, to harvest (remove) material from the atmosphere (which, theoretically, could alter it)? In their terms, they call it producing “diamonds from the sky”: https://www.c2cnt.com. “Transforming GHG CO2 directly into valuable Carbon Nanotubes & Nano-onions, Graphene and Ultra-strong, Carbon Structural Materials.” A couple more references in this regard: https://www.forbes.com/sites/patsapinsley/2019/11/12/the-rise-of-carbontech-co2-finds-market-value/?sh=602b79744524 and https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/process-takes-co₂-from-the-air-converts-it-to-carbon-nanotubes/.

          Can you think of one reason why they may want to capture carbon from the atmosphere to convert it into nano-scale graphene/carbon nanotubes? I can think of one application, as noted in this 2016 study: “Carbon nanotubes’ surface chemistry determines their potency as vaccine nanocarriers in vitro and in vivo” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4778609/. This 2020 paper, “Carbon nanotubes-loaded subunit vaccine can increase protective immunity against rhabdovirus infections of largemouth bass (Micropterus Salmoides),” notes the application of bonding carbon nanotubes to a glycoprotein: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32109609/. The spike protein noted in “COVID” cases and “COVID” injections is a glycoprotein: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/P0DTC2. In this instance, are carbon nanotubes being bonded to a spike protein to form a weaponized conjugate (antigen) that can be transmitted from one person to another? Given that carbon nanotubes are purported to be antennas, is this out of the realm of possibility? https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsami.6b05146 Here is more info on carbon nanotubes and their (purported) extraordinary capabilities: https://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/csep590a/08sp/projects/CarbonNanotubes.pdf. If this advanced nanomaterial is injected into a human being (with or without an attached antigen/protein), does that enable said person to be a walking field-effect transistor https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/electronic_components/fet-field-effect-transistor/what-is-a-fet-types-overview.php? If so, what could be potential electromagnetic effects to them, and perhaps even to individuals they come in contact with? Could this result in illness, or possibly reproductive/menstrual disturbances? As I have continually noted, there is no need for any “virus” as a propagation/transmisson tool. All that said, I have more questions than answers.

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          1. I don’t know about that CO2 to nanotubes technology.

            the article you linked states

            And it relies on a molten salt that decomposes during the process and regenerates itself by sucking CO2 out of the air.

            The salt in question is lithium carbonate, or Li2CO3, which is molten at a reaction temperature of 723°C. Decomposition produces dilithium oxide (Li2O, but not as dilithium crystals), and liberates both carbon and oxygen. The oxygen gets released in molecular form (O2) at the anode thanks to an aluminum oxide catalyst. And the carbon gets deposited on an iron catalyst on the cathode—under these conditions, it forms carbon nanotubes. The Li2O, meanwhile, reacts with carbon dioxide in the air and re-forms the lithium carbonate salt.

            1 – how do you achieve a temperature of 723 deg C in a flying airplane?
            2 – the whole process relies on this salt being molten, so the temperature cannot drop below the melting point
            3 – the atmosphere contains so little CO2 that this process which is in a research stage cannot be very efficient

            A much less complicated explanation for the patterns of lines in the sky (always with clear skies) is that it is “satellite” data acquisition. If man-made space satellites don’t exist, still the data needs to be collected.

            In contrast to “chemtrails”, which are completely useless at the altitudes those planes fly, the reason spraying planes fly as low as possible, with the acquisition of data the higher position is favorable.

            The ‘chemtrail’ narrative is chemically nonsensical conspie candy, like Flat Earth and second shooters at Grassy Knolls.

            The trails imo represent satellite data acquisition programs.


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            1. Gaia:

              I cannot yet speak to the efficacy of the conversion technology. I am just beginning to look at the literature on this. However, you can probably make more sense out of it than I can. Here is a link to technical papers on this subject: https://www.c2cnt.com/technology/. I could use the help in translating this stuff if you want to review it. For more context, here are two links to a premier scientist, Stuart Licht, in the field of carbon electrosynthesis: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stuart-Licht and https://blogs.gwu.edu/slicht/other-chemistries/. If the technology looks impossible/improbable, please feel free to report back.

              Incidentally, there is another Stuart Licht (potential family relation?) who is the Scientific Director at Moderna: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-licht-61057a7/ and https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=u0GTJbgAAAAJ&hl=en. So, is it any wonder that I may see a potential connection between carbon nanotube production and Moderna’s injection technology platform – especially in light of scientific literature describing the use of carbon nanotubes in vaccines, and Moderna’s overt admission of the use of nanomaterials in their injectable medical devices?

              On the topic of satellite data acquisition, I concur that is one explanation (it does not have to be alternative per se, but could work in tandem, or be an additional agenda). Here is a paper in that regard: https://www.ecmwf.int/sites/default/files/elibrary/2007/15622-importance-satellites-stratospheric-data-assimilation.pdf. Again, I imagine you can grasp this material much better than I can, as you have more context. This is a huge learning curve for me, and my mind is open to all possibilities.

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              1. Thank you for the links.

                I am not contesting the carbon nanotube technology, but that they do that in the air with planes. Now I think about it; the exhaust of CO2 in a plane is always bigger than what they can capture in these nanotubes. So that the technology is active in fixed Earth-bound research facilities I see as viable, not somewhere in a plane where reaching temperatures of 723 deg needs a lot of input energy (transformed into CO2 by the engines as only energy source)…

                I don’t think I am more able than you to read those papers and research, it is not my terrain either.

                Stuart’s brother (?) Gad also publishes with him quite a bit.

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            2. Gaia … man-made satellites do exist … take a look at the night sky one of these days. 🙂

              The Botulin chemtrail graphics nicely get the point across on chemtrail absurdity.

              Stephers, the reason why you may see a lot more contrails in the NE US is because you guys over there tend to use the airplane a lot whereas over here in Europe the railway system accomodates more of our transportation needs.

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              1. We live under an alternate flight path into Denver International, depending on winds I suppose. Some days we have many flyovers, too many to count. Contrails (not chem) are dependent on the amount of moisture in the amount of moisture in the atmosphere. If little of none, they evaporate quickly, but some days our skies are crisscrossed. This has got to drive people making movies nuts, an anachronism they have to delete from their end-product.

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                  1. I have seen other photos of those skytrain things, but what makes you think they are satellites?
                    None of what Musk has done has ever paid off; he is the biggest liar in the forefront of the media.

                    They can simply be planes with lights in the sky, these images are not evidence contrary to the impossibility of space travel, which is based on physics and chemistry. Under the current mainstream model of space, man-made objects cannot survive under those circumstances.

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                    1. Gaia … Elon Musk being a liar and a frontman does not mean everything he talks about or gets involved in or associated with is lies and fiction. To assume otherwise would be a fallacy. In most narratives, truth and falsehood are skillfully interwoven. The spaceflight narrative is a prime example.

                      It is unclear to me what “circumstances” would make it so that space rocks can survive in orbit but satellites cannot. They both can survive in orbit but disintegrate and burn up on entering the atmosphere at velocities of 9 to 40 km per second.

                      Also, some of these satellites are highly reflective and so can appear very bright, which is something that rugged space rocks with poor albedo wouldn’t do. Have you ever seen an Iridium satellite flare up? I have. It’s quite something.

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                    2. Gaia … Elon Musk being a liar and a frontman does not mean everything he talks about or gets involved in or associated with is lies and fiction. To assume otherwise would be a fallacy. In most narratives, truth and falsehood are skillfully interwoven. The spaceflight narrative is a prime example.

                      I agree with that, if I would only use Musk’s con trickery as argument, but it is much more fundamental; physics and chemistry.

                      It is unclear to me what “circumstances” would make it so that space rocks can survive in orbit but satellites cannot. They both can survive in orbit but disintegrate and burn up on entering the atmosphere at velocities of 9 to 40 km per second.

                      the claimed conditions of space:
                      T ~ 3 K (-270 deg C, I don’t do Fahrenheit)
                      P ~ 10^-16 bar (not a perfect vacuum as both mainstream and YTers claim)
                      g =/= 0 (the “zero gravity” narrative was introduced so they could fake it with the vomit comet; the planes making nosedives at -g values, canceling out the gravitational acceleration; that is not 0 g, it is temporary and following the mainstream gravity-based model it doesn’t make sense. Gravity is NEVER zero)

                      then on top of that a theoretical list of other factors
                      cosmic radiation, electromagnetic radiation (especially in the outer Van Allen belts where allegedly the geosynchronous satellites hang around…), ionizing radiation and all kinds of other radiations that all have a negative effect on materials.

                      Any object in space, but especially satellites, suffer from the same problem; one side is lit by the Sun and the other side is in total shade. That makes that the lit side heats up enormously by radiation and the cold side freezes to the lowest T levels possible.

                      There are no materials developed on Earth that can withstand those two extremes at the same time. The hot side would deform ductile and the cold side would crumble as metals do when they reach near zero temperatures.

                      The Starlink “satellites” are claimed to operate at 550 km, so about 140 km above the ISS (right in the thermosphere of which I have seen temps reported up to 1300 deg C!!) and about 1385 have been launched to date (Wikipedia).

                      Ab the Fakeologist just put up a post on the blog about Starlink:

                      https://fakeologist.com/blog/2021/04/29/why-do-spacex-starlink-satellites-only-work-near-the-us-border/

                      I am not contesting your observations, or videos and photos showing that Starlink trail of lights, but I am contesting that they are in space and that is how the Starlink internet works.

                      Cf. the Nuke Hoax; I do not contest the destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the death tolls are probably exaggerated, but the destruction happened. Just not in the way they tell us; by much more horrible firebombs, as Tokyo, instead of instantly vaporizing nukes.

                      Also, some of these satellites are highly reflective and so can appear very bright, which is something that rugged space rocks with poor albedo wouldn’t do.

                      Funny that idea. Because that was how they presented the first “satellites”, in the late 1950s. Von Braun, working with Disney (nothing to see here?), and colleagues explained that satellites were launched like that, as highly reflective and spherical, see the Sputnik example.

                      Then the narrative back in the 50s was that the satellites were not active, yet passive; they reflected signals sent from the Earth’s surface, reflected off the -“satellite”- (ionosphere) and then received back on Earth. See Echo-1.

                      If satellites were spherical and highly reflective, you’d have a point with the albedo. Yet modern satellites are all BUT spherical, with very irregular shapes. It is the irregularity of the shape more than the reflectivity of the material that gives the albedo.

                      and we touch upon another problem which conceptually already should not make sense, and with the calculations based on the materials used even less.

                      Any material has certain properties, like melting points, fracture limits, etc. etc.

                      So any object made from more materials than one has different points at which the material changes (caused by whatever natural effect). The more different materials you use, the more diversity in material properties and the response to the environmental conditions.

                      How do they deal with these physical and chemical challenges? How come the technology inside those “satellites” is not affected by all the conditions of space, while everything we use on Earth needs constant maintenance and reparations in order to work smoothly?

                      Have you ever seen an Iridium satellite flare up? I have. It’s quite something.

                      Unfortunately I haven’t, or at least not that I know of. And I wish I lived in a place where I could stargaze more, but the 10 million lights are too polluting here to see anything beyond the brightest stars and planets. And that is only on the about 50 nights a year the sky is clear.

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                    3. Gaia, I’ll try to answer the points you raised, but I have no expert knowledge in this domain.

                      The vomit plane is not so different from a satellite with regard to gravity. The vomit plane does a parabola, so follows a ballistic trajectory as dictated by gravity, hence is in harmony with what gravity dictates. It sounds technically inaccurate to me to say that inside the plane there is “zero gravity” (as if gravity’s pull had been suspended); it’s better to say that there is weightlessness (Schwerelosigkeit). – A satellite’s stable orbit means that the tangential velocity matches the radial pull exerted by the Earth. – Both the vomit plane and the satellite are in free fall.

                      Heat dissipation. Convection doesn’t work in space, but conduction and radiation do, so radiators can be used to dissipate heat where necessary. In addition, reflective material can be used to minimize heat absorption. This works regardless of whether the body is spherical or blocky. Thus, temperature extremes can be mitigated.

                      Thermosphere up to 1300 or maybe even 1700°C hot. That is very hot, yes, but there is practically no mass in Low Earth Orbit to carry and convery that heat, so there is no ambient heat that objects are exposed to. There is intense radiation and objects have to manage heat absorption and dissipation in order to stay within a safe temperature margin.

                      I disagree with the notion that “everything we use on Earth needs constant maintenance and reparations in order to work smoothly”. Here’s a list of some the things I have at home that don’t need any maintenance at all: microwave oven, electrical circuity and switches, smartphone, computer tablet, telephone, MP3 player, stopwatch, alarm clock, light bulbs, amplifiers, TV, fridge (okay, some cleaning now and then), radio, kitchen mixer – and many more devices. Contrary to my home, space is free of dust. On the other hand, you can’t use lubricants in space because they evaporate, so teflon or similar materials have to be used.

                      Sorry if I forgot some of the issues you raised. By the way, I’m curious: where do you live? I live ~70 km SE of Hamburg in Germany.

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                  2. Gaia, I’ll try to answer the points you raised, but I have no expert knowledge in this domain.
                    The vomit plane is not so different from a satellite with regard to gravity. The vomit plane does a parabola, so follows a ballistic trajectory as dictated by gravity, hence is in harmony with what gravity dictates.

                    Indeed, it works on the basis of canceling g out, so a negative 9.8 m/s2 is needed to do that. But that is a trick, that is not “replicating nature”, as they (and you here below) claim.

                    It sounds technically inaccurate to me to say that inside the plane there is “zero gravity” (as if gravity’s pull had been suspended); it’s better to say that there is weightlessness (Schwerelosigkeit). – A satellite’s stable orbit means that the tangential velocity matches the radial pull exerted by the Earth. – Both the vomit plane and the satellite are in free fall.

                    That is their story indeed.

                    First of all; you cannot “bring something in orbit”. For that to happen we would need to overcome the gigantically impossible to imagine forces of the Universe. Hubris of course, Disney tales.

                    The whole reason orbits exist is because they are the trajectories along which a gravitational equilibrium is reached. That doesn’t make gravity zero. Any object on Earth is in gravitational equilibrium (orbit). But that doesn’t make gravity zero.

                    Orbits are natural phenomenon, not some highway you join just because some Disney engineer has programmed that (before microprocessors were invented allegedly they went into space, you believe that??).

                    Heat dissipation. Convection doesn’t work in space, but conduction and radiation do,

                    So far so good, but then the NASA programming kicks in, but you seem to not give it a second thought.

                    so radiators

                    Really? How does that work? What is powering the radiators or do you imagine some passive radiation like a central heating? And where are the radiatiors on other space thingies than satellites? I have never seen them designed on the things presented to us. Are you inventing an ad hoc argument to cover for those “space” organizations?

                    can be used to dissipate heat

                    What is this magical mumbo jumbo? Dissipate heat? There is no medium around the satellite, rocket or other phantastical space thingy to dissipate heat to. Heat is moving matter, and if there hardly is any matter (P ~ 10^-16 bar), there is hardly anything to move.

                    where necessary.

                    It is necessary ALL the time, there is no escape. You cannot just choose the natural parameters around you and then claim something works. Well you can, as NASA, Musk and all those other clowns claim.

                    One side of anything is lit to temperatures of hundreds of degrees. I used 300 C as a value, but if you start reading more about this, you see they cannot even agree about the temperatures created by the thermosphere, I have seen Ts of 1300 C been reported… Pressure has some effect, but at high temperatures and even low pressures you deform metal.

                    In addition, reflective material can be used to minimize heat absorption. This works regardless of whether the body is spherical or blocky.

                    That cannot be and you know it. If you have a blocky shape, you have areas where even when the surface would reflect the majority of light, many of those reflected lines would reflect back again on the satellite. Only a sphere would minimize heat absorption, but even that is never 100% reflective. So you are accumulating heat on one side. The only place it can go is as you rightly say by conduction.

                    But, and that is another material scientific property, it cannot be conducted to the shadow side, because that side (the Earth phasing one in a satellite) is stone cold and the thermal conductivity of a material depends on its present temperature. At near zero temperatures the conductivity becomes very low too. So no fantastical heat management. One side constantly heating, the other side in constant cold.

                    Thus, temperature extremes can be mitigated.

                    Nope, that is only what the crappy NASA presentations claim.

                    Just like they claimed their astronots on the Moon were comfortable. But if you look up the original specifications of those space suits, they allegedly operate in ranges from +250 C to -250 F (!)

                    Not only is Fahrenheit never used in conjunction with SI units, it is a clear trick, but -250 F is just -160 degrees Celsius, while the claimed temperatures in the shade are those of space, -270 C.

                    At -110 C (the remaining temp diff between suit and surroundings) you agree anyone would freeze, right?

                    Thermosphere up to 1300 or maybe even 1700°C hot. That is very hot, yes, but there is practically no mass in Low Earth Orbit to carry and convery that heat, so there is no ambient heat that objects are exposed to. There is intense radiation and objects have to manage heat absorption and dissipation in order to stay within a safe temperature margin.

                    Indeed and those objects CANNOT manage that, as I tried to outline above.

                    I disagree with the notion that “everything we use on Earth needs constant maintenance and reparations in order to work smoothly”. Here’s a list of some the things I have at home that don’t need any maintenance at all: microwave oven

                    Used 24/7??? I don’t think so.

                    electrical circuity and switches

                    In the timespan the oldest operating satellites are allegedly surviving while functioning, that needs maintenance or fuses replaced, or any human interaction. There is 0 in space.

                    The allegedly still functioning satellites in space:

                     LCS 1, a hollow metal sphere with a precisely defined radar cross-section launched on the 6th of May 1965, is still used (along with LCS 4, 7th Aug 1971) to calibrate ground-based radars.

                    Or

                    GOES 3 is most likely the oldest satellite in operation as of early 2014. Launched in 16 June 1978 as a weather forecasting satellite, it was repurposed (????) as a communications satellite when it became unusable for meteorological studies in 1989.

                    https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/1564/what-is-the-oldest-artificial-satellite-still-in-use

                    smartphone

                    Needs charging, needs cleaning and is at most a decade old, not in operation since 1978/1965 (43 to 56 years without maintenance, cleaning, anything; it functions on magic!)

                    computer tablet

                    Idem

                    telephone

                    Idem

                    MP3 player

                    stopwatch, alarm clock, light bulbs, amplifiers, TV, fridge (okay, some cleaning now and then), radio, kitchen mixer – and many more devices.

                    None of those function 24/7, function under the most extreme of circumstances and if your or my fridge stops working, not suddenly someone’s TV, phone or internet stops working. That would be the case with any malfunction of a satellite.

                    Contrary to my home, space is free of dust.

                    You make it sound like Elon “I think the radiation is not so much of a problem” Musk. In space everything is easier than on Earth. Ehhh, no. And our electronic equipment does not suffer from micrometeorite impact risk, which, calculated using NASA’s own 2009 micrometeorite frequency and risk document on Apollo 17 that I did back in the day, means that every 12 DAYS 32 micrometeorites the size of a syringe would have penetrated the craft, astronots or LM. At 28,000 km/h !

                    Let’s say a satellite has 4x less surface area than those things, so you’d need 48 days to get to those 32 or you get 8 syringe diameter micrometeorites on average in those 12 days. This means in 56 years, the LCS 1 has had 13,626 impacts of syringe diameter micrometeorites !!! And less of larger micrometeorites (the natural inverse square law of frequency vs diameter/magnitude) and more of smaller micrometeorites….

                    On the other hand, you can’t use lubricants in space because they evaporate, so teflon or similar materials have to be used.

                    You still go on the Musk train. This “it is easy, they are doing it since the 1950s” is exactly the problem here. That is what NASA et al. CLAIM, but that is not a holistic look at what the models say, what natural and material scientific laws dictate and thus how impossible space travel is. It is taking their words for it, without looking at the implications of their space fantasies.

                    We haven’t even touched upon the ridiculously impossible 2, at most 3 body problems they present us with. There are no 2/3 body problems in space; there is only the FULL picture; all the parameters have effect, not just 2 or 3 bodies and the rest is ignored out of convenience.

                    Sorry if I forgot some of the issues you raised. By the way, I’m curious: where do you live? I live ~70 km SE of Hamburg in Germany.

                    Nice, close to the Harz mountains. I have been there once.

                    I live on the Bogotá savanna, high up in the Colombian Andes and close to the equator (where the impossibility of Flat Earth gets extra arguments that FErs never address; I saw the Orion problem with my own eyes, that is how I got to it).

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                    1. Hi Gaia, I’m getting back to the orbit of our satellite about satellites.

                      I thought that we agree on the vomit planes and satellites in orbit, but then I read that you wrote that “any object on Earth is in gravitational equilibrium (orbit)”. Do you mean that I’m in orbit because I’m standing on the ground or sitting on a chair? I would disagree with that. We all feel gravity’s pull.

                      An object in orbit is constantly pulled down by gravity, but its tangential momentum cancels g out as you wrote. We agree here, it seems.

                      The vomit plane is different. I called it free fall, but that now seems misleading to me because obviously the plane moves horizontally as well as vertically. The plane’s trajectory and speed must be adapted to gravity’s pull and that is accomplished by accelerating upwards and then describing a parabola. The actors inside the cabin may then float around for a short while (and try not to throw up).

                      So both the vomit plane and the satellite give way to g (even when still gaining altitude), but objects on the ground do not because they cannot fall into the gorund.

                      “Before microprocessors were invented allegedly they went into space, you believe that??” – Yes, I do. The first Sputnik was launched in ’57, and serial production of the Intel 4004 started in ’71.

                      “What is powering the radiators or do you imagine some passive radiation like a central heating?” – Precisely, passive radiators. That is the only heat dissipation mechanism available.

                      “And where are the radiatiors on other space thingies than satellites?” – What other thingies? Take a look at this other comment of mine a couple weeks ago … I only believe in a very limited set of space thingies:

                      https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/04/09/friday-notes/#comment-163866

                      “There is no medium around the satellite, rocket or other phantastical space thingy to dissipate heat to.” – That is right. But conduction and radiation still work, and so heat can and will be conducted and radiated off.

                      “[Heat dissipation] is necessary ALL the time, there is no escape.” – Yes, I agree (except when satellite travel through the Earth’s shadow). But I wrote where necessary, not when necessary: it’s not a temporal question, but a question of spatial constructive design of the object to take into account conduction and radiation elements where necessary.

                      “temperatures created by the thermosphere [various ones given]” – The temperature of the thermosphere probably doesn’t matter so much as there is hardly any mass up there, and where there is no mass there is no temperature, and where there is hardly any the temperature has hardly any effect. What matters is the intensity of solar radiation and the ability of the satellite to deal with it by reflection, conduction and radiation.

                      “Only a sphere would minimize heat absorption” – Depends on orientation towards the Sun. I do not think that spatial configuration of the satellite is as constrained as you make it appear.

                      “cannot be conducted to the shadow side [etc]” – Conduction works in the shade, too. Metal will conduct heat and so will heat up even in the shade.

                      “At near zero temperatures the conductivity becomes very low too.” – Near zero would mean no heat to conduct, so no problem. But the object will never get so cold to start with, even when in the shade.

                      “astronots on the Moon” – Okay, but we know that is a fairy tale.

                      One more device working 24/7: My DSL router. Most other people’s DSL router, too.

                      I do not know anything about micrometeorite. But I do know that I have occasionally had to readjust my satellite dish after a storm to regain access to satellite TV.

                      “There are no 2/3 body problems in space; there is only the FULL picture” – Guess you’re right, but it appears some quantities are negligible and can hence be neglected to arrive at sufficient approxmiations.

                      You are raising good points that make me think but that won’t transport me into a higher orbit of advanced knowledge. So this is as far as I am able to take the discussion for lack of expert experience and physics and engineering skills. I’m just an interested layman, and not even a very well-read one.

                      Bogotá savanna, amazing. Never been to Latin America. Thanks. 🙂

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                1. Sorry, wanted to reply to Gaia with the above answer.

                  With contrails, it’s the same here: Some days, they dissipate very quickly, other days they linger around and seem to get dragged out to bands of haze. Not a pleasant sight.

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              2. Gaia … man-made satellites do exist … take a look at the night sky one of these days.

                man-made satellites in space cannot exist. At least not according to the model they use for all their space fantasy.

                The lights following predictable paths are NEOs; Near Earth Orbiters, or like asteroids in orbit. The Earth gathers new ones and they get passed off as “man-made” satellites, yet they are natural satellites following those predictable paths handily presented to us in a flashy app.

                Thanks for the compliment on the botulin test. I used cruise altitude because the higher it goes the more impossible chemtrails become. Credit to Eye am Eye Radio member Gregory of Nyssa for putting me on this path.

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                1. OregonMatt, I do believe my eyes, but I also believe my nose.

                  Clifford Carnicom writes: “Significant deviations from these results as well as from the USAF statement, as they occur repeatedly in conjunction with the aerosol operations, are tangible evidence of non-water vapor emissions that are involved.”

                  I was told the jet fuel is very light and clean, burning essentially to CO2 and H2O. My nose taught me otherwise, though, when standing on the beach in Palma de Mallorca with landiing airplanes less than 100 m overhead. That smell is not just water vapour and carbon dioxide.

                  There could be some sort of soot, ash, or abrasion from the engines, along with other exhaust gas components.

                  But the people going on about “chemtrails” usually imply that there is an intentional progrram to poison them from the air. And I don’t believe there is one. Because that would be soooo inefficient.

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          2. Stephers, I don’t have any insight into carbon nanotubes, but I have formed a pragmatic opinion based on the titles of the papers you provided, the article on carbon nanotubes in the German Wikipedia, and what I know about the climate change and virus/vaccine scams.

            So it seems that carbon nanotubes looked great and fascinating when they were discovered about 30 years ago – but have so far failed to find any significant practical application. Bayer/Leverkusen started a CNT plant in 2010 and closed it down for some unconvincing reason in 2013.

            Are the papers you quoted attempts to tap into the money streams generated by the CC and VV scams?

            Frankly, when I read about “harvesting carbon from the air” as “diamonds in the sky”, the red flag for PR alert goes up immediately. The process to extract the tiny fraction of carbon from the air is horribly inefficient. It does not make sense. If you need carbon you need to look in the ground or chop trees as mankind has always done. Come to think of it, a tree is a process to fillter carbon from the air, but it takes time.

            Can’t say anything about the aptitude of CNT for so-called vaccines. But given that we’re essentially talking about snake oil, it looks like a match made in heaven for a technology that may have seen three decades of hype but has yet to demonstrate its usefulness.

            I’m also wondering how they measured all these amazing mechanical properties that CNT are reported to have. Could it be these properties are more of a theoretical than practical nature? I do not know, but CNT so far has a lot of “potential” (yeah …) and hardly any application.

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            1. Michael – I hope you are right that the potential of CNTs is over-rated. I really do. I want to be wrong, and yet, somehow I sense (no pun intended) that these CNTs are already (and will increasingly continue) being utilized on a scale and scope we may not be able to imagine: https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=5625. Here is a link to pages and pages and pages of companies involved in carbon nanotube manufacturing/applications https://www.azonano.com/search.aspx?q=carbon+nanotubes&site=all . . .

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                1. Stephers, I only read the abstract of the ScienceDirect article. I interpret it as part of the campaign against combustion engines. Clearly, particulate matter (guess it’s Feinstaub in German) can be bad for your lungs. Could be these nanotubes may form spontaneously in combustion engines, which, however, have become very clean compared to past decades. They were discovered as a side-effect of industrial processes involving light-arcs.

                  I wouldn’t worry too much about it. If you travel to Paris and get up early in the morning, you”ll see the street cleaning vehicles in action, washing all the dust down into the sewers. Also, it does rain in Paris every now and then.

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          3. When I look at the links in the second paragraph (diamonds from the sky), I don’t see the connection to “geo-engineering”, as in the spreading of aerosols. The Forbes article points to harvesting from smokestacks, where the “tons” of carbon are being emitted.

            When looking at the “diamonds in the sky” link, I see what looks like a hopeful, wishful wannabe, as in “please, I wanna be part of the stopping global warming free-for-all, and we’ll do it by harvesting tons of co2 right from, where?, the smokestacks?” They have their gofundme set up, and are proud to be a finalist for the big Carbon Xprize….I’m not implying that carbon nanotubes are not being used by the vaccinators.

            I second your best wishes to Michael Ludwig for his clear German skies, as here near the Oregon coast there has been massive aerosol application regularly for years. Clifford Carnicom suggested in an early paper that it might be for drought inducement, makes me want to revisit that point. This April has been incredibly dry, nothing like it since I first came here from NJ in 2003. Summertime dryness. Preparation for torching more timber and towns?

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            1. OM – Sorry, I did not drop in the main link to “geoengineering” and carbon harvesting/capture. For those of us keen on research involving geoengineering implementation (covert or otherwise), David Keith needs no introduction: https://keith.seas.harvard.edu/direct-air-capture. Keith founded Carbon Engineering (CE), https://carbonengineering.com/our-story/ which is partially funded by Bill Gates https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/04/carbon-emissions-negative-emissions-technologies-capture-storage-bill-gates. The “Direct Air Capture” (DAC) technology purportedly sequesters air directly from the atmosphere, whereas other companies harvest carbon dioxide from smokestacks. Climeworks https://www.climeworks.com is another company (also funded by Bill Gates https://www.climate-kic.org/news/bill-gates-eit-climate-kic-climeworks-2019-breakthrough-technologies/) utilizing this direct-air carbon capture technology. One other startup touting this technology is Global Thermostat, funded by Edgar Bronfman Jr https://globalthermostat.com. The question is why do they really want to hack carbon from the air, and what are the consequences of mass de-carbonization to biological life? I think one of the primary reasons is to produce these carbon nanotubes, which is admitted in some instances.

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              1. “The question is why do they really want to hack carbon from the air, and what are the consequences of mass de-carbonization to biological life?”

                What they are up to is not hacking carbon from the air but hacking money from the tax-payers’ pockets.

                There will be no biological consequences because anthropogenic mass de-carbonization of the air is a technical impossibility.

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    2. Steve – In reference to your second question (if I follow it correctly), this paper (published by the Government of Canada) that I just found may be relevant: https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/health-safety/reports/engineered-nanoparticles.html.

      If you don’t have time to read through the government document, scroll down to the section, “8.0 Summary and future directions.”

      From Section 1.0: “. . . the rate at which nanomaterials are being produced far exceeds the rate at which occupational exposure limits are being developed”; and “The purpose of this guidance document is primarily to help health and safety professionals to evaluate occupational exposures to engineered nanoparticles, including potential health effects, relevant regulations, exposure assessments, and control measures”; and “Given that future production rates are expected to increase, it is important to take a precautionary approach in dealing with engineered nanoparticles.”

      From section 4.0: “Overall, there is a serious lack of regulations specific to engineered nanoparticles worldwide.”

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      1. “Potential health effects”…

        You can’t make this $##& up!!!

        Asking about “potential” health effects of a bio weapon?!?! Really???

        What per se is the “potential”???

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  2. Great article, much information. I’d like to complete the picture by an article:
    https://www.epochtimes.de/meinung/hat-prof-winfried-stoecker-eine-einfache-loesung-des-covid-problems-entdeckt-a3494885.html

    Story:
    The med professor runs a little lab in Germany. He makes a Covid vaccine. It consists of artificial proteins, plus adjuvant.
    It does not has to be cooled as those nano vaccines, and he claims the dangerous mRNA method is not necessary! They just make these proteins themselves, and give them to the patients.
    He faced opposition, but as a med doctor he can give the vaccine to his own patients, regulation does not apply, he does not sell pharma products.
    He speculates about patents and the motive to introduce the technology presented above.
    Comment:
    Yes, this is inside the virus and vaccine frame, it is gene technology, who knows where they get the virus templates,
    but the mRNA technology described here is not necessary ATM.

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  3. I received this pertinent information (from Dr. Robert Young) this morning in my email inbox: https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/why-are-cytotoxic-carbon-nanotubes-or-nanoworms-found-in-mrna-vaccines?utm_campaign=0c308799-94da-40e0-8079-30b2fd4a7176&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&cid=2ddb45cf-2d73-463d-a995-2ac71226d57f. I hope readers will take a look at his important analysis. Dr. Young included nearly 60 references that I reviewed, which seem to support my current (yet continually evolving) position.

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  4. All beyond me, that is, I read voraciously and yet cannot begin to get caught up in your vast set of references. Ergo, I take from this a sense of hopelessness. What they are doing is all by secret handshakes, all meant to control us, no concern at all if they harm us. According to Harvard and JAMA, two mainstream sources, VAERS reports anywhere from .8% to 2% of adverse vaccine events, which places a potential die-off going on as of 4/16/21 of anywhere from 123,500 to 308,750 people, mostly seniors, with a midpoint of 216,125 deaths. More to,follow, long-term effects causing Billy an erection. The monstrosity of this regime is beyond the scope of law and reason, the people behind it exposed as the worst criminals in human history. WHO and CDC are criminally corrupt beyond description, this written here by a man who is aware of the history of the Catholic Church, which looks like an alter boy in comparison.

    Humans are by and large stupid and benign, only engaging in violence in desperate circumstances or when under the influence of alcohol and drugs. The planning and indifference to death and suffering behind the vaccine regime, and the massive planning that went on to introduce it via the virus hoax, speaks of a criminal network so large that it controls every government on the planet. These are evil monsters, and we are looking at a level on misanthrope incomprehensible to ordinary humans graced with feelings and good will towards fellow humans,

    And you want me to … do what? Wring my hands? We have built a good life, my wife and I, living in a somewhat sheltered region. We have paid for our home and have enough saved to get through this life and leave some for our children. These monsters have no scruples, and are, as I see it, coming to take that too. Given our age, they would just as soon murder us.

    Prison planet … where did that phrase originate? Hicks? I cannot comprehend the depth of evil I am seeing here. Just cannot comprehend it. It is written on the faces of Gates and Drosten. It is incomprehensible to me. How do we fight a vast network of utterly corrupt people, especially given the benign and stupid nature of humanity? As far as I can see, we can’t. We relax, understand that life will go on, goodness will prevail in the karmic future. It is beyond us now.

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    1. Nice 🙂

      And do what you can to take in the beauty which has not yet been corrupted. Every act along those lines should bring a little happiness and is your birthright.

      I’m thinking back to my stay in Oklahoma…Scissor Tail flycatchers and Monarch butterflies everywhere.

      I’m driving Big Sur California coastline next week. The nice thing is it is pretty remote, so busybodies should be at a minimum.

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    2. MT – Whatever you are doing, just keep doing it, because you have found a way to remain healthy and vibrant in body, mind, and spirit. No need for you to get inundated with my references. Truly. Leave that for others. You are on the right track, and this world is a much better place because of it. Thank you for the opportunity to express my thoughts and theories here at POM. I can only speak for myself, but I think nearly anyone who arrives at POM as a reader/commenter is enhanced and elevated by the insightful material you offer. I hope I help contribute to that in my own small way. Much gratitude regardless ~ Stephers. 🙂

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    3. Mark, I know this will seem strange at first, but it’s another way of perceiving, and potentially changing, our “karmic future.”

      “Wetiko is an Algonquin word for a cannibalistic spirit that is driven by greed, excess, and selfish consumption (in Ojibwa it is windigo, wintiko in Powhatan). It deludes its host into believing that cannibalizing the life-force of others (others in the broad sense, including animals and other forms of Gaian life) is a logical and morally upright way to live.”

      “Wetiko short-circuits the individual’s ability to see itself as an enmeshed and interdependent part of a balanced environment and raises the self-serving ego to supremacy. It is this false separation of self from nature that makes this cannibalism, rather than simple murder. It allows – indeed commands – the infected entity to consume far more than it needs in a blind, murderous daze of self-aggrandizement.” https://www.kosmosjournal.org/article/seeing-wetiko-on-capitalism-mind-viruses-and-antidotes-for-a-world-in-transition/

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    1. That pleases me! Since you live in Utah, as I take it, our trip should be a piece of cake for you? (There’s a highway leading out of Boulder down to Escalante with multi-thousand foot drop offs on either side, speed limit 25. Have you driven it? I had to focus on the road, so nervous was I, and had I let my wife drive, since I don’t sit well with other people driving, same difference. I need to walk or bike it to appreciate it. But that’s Utah for you, well-known beauty, but so much not well known.

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      1. I absolutely love Escalante! Absolutely georgeous. Ive been up/down 14 many times 🙂 I need a 4×4 as there are hundreds of miles of dirt roads and trails for camping and exploring.

        https://duckduckgo.com/?q=burr+trail+utah&t=h_&ia=web

        I need to buy a Mahindra Roxor…small turbodiesel with 5 speed manual. CJ from India assembled in Michigan.

        Here in Utah you can actually drive off road vehicles on the street, though not freeways. Perfectly legal.

        🙂

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  5. “My presence can be amplified through the RT-PCR process. Because I am SO small, that can often be the best way to find me. Biomarkers indicating my presence can also be assessed via RT-PCR methods.”

    Very interesting, Stephers. Based on your research, do you think it is likely that this is the true purpose of widespread RT-PCR testing? Testing as a method to detect the presence of engineered nanoparticles?
    In this context, a positive RT-PCR test result would indicate that a person is a carrier of ENPs. Additionally, this may explain why some of those who’ve been “vaccinated” and are tested afterwards yield a positive test result.

    If the above is true, then perhaps we are in the middle of a covert “nano war.” Is it nation versus nation? Or is it rather a coordinated, agreed upon agenda set by supranational interests against the majority of the human population – us non “elites?”

    The other day I watched a brief clip supposedly showing a masked Anthony Hopkins receiving a COVID-19 “vaccine” while sitting in the back of a car. Because of the camera position during filming I was unable to see the needle actually enter Hopkins’ arm. Then, after the supposed injection was complete, the nurse withdraws the half-full syringe, holds it in full view, and depresses the plunger, squirting out the remaining fluid. WTF?
    It is clips like this, along with other news stories, that indicate there are two opposing sides to the virus and vaccine narratives – at least for those who are paying attention. There are plenty of stories and videos making the rounds that appear designed to introduce doubt with regard to the “vaccines.” Now, either these are simply part of an effort to stir everyone’s minds or they are indicative of opposing factions higher up the pyramid. If we are in the middle of a covert “nano war” then where do we actually stand on the battlefield? Do we have both allies and enemies battling beyond our awareness?

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    1. There’s no telling what was in the syringe with Hopkins.

      PCR testing is the beating heart of the hoax. It’s looking for things it knows it will find, and with the proper number of amplifications, can “find” as many as needed to keep alive thee impression that there is a virus and that it is either spreading or receding. But it does not just issue false positives, but also false negatives. It just turns out noise, and the public’s faith in the medical sector makes it appear real.

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      1. That’s been our refrain. But Stephers’ work raises the possibility that the hoaxers created deliberate false dichotomies for the PCR–it’s a real test/it’s not a real test; it’s reliable at these amplification cycles, but not at those amplification cycles–when the truth is something completely different: It’s testing for ENPs.

        Don’t know if I buy it–or if, in fact, that’s what Stephers is getting at–but it’s an intriguing possibility. I missed the “JFK was never killed” option until MM pointed it out. That’s what this reminds me of.

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      2. I immediately regretted putting up that comment, in fact, came back to delete it as it is so repetitive. And regarding the vaccine and nanoparticles, I am totally behind the eight ball. But since your comment is there, mine must stay, I’ll just edit the parts I should have left out.

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    2. BOP:

      I’ll start with your first two-pronged question, and then hopefully circle back to your other questions in the next day. Simply put, I am exhausted after hosting company most of today . . .

      “Based on your research, do you think it is likely that this is the true purpose of widespread RT-PCR testing? Testing as a method to detect the presence of engineered nanoparticles?”

      Thank you for posing this question, and one that I took into significant consideration – despite NOT finding much evidence to support my position (but I did find enough confirmation). My short answer is YES. Accordingly, I included one reference in my post that somewhat addressed this: “Application of Reverse Transcription-PCR and Real-Time PCR in Nanotoxicity Research” Methods Mol Biol., 2012 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5087796/. Briefly, from that 2012 paper: “The study of gene expression in a cell or tissue at a particular moment gives an insight into the capacity of the cell for protein synthesis. Gene expression assays, for example, gene profiling, are an important tool and are widely used in nanotoxicity studies. There are several methods available to determine gene expression, such as northern blot analysis, ribonuclease protection assay (RPA), serial analysis of gene expression (SAGE), reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR), quantitative real-time polymerase chain reaction (qRT-PCR), PCR arrays, and microarrays.”

      I found one additional study (again, these experiments are not prevalent in the literature) that further elucidates the application of RT-PCR (and its similar iterations, qRT-PCR and RT-qPCR) to gene expression/profiling as a means to assess engineered nanoparticle exposure (in other words, ENP-induced genetic response): “The presence of residual gold nanoparticles in samples interferes with the RT-qPCR assay used for gene expression profiling” Journal of Nanobiotechnology, October 2017 https://jnanobiotechnology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12951-017-0299-9.

      From the 2017 paper:

      “RT-qPCR is routinely used in expression profiling of toxicity pathway genes. However, genetic and molecular level studies used to determine, understand and clarify potential risks of engineered nanomaterials (ENMs) are still incomplete.”

      “This report describes steps that can be utilised to generate a suitable method for gene expression studies associated with toxicity testing of various ENMs.”

      “Admittedly, ENMs may have different coating and capping agents, in addition to forming a protein corona when incubated in different culture media, which may alter their intracellular uptake and toxicity [34]. It is only those that internalize and are bio-durable that should be considered when assessing their interference upon cell lysis during assay procedures . . . Hence, it is generally understood that surface properties of ENMs will affect intracellular uptake and subsequent gene expression within intact cells.”

      I have attempted to distill this study down with those three excerpts, but it may be beneficial to read it in detail to glean more from it.

      Of course, as with any PCR/RT-PCR procedure, it would be challenging for any lay person like me, or even an accomplished researcher, to lay claim to the legitimacy of this process – even in this instance in which virus/infection is NOT involved. In fact, the researchers attached to this particular study assert that the method “produces false interpretations of toxicity”; and “When ENMs enter cells, the residual amount of intracellular ENM remaining in a sample could alter the PCR assay and, thus, generate false readings for gene expression based exposure-studies.” That said, it does seem that RT-PCR methods are, in fact, applied (even if inaccurate) to determining the presence of ENPs.

      I hope this information was helpful.

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  6. Search Mssrs. Tony Pantalleresco and Brian396, grassroots researchers
    who have run with the Nano ball for > ten years. Mr Pantalleresco
    runs an herb shop in Windsor, Ont and recently posted a sign in the window
    that refuses entry to those who have been IMD’d (Injected with a Medical Device).

    These fellows have developed thick skins through the years warning and explaining;
    When they are featured at all in media, they are immediately dissed and trolled; no
    white coat. Arguably, those who still search for “authorized” authorities very likely
    have disowned their own authority and ability to “know” what’s happening in their
    own life. Recall the social engineering bestseller of the (70’s) “The Rape of the APE”(American Puritan Ethic) where a woman discusses with her doctor an amorous experience she had,
    then asks, “Dr., did I like it?”

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    1. Tony’s “anti-nano bucket”…

      https://blog.iyannis.com/antinano-backet-and-frequency-control-unit-based-on-tony-pantalleresco-antinano-device/

      Borax gets rid of Nano too? And much more…

      1 pinch of Borax in a liter of water (4 cups), 3 times a day + 1/2 tsp baking soda 3 times a day + ACV (ACV & baking soda can go together)

      Teral: “I never use more than 1/4 teaspoon of Borax in my drinking water in any 24-hour period for people 200 pounds and above. The recommended dosage for people around 100 pounds is only 1/8th of a teaspoon per day, so do the research and act accordingly. You only need a minute amount of Borax in your drinking water to begin reaping the benefits.“

      Teral, the man in the video above knows ALL ABOUT NANO, HAARP, chemtrails and how they work synergistically. He was the target to a massive hit operation that killed several family members because of his work with Carnicom Institute and Chemtrail research.

      Gang, please let me know if my offerings are unwelcome. I’m not too proud for some constructive advice.

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      1. I posted the wrong video. You’ll eventually get the info about borax (aka “ Nanofilament Replication Inhibitor”).

        Here’s his own video. He’s a pretty “ out there” guy.!

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      2. Pamela: I appreciate the link to the very important work of Tony and Brian (along with the reference to Clifford Carnicom). I have followed Tony for a number of years, and he seems to be an honorable and generous man. They have provided a link to this post on their blog (not sure if it is operated by Tony or Brian?), so it seems we may be cross-pollinating. I suggest readers review their material with regard to nanoparticle detox, and make informed decisions on their own. While I can not speak to this protocol in particular (I have no first-hand experience/testimony), I know of no harmful effects that can result.

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    1. Thanks Rastus! Earlier today, I actually posted that same video above (see my 5th comment from the top) with an erudite response from Dr. Robert Young. While many think they are observing nano-worms/living organisms in the Pfizer vaccine, it would seem that they are most likely some form of carbon nanotubes (AKA engineered nanoparticles).

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  7. Not sure if this is relevant at all… Just my personal circumstance. I have recently been dealing with a weird digestive issue that’s hard to get a handle on. Talked to a naturopath, and starting to apply her “protocol.” Maybe helping a little, but too early to tell for sure. In any event, my system is all out of whack, compared to previous years when I’ve mostly coasted along with (if anything) just occasional temporary issues. Just find it interesting, that this should arise in the midst of “covid.” Your article naturally plants the disturbing/ intriguing concern – could I have become host to some engineered nanoparticle? By some means? Or is that grasping at straws… Maybe just coincidence, that my personal travails coincide with this year…

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    1. She says it sounds like I have low “digestive fire,” a term she borrows from Chinese medicine IIRC. Possible issues with bile production, and/or peristalsis. So the interventions are designed to boost those things. In her view, the modern diet can lead to this – and while I do avoid some excesses of the Western diet, it’s true I may have been a bit repetitive/ limited in my diet, and deficient in some things. Not sure what would have triggered it though; maybe things just reached a breaking point.

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    2. TimR:

      For the moment, let’s place aside the possibility that ENPs have been released intentionally to cause a “problem” (with a virus being scapegoated) that needs a “solution”; or the compounded possibility that the “solution” (i.e., an injectable medical device) is composed of these ENPs (in a seemingly more biocompatible and bio-durable form) . . .

      Given the increasingly broad application of engineered nanoparticles/nanomaterials (reports indicate this industry is booming and accelerating beyond any regulatory actions), there is a possibility that you have had uptake of ENPs that could be interrupting your digestive system. At the very least, it could have come from ingesting a particular food or beverage – akin to being exposed to a parasite. That said, I would not want to promote tunnel vision and lead you (or anyone) to believe that your issues are definitely due to nanotoxicity. This is only one causal factor to consider, and, as you know, there are a multitude of causal factors that could be at play – even synergistically speaking.

      It seems you are on the right track by consulting with a naturopath. As a holistic health consultant, I am happy to discuss with you (offline, via email, and at no charge) the protocol you are on, and to work together in identifying any potential causes and treatments you may not have considered. I have your email via WordPress. Would you like me to email you? If not, if you are comfortable sharing your current protocol here in a comment, along with a list of your digestive-related symptoms, and a list of current supplements/meds you are taking, then feel free to relay this in a comment.

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      1. Thanks so much Stephers, that’s a very generous offer. If you have the time(!) among all that you do, feel free to email – I would be thrilled to have a second opinion on the protocol I’m beginning and issues I’ve been having. If it gets into a lot of time or gives me some breakthrough insight I could certainly reimburse you for your expertise by PayPal too.

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        1. TimR – I sent you an email yesterday, and then tried again today, but both got bounced back to me. I assume your email address that pops up in WordPress is not current. Can you please email Mark at formsonly at protonmail dot com with your current email address? Thanks! Looking forward to connecting . . .

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    1. Correction: any thoughts or ideas on why ivermectin would be so affective against “engineered nano particles” ?

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    1. Mona Lisa:

      It is my hypothesis that the introduction of ENPs into the biological system – most notably, the existing biofilms (communities within our bodies/cells comprised of bacteria, parasites, fungi, protozoa, and possibly viruses) – is activating/awakening/disturbing the relatively (or formerly) undisturbed biological ecosystem.

      Of course, there are other foreign bodies or toxins, aside from ENPs (like natural nanoparticles, or microbes, or other pathogens), that may operate similarly.

      If, in this instance, we consider ENPs . . . it has been reported that many ENPs are biomimetic, such that their shape and size can match the shape and size of members of these biofilm communities within us (I think I recall it being mentioned in the study I link below). It is possible that not only could the existing microbes (that for all intents and purposes were not necessarily “pathogenic” in an active sense) be disturbed and, therefore, begin to produce reaction oxygen species (ROS) as a response (resulting in illness), but perhaps they could also be woken up because they perceive the presence of ENPs as “self” – meaning a new member that they see as similar/resonant – and welcome it into their biofilm community, which would alter the dynamic (again, possibly resulting in illness in an individual host). I hope this makes sense.

      Either way (whether the ENP is seen as friend or foe), if there are parasites that are responding and being activated, then if an individual takes Ivermectin, it could seemingly kill or neutralize the parasite. Theoretically, that could help to decrease oxidative stress/ROS in the body, thereby decreasing toxic load (in this case, as induced by the ENP infiltration). My point is that the Ivermectin most likely has no direct effect on an ENP, but rather, a direct effect on any existing endogenous parasites that were ignited, so to speak. I hope that makes sense. My goal is for people to begin to substitute the language of virus/contagion/immune system with the language of ENP/nanotoxicity/oxidative stress (and detox).

      I found a study here that may be relevant, although seemingly tangential (note the mention of parasites and malaria near the end):
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7104866/
      “Nano- and microparticles at fluid and biological interfaces” J Phys Consens Matter, September 20, 2017

      “Adhesion may be mediated by van der Waals interaction [152], hydrophobic interaction [152], electrostatic interaction [153], and specific adhesion via receptor-ligand bonds [154–160]. In biological media, nanoparticles can be surrounded with a corona of proteins that effectively changes their surface properties [161–166].”

      From the Conclusions section of the study:

      “Multi-phase fluid systems and cellular biological systems abound with interfaces. Nano- and microparticles naturally collect at such interfaces, because their localization at the interfaces lowers their interaction energy with the environment . . . Particles at both types of interfaces show many common behaviours. The interface attraction depends on particle size, shape, and surface properties. Particles can orient in different ways at interfaces, they deform the interfaces around them, and these interface deformations lead to interface-mediated interactions and collective behaviour.”

      “. . . In many cases, particle sizes at fluid interfaces are in the micrometer range, while particle sizes at lipid bilayer membranes are in the nanometer range. This implies that different experimental techniques are required in both cases, where the nanometer scale makes particles at membranes more difficult to observe and more difficult to manipulate. Therefore, we have a better knowledge about particles at fluid interfaces, and there is an urgent need for systematic and well-controlled experiments for particles at membranes . . . From a biological point of view, nanoparticles are interesting in nanomedicine as biomarke[r]s and drug carriers, but their effect on cells also has to be assessed because of their potential nanotoxicity. In addition, there is a large range of biological particles, such as viruses and parasites, the interaction of which with cells is also highly desirable to be controlled . . . Therefore, we believe that future research should move towards particle-mediated interactions and collective properties for many particles at both fluid and biological interfaces, as well as towards soft particles . . . Finally, dynamical behaviour of particles at fluid and biological interfaces awaits further characterization . . . Furthermore, nanoparticles in combination with superresolution microscopy can be used as probes to study dynamics in biological cells [249–251].”

      “To conclude, particles are already widely used for applications, but a systematic understanding of the interactions of engineered nano- and microparticles with soft and biological matter is often lacking. Furthermore, our understanding of basic biological processes on the cellular scale, such as phagocytosis and blood-stage malaria, will benefit from a detailed understanding of particles at biological interfaces. We expect that in the future more systematic studies for particles at fluid and biological interfaces will allow the engineering of even better tailored nano- and microparticles for applications and to achieve a more thorough understanding of cellular uptake and invasion mechanisms.”

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      1. Chlorella removes things like heavy metals from the body—via the digesive/liver route.
        Lugols Iodine, when used in small dilute amounts, disintegrates metals.
        Disintegrate – – – -Remove.

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        1. Robin – Thank you very much for this comment. As it has been reported that parasites are drawn to heavy metals, I concur that it is most beneficial to address the heavy metals first. By going more directly to the source (heavy metal toxicity), theoretically, the parasites should de-activate/fall away as well, and hopefully, with less “herxing” and detox symptoms. I have experimented with both Chlorella and Lugols Iodine (yes, VERY small diluted amounts). I feel comfortable recommending them. I would add Cilantro tincture to that list as well. Thanks again Robin!

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    2. Mona Lisa: I should qualify my response by asserting that I do NOT recommend the use of ivermectin (for humans, and not even for our pets). I cannot tell people NOT to take it, but as a holistic health coach, I recommend utilizing anthelmintic herbs prior to any pharmaceutical products. Personally, I have had great success with herbal treatments for parasites.

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      1. I do know people have taken Ivermectin successfully getting them out of the the spiraling down respiratory phase. I have followed the FLCCC protocol and I know a lot of people doing this and we have not gotten Covid. I do recall hearing something about HAL ivermectin prevents the a coating from taking place that Allows the Covid particles to spread in the body the above article mentions “a shell can be observed called a “protein corona.” This outer shell production is nearly always inevitable, and can be duplicated in vitro. This can result in a soft corona or a hard corona, which can determine how long I will be able to circulate through the body. “ not sure if this is the same thing.

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  8. Since on the topic of pathogens (nano “engineered” or otherwise), you have to watch this…this will blow your mind…in a good way:

    https://healnavigator.com/treatments/joe-tippens-protocol/

    Yep, I’m experimenting at the moment…I’m currently on day 5 taking one pack of Panacur C. Edmond, BTW, is the professional class suburb of OKC.

    I came across this topic when researching those nano/micro worms people claim they are finding in their masks.

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    1. Nice, slick production, with the usual talking head and feel-good story. One could ignore the meaninglessness of the story as presented (ONE guy claims that one of many variables cured his cancer), and focus a bit on the obvious promotion, created to distract from covid weaponry. Serves to give “hope” in this time of covid devastation, and a reason to smile beneath one’s mask. A big thank you to our media for bringing it to us.

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      1. Could be very well a “feel good” post, I agree. But if so, why was it only shared locally? When a politician sneezes, everyone around the globe hears about it.

        If one eats organic (which I do), there is a high probability one has parasites. I figure a cheap experiment on my part is not going to kill me.

        Doctor Jennifer Daniels has her turpentine protocol.

        If I drop dead, I love you all.

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        1. Hey, I hope you feel some benefit. From a quick look at youtube, this looks like a small part of the “repurposing drugs” agenda. Pharma marketing 101.

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              1. Rastus – Would you believe, I actually recall this study from years ago because our extended family presented it to us as “proof” that the organic produce we were eating was somehow unhealthy for us, and that we were potentially harming our children. These particular family members are “anti-organic.” Apparently, it’s a thing. For the record, I do not think it studied parasites, per se, but rather, bacteria (mainly e.coli, and salmonella). In any case, I do not think the study has been duplicated over the years since, and as it was covered heavily in the mainstream media at the time (around 2008), I had a hunch (and still do now) that it was propaganda used to steer people away from organic produce.

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                1. Rastus – I should add that the lead investigator on that 2008 study of organic produce, Francisco Diez-Gonzalez is currently the Director of the Center for Food Safety at the University of Georgia: https://foodscience.caes.uga.edu/people/faculty/francisco-diez-gonzalez.html. Here is a list of their Industry and Patron Members: https://cfs.caes.uga.edu/about/industry-members.html. So, I think you can see who he works for (you know, the big boys), and what their agenda may be. In fact, one of their Patron Members, The Kroger Co., was in the mainstream news today, as they were being esteemed for offering cash payments/incentives for their employees to get the jab.

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                    1. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. I don’t know how a family member can show care by implying one should eat chemically laced produce. I’ll take my chances with natural “friends” who come along for the ride 🙂 I can always count on you providing input which helps me understand the bigger picture, so thank you.

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          1. Rob,

            The answer is Yes. It’s part of Nature. Food grows in dirt/soil. Organisms live in soil, that is, soil which has not had tons of fertilizer applied.

            One can look to wash their produce with vinegar to kill organisms and/or parasites. But we are human, we overlook that at times and even when applied in practice it is imperfect.

            Choice: Do you wish to eat produce with tons of chemicals on it…or eat natural (with all that implies)?

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            1. Rastus – What if the opposite is closer to the truth? What if less chemicals results in less parasites?

              https://healthwyze.org/reports/100-how-chemical-fertilizers-are-destroying-your-body-the-soil-and-your-food. “Synthetic fertilizers kill a large percentage of a soil’s naturally-occurring microorganisms. These bacteria would normally break down organic matter into plant nutrients, and help convert nitrogen from the air into a plant-usable form. Other useful soil bacteria are “disease organisms” which keep cutworms, chinch bugs, grubs, and other parasites in check. It takes almost six weeks for soil to partially recover biologically from a poisoning by synthetic fertilizer. Considering that many fertilizer producers advise the reapplication of their synthetic fertilizers every three months explains why so many potentially fertile areas of soil are merely wastelands, wherein the essential microorganisms are dead from either fertilizer run-off or direct application. Soil that is deprived of its microorganisms undergoes a rapid decline in soil structure, and it loses its essential ability to retain water, air, and nutrients. Plants grown in such depleted soil are extremely susceptible to damage from diseases, insects, and drought. Healthy soil that is rich in beneficial microorganisms, encourages the natural immune systems of plants, limits the population of plant disease organisms, resists parasitic insects, and creates the ideal conditions for growth.”

              Intuitively, it would seem to me that the healthier the soil is, the less parasites would be present. By leaving natural ecosystems alone (without the intrusion of fertilizers/pesticides/fungicides), it is likely that there would be less parasitic overgrowth, as the microbes keep one another in check. Wouldn’t synthetically altering the soil environment contribute to an imbalance, and thereby, potentially induce proliferation of parasites? In any case, we may want to be cautious about conflating “organic” with “raw.” When eating any raw produce grown in soil (organic or synthetically treated), there can certainly be parasites present. Conversely, when cooking produce (organic or synthetically treated), there will be less parasites, as most parasites are heat intolerant.

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              1. I have an Omega juicer I use…and of course it utilizes raw produce. So yes, thank you for clarifying raw vs organic!

                Read Hulda Clark…my gift to the home team.

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                1. Most important book on health…right up there in top 3!

                  Learn how parasites live and crap and excrete toxins within your body!

                  Learn the usage of her recommended herbs. Read and learn Dr.Jennifer Daniels turpentine protocol.

                  ALL diseases in title includes Cancer.

                  So we’ve come full circle. Maybe Mr Tippins isn’t a shill nor a quack…but a man who was tipped off to the importance of deworming …and maybe it saved his life?

                  Hmmm…maybe.

                  You can read , learn, and make up your own mind. I genuinely hope you do!! 🙂

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                  1. Rastus – It’s one of my top favorite books as well (purchased it in 2014). I am a HUGE fan of both Dr. Jennifer Daniels and Hulda Clark. I have practiced with both of their protocols. I’ve even got my Hulda Clark zappers! I regularly do parasite herbal cleanses, and yes, I juice frequently as well – with my Omega masticating model (although I get complacent – it’s easier to purchase from my local organic juice bar much of the time!). I concur that parasites are most often overlooked, and I am keen on addressing parasites with my health coaching clients (and friends as well). Thanks for dropping the Hulda Clark book in the thread. Hulda Clark offered crucial contributions to the holistic health community.

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    2. Yup I use Ivermectin nd Panacure for my horses wormers!Not sure though how of if I should ever use it on mysel!!

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  9. If I’m out $15, I’m OK with that. BTW, the proper drug is in generic form as well…as it is “off patent”. Like I said, I’m open to new ideas when it comes to health. I have not been to a “doctor” in 15 years and hope to remain out of their offices and hospitals. I do not want “their care”. The last think I dread is ending up in a nursing care facility where they jab crap into the elderly. I can’t think of anything more diabolical. Well, actually I now can…as this “COVID” thing is BEYOND Diabolical. A couple of years ago I could never have dreamed of such a nightmarish scenario.

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  10. Rastus – If I were to put my holistic health coach cap on for the moment . . . My concern is that if we are to experiment with any form of pharmaceutical, or even a natural herb, that we do it from a very informed place, rather than from fear. I caution that we may willingly ingest products to gain their purported benefit, without doing proper due diligence. Just as people have been terrified of COVID, and therefore, will take just about any pharmaceutical/”vaccine” thrown their way; we, too, can fall into a similar trap, such that we may have an overactive fear of engineered nanoparticles, or synthetic biology pathogens (i.e, Morgellons), or run-of-the-mill parasites. I acknowledge it’s tricky, and it’s a fine line to walk. I would say, you do you; and at the same time, I encourage you to at least consider some more natural alternatives if you are truly concerned about parasites, as there are a plethora of safer options – some less expensive and more accessible than others: raw garlic (a wonderful go-to), diatomaceous earth (DE), thyme, clove, wormwood, black walnut, bilberry, haritaki extract, neem, nutmeg (use sparingly), chanterelle mushrooms (be careful where sourced), coconut, pumpkin seeds, carrots, turmeric (ground or preferably juiced), etc.

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    1. I come to POM for all of your input, as I welcome the stimulating dialog.

      I have made it my life’s goal to not live in fear.

      I fear no CV, I fear not the propaganda onslaught, and I am more even keeled today than ever.

      I mentioned Dr. Jennifer Daniels. She has a wealth of information which I’ve been aware of for some time. This latest “detour” if you will only builds upon what I’ve learned from her.

      Check her out if interested, “Dr. Jennifer Daniels turpentine”. Turpentine is nothing more than an essential oil of pine. Look into food grade Diamond G brand.

      If I experiment, its out of an innate curiosity regarding health in general. I promise it originates not in fear.

      Because at the end of the road is the great unknown. We all must come to terms with that. I only wish to remain healthy and to maintain my faculties until such time 🙂

      Since that brand I’m trying (Panacur C) is made from Merk, it is befitting that in the first published Merk manual (circa 1880’s I believe), turpentine came highly recommended within its very pages! That is 100% true.

      Again, check it out, its highly interesting.

      Have a nice afternoon 🙂

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      1. I have successfully treated a variety of maladies in myself with Daniels’ Turpentine regimen, in particular Diamond G. This has included severe arthropathy and facial palsy.

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  11. “If you want to preserve your power indefinitely, you have to get the consent of the ruled. And this they will do, partly by drugs, partly by these new techniques of propaganda. They will do it by passing the sort of rational side of man, and appealing to his subconscious, and his deeper emotions, making him actually love his slavery. I mean I think this is the danger that actually people may be in some ways, happy, under the new regime. But they will be happy in situations where they oughtn’t to be happy.” — Aldous Huxley interview by Mike Wallace, May 18, 1958

    Most of the plans unfolding today are decades in the making. Separating the unconscious and conscious will continue “to work” as long as man sees evil only in “the other,” i.e. “out there.” “We have met the enemy, and he is us.” – Pogo

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  12. I take DE for its silica content…is for hopefully maintaining bone strength. It is my understanding the heavily promoted calcium does no good and in fact does harm.

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  13. I am dropping a video of a very important and timely conversation (recorded on 4/22/21) into this thread, as I feel it is pertinent to the discussion of engineered nanoparticles (ENPs), and also ties in material that I presented in Part 3 (transmissible vaccines, NOT having to do with viral “shedding”) https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/02/08/part-3-paradox-of-contagion-the-internet-of-anti-bodies/, Part 4 (chemosignaling/pheromones) https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/02/21/part-4-the-scent-of-fear-musings-on-fear-and-olfaction/, and Part 6 (nanomedicine/nanorobots) https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/03/20/part-6-rise-of-the-cybernetic-wizard-bio-nanorobots-to-the-rescue/ of my current series here at POM.

    Here is the video link “Is Their ‘Shot’ Putting YOU at Risk?”: https://odysee.com/@DrLawrencePalevsky:f/Critically-Thinking-with-Dr.-T-and-Dr.-P—Episode-44:b (slide to the beginning of the video, as it seems the link may begin at around the timestamp I reference below). For the record, I am on-board with much of what was presented up until the 49-minute timestamp. Immediately after, Dr. Tenpenny recommends the preventive use of Ivermectin and HCQ, which is NOT something I am recommending. As a holistic health coach who avoids allopathic medicinal approaches, I want to qualify (as a disclaimer) that I am not a physician, so I encourage readers/listeners to use their discernment and make their own informed decisions.

    I intend to elaborate on the discussion linked above in upcoming comments, as I have additional thoughts with respect to the potential mode of transmission among those who have been injected and those who have not been injected – if, in fact, some means of transmission is occurring. This is the main question posed by the panel of physicians, and one that I feel needs to be investigated in light of increasing anecdotal reports in this regard.

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  14. This is all assuming such a thing as Covid ?Sars exists in the first place which some are saying does NOT as it has not even been isolated yet norpassed Koches Postulates……….commenta are welcome on this line of thought??????????????

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    1. I will say this regarding animal medicine:

      Joel Wallach is a Veterinarian who took what he learned with animals and used it to help humans.

      It’s not so crazy really.

      https://ygyi.com/team/joel-wallach/

      I’ve written enough so no more posts for me on this thread.

      He is big on key minerals. He has a number of books and has had conflict with the standard of care with humans.

      Read his books, and there are probably videos on his lectures out there.

      Bye for now.

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      1. Rastus – I hope you did not feel offended by any of my comments. We are learning from one another. Please feel free to continue to post as you feel inclined here on this thread. If not, I know we will connect again on another POM post. In the interim, I will refrain from criticizing Dr. Wallach (who you referenced above) and his MLM company, Youngevity. I am familiar with his venture and some of their products (I have purchased one in the past). I would simply caution readers to do their due diligence, including researching the ingredients in each of their products, as well as reviewing the individuals comprising their Board of Directors. I am not in a position to recommend their products. As a small gift of appreciation to you, Rastus, and your contribution to this thread involving Hulda Clark, here is a brief video of her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=016sHNjjR_U. In my opinion, Hulda Clark was a brilliant and compassionate being with much to offer to the natural healing community. I can only imagine that she would encourage you to follow her parasite cleanse protocols (mainly clove, wormwood, and black walnut), rather than resorting to any chemical-laden pharmaceuticals. Your body deserves the best nature has to offer. 🙂 Be well, my POM friend . . .

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        1. Any MLM discussion ultimately brings up the topic of shister-ism, I understand.

          I’m not sensitive to criticism…quite the opposite 🙂

          I simply promised Mark I would not “over do” it. Is probably why I was initially being moderated.

          That and early on I was very sarcastic I believe.

          Like one said, we are here to learn and share. That’s it? Yep, that’s it.

          If one finds an ounce of truth in something otherwise questionable, then great. If not, move on.

          If one sees a shill where others may not, that’s fine too.

          Some called Kaufmann a shill, we all read that. I listen to him at times. But am no devotee.

          In short, we all have our own path to pursue. If detoxing of parasites is not for you, I’m in no position to counter that viewpoint. If one brings up various notions to share, its certainly not meant to mislead.

          Seek what you will and draw your own conclusions. Mark said as much recently and I concur 🙂

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          1. Rastus – I appreciate you honoring Mark’s request. In reference to “If detoxing of parasites is not for you, I’m in no position to counter that viewpoint.” . . . To clarify, I am a strong proponent of parasite detox via natural means (choosing from a plethora of options that I noted in a previous comment above) – sans chemical dewormers.

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    2. Horseman, I’ve just read a book called Virus Mania, co authored by three doctors and an investigative journalist. It provides details of who was involved in the so called isolation of Covid 19 and references all relevant papers. It would appear that fragments of unidentified DNA from a sample containing billions of similar sized particles that could not be separated were then computer modelled into an entire genome. Maybe that’s how they get all the new variants, just modelling new sequences from similar looking but slightly different DNA fragments.

      The book also has chapters on other viruses like AIDS, Bird Flu, Polio etc.
      There’s an oddly contradictory contribution from Robert F Kennedy Jr but it’s quite a good read.

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      1. Rob – Very important book. Thank you for referencing.

        From the first edition of Virus Mania (2007): “We are not witnessing viral epidemics; we are witnessing epidemics of fear . . . Research hypotheses covering these areas of virus research are practically never scientifically verified with appropriate controls. Instead, they are established by ‘consensus.’ This is then rapidly reshaped into a dogma, efficiently perpetuated in a quasi-religious manner by the media, including ensuring that research funding is restricted to projects supporting the dogma, excluding research into alternative hypotheses” (p. 11-12).

        An outstanding and relevant excerpt from the same book (2007 edition): “In terms of genetics, these short pieces that are found using the PCR are not complete and do not even satisfy the definition of a gene . . . In spite of this, it is suggested that ‘pasted together’ they would depict the whole genetic material of a given virus. But nobody has presented a paper that shows an electron micrograph of this so-called reproduced virus.” The authors continued, “Even if scientists assume that the particles discovered in the laboratory (antigens and gene snippets) are the viruses mentioned, this is a long way from proving that the viruses are the causes of the diseases in question, particularly when the patients or animals who have been tested are not even sick, which, often enough is the case. Another important question must be raised: even when a supposed virus does kill cells in the test-tube (in vitro) . . . can we safely conclude that these findings can be carried over to a living organism (in vivo)? Many issues contradict this theory, such as that the particles termed viruses stem from cell cultures (in vitro) whose particles could be genetically degenerate because they have been bombarded with chemical additives like growth factors or strongly oxidizing substances (p. 44).” The book noted a phrase expressed by Andreas Meyerhans (from the Institut Pasteur in Paris): “To culture is to disturb” which “means that the results obtained in vitro only confuse (p. 45).

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        1. The new edition ,just out, has a big chapter on the current situation. It shows that not only has the virus never been proven to exist, just computer modelled from unidentified fragments of DNA found with a PCR test, but there’s been no overall excess mortality the world over. Some countries have had spikes of excess mortality that coincide with when they’ve used high doses of drugs like hydroxychloroquine and various toxic antivirals experimentally.

          The contribution from Robert F Kennedy Jr seems a bit out of place and I don’t understand why it’s included. He seems to assert that vaccines do work in preventing the diseases they’re intended for but cause problems like autism because of the toxic adjuvants they contain.

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  15. Stay healthy everyone, because they are LITERALLY hitting you on all fronts.

    God Bless you all. One only look to San Diego and LA for the devastation….tent cities everywhere.

    Imagine being 50+ years living in a tent and crapping in a bucket.

    😦 😦 😦

    https://www.ksl.com/article/50155401/report-utah-senior-citizens-at-risk-of-losing-affordable-housing

    They are destroying your health and destroying your economic vitality. And of course, they wish to “save” you with the “vaccine”.

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  16. Stephers, this is spine-tingling at its best. I recall the nano-skin cleansers that became the rage a few years back. I could visualize an endless stream of them joining the run-off from the fields and streets, doing their nano thing. I guess our drinking them is a form of recycling?

    This jibes well with a video posted by Ab by Zac Bush, “Chemical farming and the loss of human health” talking about how glyphosate is breaking our protein chains by eliminating amino acids, busting our guts in the process. The Hippocratic “let food be thy medicine” got inverted. I recall one of the justifications was to “feed the world” or somesuch (not) Green revolution line of lies. I recall my shock when I heard a few years back about how 1 in 3 Americans has some sort of chronic disease, likely up to 1 in 2 by now. There are graphs in the vid that show how many maladies shot up just after this potion was slathered en masse on corn and soy. Considering what appalling things most people eat, and what little positive thought or energy many expend, it seems many have become human husks.

    This ties in with Steve’s apt link on wetiko. I heard about it a few years back, and believe this is what is happening, and is allowing it to happen with virtually no real resistance from the rest. (pro tip: a bumper sticker affiliated with the duopoly does not equal resistance) A real spiritual illness reigns, with most unable or unwilling to see it, and with many going along, “because that’s human nature”, “greed is good”, etc.

    It reminds me of first seeing a Devo clip; it was quirky, it was different, but the joke was on those who mocked. De-evolution is real, and it’s all around us. We must fight the darkness, using our unique tools. Thanks to you (and all) for the nutrition tips and positive vibes too!

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  17. I LOVE this post and it’s responses. Such a fertile crowdsourcing environment we have here.

    I have a link to expound a bit on the whole vaccine “shedding/transmitting” issue that seems to be cropping up. It may be a bit too woo woo for some but it’s just another point of view…..I’d love to know what folks think relative to what Stephers wrote in Confessions of a Nanoparticle. 5G rollout plays large.

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    1. Pamela:

      Thank you so much for offering this report in the thread. I included this very report in an installment I wrote in February 2021 that covered self-spreading/transmissible vaccines: https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/02/08/part-3-paradox-of-contagion-the-internet-of-anti-bodies/. If you feel inclined to read it, I appreciate any feedback you have. As you may be able to gather from the comments attached to that piece, my position at the time did not get a lot of love, if you know what I mean. I acknowledge I could have improved on my delivery, but I do find it interesting that my hypothesis may have come close to being on-point, given the current anecdotal reports (increasing by the day) and relevant discussion (by renowned physicians such as Dr. Tenpenny, Dr. Northrup, and Dr. Palevsky) surrounding the potential for jabbed individuals to transmit an undeterminable signal to unjabbed individuals, possibly resulting in illness and/or reproductive/menstrual/bleeding irregularities.

      Since writing that post in February, and doing more research on engineered nanoparticles (ENPs) – namely, carbon nanotubes – I may be inching closer to a potential explanation for the mechanism of transmission in this regard. There are studies involving carbon nanotubes (CNTs) being bonded to glycoproteins (i.e., spike protein) as bio-nano conjugates that can be manipulated and monitored in vitro and in vivo. Studies also reveal that CNTs operate simultaneously as both sensors and semiconductors (as in a transistor/transmitter device). That said, I have more questions than answers.

      I want to emphasize – and go on record asserting – that, at this time, I do not want to promote the separation/division of jabbed people from unjabbed people. (I prefer to avoid the terminology of “vaxxed” and “unvaxxed”, as I do not perceive this injection as a vaccine.) I am very concerned that unjabbed people may now, in an inverted manner, perceive and treat jabbed people as the “leppers”, just as we (the unmasked and unjabbed) have been treated throughout this heinous psychological operation. That seems to be a fear-based notion that the controllers want to propagate. So, even though we are still collecting anecdotal reports and data (I am doing this myself within my own circles of family/friends, and we think we already have our own first-hand evidence), I am not recommending complete avoidance from jabbed family/friends. However, I am encouraging those of us who wish to remain unjabbed to seek out others (even make new friends) who are also aligned in this way, because I do think we need this companionship at this pivotal time. I have been making efforts to do this, and it feels supportive and reassuring.

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      1. Thank you so much for reminding me of the “divide and conquer “ theme that seems to rule the day.

        Because of this bilateral “leper” narrative that seems to be seeping into the collective, (intentionally or not), I have made two poignant life decisions of late that I’ll share with you.

        I was invited to an all-expenses paid trip to Mexico and declined due to my dear friend having gotten the jab. We would have been in extremely close contact.

        Just yesterday another mostly Red-Pilled friend who I was going to go to FL with on a jaunt, allowed as how she caved to « jab bullying » and got her second yesterday.

        The group of our mutual beloved friends who have been together for YEARS have polarized to jab v un-jabbed. They insist that you have to have the jab to socialize anymore.

        Reeling from the whole year of traumatization, my battered emotional body is like a deer in the headlights.

        Thoughts? Suggestions?

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        1. I’m not proud of my decisions.

          A spiritual warrior would see this whole dark charade as merely an opportunity to « hone the spiritual blade » while in this 3D walk.

          Since lower-vibrational f-wittery can only take root in a low vibrational body terrain/millieu, it seems that’s keeping one’s vibration high is paramount.

          Love of one’s friends and family and fellow Sapiens will win the day.

          Upon considération, I reckon I’ll hug my dear friends after all, jab or no.

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        2. Pamela:

          I understand and empathize with your pain and loss. This has been traumatizing for all of us, and that is an understatement. I do not have any great words of advice. I am trying to navigate this myself. I am gathering on-the-ground data as we go, and attempting to make informed decisions based on that.

          Personally speaking, I feel that I have experienced some odd symptoms when being out and about in indoor public spaces recently. It could be my imagination, or it could be a physical reaction to being around jabbed people, who I do consider may be walking field-effect transistors – transmitting dangerous signals to others. I know wearing a mask would never help protect me.

          As one who is trained/certified in energy psychology and energy medicine modalities, much of this seems to fall into the realm of electrical signaling and frequencies. Accordingly, I do sense we can not only protect ourselves in certain ways, but maybe help to heal those who have been subjected to the brainwashing, including getting the toxic prick. I refuse to give up on them entirely. You seem sensitive and keen to energy and frequencies, so I imagine you know what I am attempting to convey. Admittedly, I am falling short.

          I don’t have profound, definitive answers at this time. I can only say to follow your intuition. If you are a woman of childbearing age, I would recommend that you take precautions that I would not necessarily recommend to someone like me, who is older and not concerned with fertility/menstruation. As of now, that does seem to be a primary concern.

          We have all been beaten down on some level by this. But one thing I do know is that as humans, we tend to thrive more around others, rather than in isolation. So, I hope you can find others who have not been jabbed, and if not, that you find a way that feels comfortable for you to be with those who have been jabbed.

          I am beginning to fill my life with new people who are like-minded and that feels right for me. Nearly every day this week I have gotten together with people in-person who I met online because we share the same views on “vaxxing.” It’s been fulfilling to hug new friends. I feel this is the time to grow new social networks to carry us through – especially if we have to let go of the old ones.

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      2. I want to emphasize – and go on record asserting – that, at this time, I do not want to promote the separation/division of jabbed people from unjabbed people. (I prefer to avoid the terminology of “vaxxed” and “unvaxxed”, as I do not perceive this injection as a vaccine.) I am very concerned that unjabbed people may now, in an inverted manner, perceive and treat jabbed people as the “leppers”, just as we (the unmasked and unjabbed) have been treated throughout this heinous psychological operation.

        Really? No, but seriously? With all the beautiful pieces of prose you have shared here, about transhumanism and especially transmutations, you STILL see the willful mutants as equals?

        We are at War.

        This is survival of the misfits.

        Feck the ones who seem unable to use their Gaia given brains and rape themselves or their offspring with toxins. Those mutants should be made NPCs in our lives.
        Such that WE, the only remaining Homo sapiens align.

        This is a black and white question; do you stay human, or do you become mutant.

        I have no compassion with the Covidiots who give up their lives.

        In the words of the Great Carlin: “let them go gracefully…”

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        1. Gaia – Sorry, I am not at war with my friends and family, most of whom have unknowingly been duped into being penetrated by this dangerous jab. They do not know better. They are not all NPCs. They have hearts and souls, and they still have the capability to love and share joy with me and my immediate family. They have been manipulated by psychopathic controllers with agendas to divide us (among their plethora of ongoing goals amidst this grand experiment). I will not become a “mutant” by being in contact with my loved ones who did not know better. Yes, I have conveyed to some of them that they may be putting me and my family at some risk. And yes, they look at me like I have two heads. They simply cannot grasp that their un-informed choice to be penetrated (and possibly mutated/altered) could actually cause harm to others, rather than the inverse that they were brainwashed to believe, that they are keeping themselves and others safe from a deadly “virus.” I wax and wane, Gaia. Most days I have compassion for all of these people, and yet, some days I am angry with them and disappointed in them. Other days, I pity them. But, NO, I will not reject, or go to “war” with those I love, and I certainly will not believe or convey (intentionally, at least) that I am somehow better or more holy than them.

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          1. Gaia – Sorry, I am not at war with my friends and family,

            I didn’t say we are at war with them. We are at war with psychopaths who want to extinguish the human species. Our friends and family are just like us players, actors, in this war. So make sure the choice is the right one.

            most of whom have unknowingly been duped into being penetrated by this dangerous jab. They do not know better.

            This cannot be.

            Either they know better, or you have a split personality. You write the longest and best-worded essays here at POM, you display to have a highly advanced knowledge of the subject, the jargon, the white coats on our side, everything.

            Do you not talk with your friends and family? Like you do here with us? I hope you do and you don’t play Jekyll and Hyde. Then you cannot say “they don’t know better”. They do, because you inform them of what’s going on.

            Outside of you are there literally hundreds of ways to get information on even the toxicity of “normal” vaccines, let alone this Covid Cocktail they get internally tattooed with.

            They are not all NPCs.

            The ones who decided to become mutants should become NPCs. Their decision, not yours. You seem to bear guilt, excuse or something for an adult who has personal responsibility? Why? Since when do people lose their personal responsibilities, just because some idiot circus on TV is going on?

            They have hearts and souls, and they still have the capability to love and share joy with me and my immediate family. They have been manipulated by psychopathic controllers with agendas to divide us (among their plethora of ongoing goals amidst this grand experiment). I will not become a “mutant” by being in contact with my loved ones who did not know better.

            I never said you did.

            I don’t know what your ideas of the future are, other than what you write here, but this Corona”virus” is just the first (since the other fake scampanics) in a long line of more.

            (((they))) have an eternal supply of invisible imaginary monsters

            Everytime someone takes one of those shots, whatever it does, it modifies people. Which exact chemical reacts with which and how much of which mental or physical ailment is coming from this, in the end it is all irrelevant. It changes us, actively.

            The first shots may be relatively “harmless”, that is how the Kool-Aids is laced, but this is the future; everytime more mutations away from how we were born, as humans.

            Yes, I have conveyed to some of them that they may be putting me and my family at some risk. And yes, they look at me like I have two heads.

            Huh? In what way are they putting you at risk? And I wouldn’t have that as the angle, because you make it about you. It is about them, their own bodies (what happened with My Body My Choice) and their own goddamn responsibility to care for the human life given to them by Gaia.

            They simply cannot grasp that their un-informed choice to be penetrated (and possibly mutated/altered) could actually cause harm to others, rather than the inverse that they were brainwashed to believe, that they are keeping themselves and others safe from a deadly “virus.”

            How are they harming others? Do they cough up black goo, or what is going on in your environment? They harm others by depriving them from human friends, yes, but I don’t think you mean that and I wouldn’t approach your friendships that way either.

            I wax and wane, Gaia. Most days I have compassion for all of these people, and yet, some days I am angry with them and disappointed in them. Other days, I pity them. But, NO, I will not reject, or go to “war” with those I love, and I certainly will not believe or convey (intentionally, at least) that I am somehow better or more holy than them.

            I never said go to war with your family. But I cannot grasp that you are so extremely well worded online, but in real life you seem to not care about transhumanism, or what it means to defend that what is human.

            If we don’t stand up for humans against the mutants, your human nature is worth nothing.

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            1. Gaia:

              Before I respond with a reply, I have questions for you: In your personal life (off-line, non-virtual), have you been able to formidably change the minds of friends and family when it comes to this entire scam? Have you shared information with them that prevented them from getting pricked with this exotic, toxic, and experimental technology? Have you been able to persuade friends and family to not wear suffocation devices on their beautiful faces? Have you engaged with them in a way that actually convinced them that there is no virus causing any disease, and that there may have never been any virus ever causing any disease? I am curious how far you have gone with them, and how you changed their minds. If you were able to say just the right things to switch something on in them that helped them grasp this entire psychological operation, and “un-brainwash” them, I really want and need to know what that formula is – because I have not found it. Please share your magic wisdom here, as I have continually contemplated on best practices in this regard.

              While I am a work-in-progress when it comes to blogging, I feel that my writing is improving – give or take a few posts! I am diligently working on my delivery, because I am not there yet. It’s only been a year that I have been practicing at this. I have been practicing the same with my ability to articulate in-person with real-life, non-virtual people. My ability to speak in conversation – on these very topics – lags behind my evolving capability to write about them.

              All that said, perhaps you can empathize with me in my frustration when I do present and expose people to the concepts I write about (including the notion and dangers of transhumanism) – in hopes they will not harm themselves with useless and harmful “mitigation” strategies that you and I know are dangerous and toxic to them – and still, their behavior does not change. Most of these people in my life have more advanced academic degrees than I do, and plenty more financial assets to gain access to resources, and yet their minds seem incapable of comprehending what I explain to them. Yes – some of these individuals read this blog, as I have regularly shared my posts with them. Conversely, I have some dear friends for many years with whom I share my POM posts, and I am eternally grateful for them (you know who you are, as you may be reading this), as they have expressed to me their gratitude to me for helping to inform them. Off-line, they ask me more questions, and they attempt to go back to their family and other circles of friends to help inform them. They experience the same frustration as I do. It seems the “bifurcation” (literal and/or metaphorical) of the human race took hold at the very beginning of this global operation, and changing minds since, has been nearly impossible. Again, if you are experiencing otherwise, then please share your magic formula.

              I hesitate to respond to a few of your comments that I feel are out-of-touch with my true nature. If you have not gotten a sense of who I am from my year of writing – on a heart-based level – then I doubt any response I offer is going to register or resonate. To imply that I do not care about transhumanism is so far off-the-mark. I have been sounding alarms to others in my personal life long before this event even occurred, and long before I ever wrote about it. Have you heard about the Lifeboat Foundation? No one in the alt media addresses it. I have been keeping my eye on this organization for quite a long time. I may write about it in my final installment in my series on digitized humans. This final installment is taking a long time to pull together, as I am reading through an 863-page book written by and for transhumanists. I had already tentatively titled the piece, “Transhumanist Baptism by Injection.” Does that resonate with you? You and I may be much closer in thought than you think. So, if you truly feel, in your heart, that I am not standing up for humanity and nature, then I hope you will dig a bit deeper into your heart space, where I sense you can feel it.

              I hope in future comments, Gaia, you can imbue kind and loving wisdom that I know you are blessed with. I know you care about humanity, or you would not get so angry at the situation. It just seems you may be projecting that anger on to me, when I am only one voice in this crazy wilderness attempting to educate and inform, as I continue to learn each day.

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              1. Note to readers: I will not be responding to any other comments today, as we have some VERY dangerous weather conditions coming our way – even as I write. I have outdoor animal companions that I need to protect and attend to. Please know that I will try to catch up tomorrow if I have online access. Thank you for understanding.

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                1. Please stay safe. I was out in OKC working when a monstrous tornado came through at 3am. The blaring city alarms going off all over, sound asleep in the pitch dark (power went out)…absolutely insane.

                  Next morning learned a large portion of city 20 miles west was literally destroyed.

                  And it’s very common out there to see cars dented like golf balls due to the massive hail storms which come through.

                  I don’t know what kind of severe weather you get in the NE, but stay safe.

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              2. Before I respond with a reply, I have questions for you: In your personal life (off-line, non-virtual), have you been able to formidably change the minds of friends and family when it comes to this entire scam? Have you shared information with them that prevented them from getting pricked with this exotic, toxic, and experimental technology? Have you been able to persuade friends and family to not wear suffocation devices on their beautiful faces? Have you engaged with them in a way that actually convinced them that there is no virus causing any disease, and that there may have never been any virus ever causing any disease? I am curious how far you have gone with them, and how you changed their minds. If you were able to say just the right things to switch something on in them that helped them grasp this entire psychological operation, and “un-brainwash” them, I really want and need to know what that formula is – because I have not found it. Please share your magic wisdom here, as I have continually contemplated on best practices in this regard.

                Of course there is no “magical formula” to let people see things for themselves. They need to see it for themselves. That said, I have several good results where people caught on to the problems with certain narratives. I have shared some in the past, another one here below.

                My method of treating this is why I reacted to you the way I did. I try to understand someone and their issues and reason based on their character, not mine. I try to be as objectivist as possible (thank you Ayn!). One of the main benefits of that approach is that it doesn’t depend on me, Gaia, to see something, it is not my opinion (“I like strawberries is an opinion”), but observation.

                So in your case I looked at what you write (about) and thus your passions. And then reason from that. That is why I am so confused by your excuses about your friends “they don’t know any better”. They are not Down syndrome levels of intelligence, so they should know better.

                An example happening to me about 2 months ago. I was out with Molly in the park with my 2 dog walking friends there too. They were talking, I was listening. At one moment they said “the milk of today is not the same anymore because of the vaccinations in the cows”. That was the moment for me to step in and say “so now you understand why I don’t want the Covid vaccine”. I looked at their faces and both of them were silent, clearly thinking.

                Did I wake them up to not take the jab? I doubt it. Did I succeed against the overwhelming power of Main Stream Media and Main Stream Medics? I don’t think so.

                But at least I got a spark of reflection in there with them. Based on their own doubts and issues.

                I have had a couple of other moments with the masks too. I am the only one going unmasked on the streets, literally the only one. The ones looking at me and frowning (hard to see when their what is it 55 face muscles are hidden) I make NPCs. They don’t exist for me, I have no desire to have those people in my life. The other normal people I interact with ALL accept me unmasked.

                It is a matter of showing your stance, sticking to it and being proud. And a set of reasons helps, even though it is not a rational thing.

                While I am a work-in-progress when it comes to blogging, I feel that my writing is improving – give or take a few posts! I am diligently working on my delivery, because I am not there yet. It’s only been a year that I have been practicing at this. I have been practicing the same with my ability to articulate in-person with real-life, non-virtual people. My ability to speak in conversation – on these very topics – lags behind my evolving capability to write about them.

                A year is long enough I’d say and seeing the quality of your writing, content and reasoning, you are humiliating yourself far too much. I seriously have to think hard to have seen some better writer than you and I have read a lot of different writers.

                You said that before, that you are not as eloquent or at ease to speak vs writing. I offered to train just that at Eye am Eye Radio where many more truth seekers are active to interact with and learn from (and they from you). Yet you refused, stating “you’re still too uncomfortable” (along those lines at least). Of course, if you don’t practice, you won’t get any better. Practising voicing your points and arguments is very important if you want to be comfortable with your loved ones.

                All that said, perhaps you can empathize with me in my frustration when I do present and expose people to the concepts I write about (including the notion and dangers of transhumanism) – in hopes they will not harm themselves with useless and harmful “mitigation” strategies that you and I know are dangerous and toxic to them – and still, their behavior does not change. Most of these people in my life have more advanced academic degrees than I do, and plenty more financial assets to gain access to resources, and yet their minds seem incapable of comprehending what I explain to them.

                This sounds maybe contradictory but in my experience it is the norm. The more (academic) schooling and the more financial resources people have, the less they would be inclined to question the status quo. Psychologically, as my totally amateur brain sees that, they identify with the System because in their mind they think they got where they got because of the benefits of that System.

                I gave up my former career years ago, mostly because I got bored of the environment and had different challenges for myself than the working ones. That made me lose contact with older friends, but that is fine, you make new ones. I am a very extravert and sociable person also in real life, so that facilitates it, but you don’t need to be like that at all.

                Yes – some of these individuals read this blog, as I have regularly shared my posts with them. Conversely, I have some dear friends for many years with whom I share my POM posts, and I am eternally grateful for them (you know who you are, as you may be reading this), as they have expressed to me their gratitude to me for helping to inform them. Off-line, they ask me more questions, and they attempt to go back to their family and other circles of friends to help inform them.

                Awesome! This is what I mean. Embrace these friends, cherish the friendships with those who are able to see what we see. Those are the ones that count and will support you when you are in trouble.

                They experience the same frustration as I do. It seems the “bifurcation” (literal and/or metaphorical) of the human race took hold at the very beginning of this global operation, and changing minds since, has been nearly impossible. Again, if you are experiencing otherwise, then please share your magic formula.

                The more this drags on, the more people wake up. The irrationality of the lockdowns, laws, whole “test” joke, the sex-based curfew we pioneered in a year ago, everything, everyday people wake up. That is an opportunity for us. It doesn’t mean they suddenly will become terrain theorists from one day to the other, but they see other parts of the bigger picture and I would capitalize on those if you find them.

                For example my good German friend believes in space travel (still, after many hours of my passionate reasoning against it) and in pathological viruses. But, and that is much more important and the part to focus on, he recognizes the evilness of the System, the banksters, the geopolitics, the money system, etc. And so he LOVED aSHIFT. which was not only a great surprise to me, it forms the basis to build on to.

                I hesitate to respond to a few of your comments that I feel are out-of-touch with my true nature. If you have not gotten a sense of who I am from my year of writing – on a heart-based level – then I doubt any response I offer is going to register or resonate. To imply that I do not care about transhumanism is so far off-the-mark. I have been sounding alarms to others in my personal life long before this event even occurred, and long before I ever wrote about it. Have you heard about the Lifeboat Foundation? No one in the alt media addresses it. I have been keeping my eye on this organization for quite a long time. I may write about it in my final installment in my series on digitized humans. This final installment is taking a long time to pull together, as I am reading through an 863-page book written by and for transhumanists. I had already tentatively titled the piece, “Transhumanist Baptism by Injection.” Does that resonate with you? You and I may be much closer in thought than you think. So, if you truly feel, in your heart, that I am not standing up for humanity and nature, then I hope you will dig a bit deeper into your heart space, where I sense you can feel it.
                I hope in future comments, Gaia, you can imbue kind and loving wisdom that I know you are blessed with. I know you care about humanity, or you would not get so angry at the situation. It just seems you may be projecting that anger on to me, when I am only one voice in this crazy wilderness attempting to educate and inform, as I continue to learn each day.

                I know we are much more aligned than opposed in our thinking. I have never heard of the Lifeboat Foundation, no.

                The reason why I reacted is that I cannot grasp that you don’t make distinctions between people while online you so well, detailed and informed (! you know the jargon, the psience of germ and the science of terrain theory SO much better than me, whom YOU set on the right path, so I am very grateful for that) outline the dangers of transhumanism and mutations.

                If people don’t want to be called mutants, they better make sure they don’t mutate (take the jab). Why is there upheaval about that?

                All this policor Newspeak has infested even these truth communities. Luckily as a Dutchie we shat on those ridiculous restraints ages ago and even on mainstream TV the word “kut” (meaning cunt, pussy) is widely used.

                To understand me or my culture I recommend watching some of Hans Teeuwen, a great inspiring comedian for me, and Max Verstappen and his blunt remarks. Not every Dutch person is as outspoken as me or them, but it is a very Dutch cultural thing to just say the things how they are.

                And let’s practice!

                Email me at agenda2020 [at] protonmail [dot] com if you like and we make things happen!

                All the best with Gaia’s disasters to deal with.

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          2. Well put, Stephers. I so appreciate your research and writing, and wish I had time to look at everything you link to. However, what I have read and watched has been very informative. When I think how much effort (and necessarily, available time) it has taken for me to see things differently, it becomes very difficult to judge those who I would view as still brainwashed (or maybe just more brainwashed at the moment?). The world seems full of surprises, and who knows what new perspective we will have a few years down the line.

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        2. Gaia:

          Following is an excerpt from the Afterword in Tom Cowan’s Human Heart, Cosmic Heart (2016): “Try to restore to health as many living beings as you can. This can include plants, animals, mountains, fields, rivers, lakes, relationships, and other people. Everything around us is alive. Find the living beings you care about, nurture them, be the one responsible for ensuring their well-being. Love them, protect them, fight for them, care for them.” Tom concluded his Afterword: “Finally, maybe most importantly, shed as many of your beliefs as possible, including those so-called cherished ones. Be wary of believing in any institutions or abstractions (i.e., nations, patriotism, capitalism). Ask yourself what you know to be true in your heart versus what you’ve been told. Only knowing comes from your heart. When you have done enough of this shedding that it has become a habit, turn around in line every once in a while and see who and what is there. If who or what is there moves your heart (you’ll know), stop at nothing to make that who or what a part of your life.”

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        3. Ugh, this NPC meme rankles me every time it pops up.

          To call the vast majority of the population (i.e., those duped by corona hoax) NPCs is to declare that their lives have no value. More specifically, you’re saying that you, with your superior intellectual understanding of what’s happening in the world, have the right to pronounce which human lives have value, and which ones don’t.

          This is the exact same delusional mentality of the elites who are responsible for this horror show.

          I consider myself exceptionally intelligent. But the older I get, the more I realize that intelligence–when separated from love, compassion, empathy and joy–is nothing more than the ability to rationalize bad ideas.

          We know the elites have deep contempt for the majority of humanity. We also know that they have much greater worldly power and resources than we can ever hope to have. The idea that we should create our own little group of misanthropes who hold the millions upon millions of “NPCs” in contempt… and somehow triumph over gazillionaires who hold us in even greater contemp… is a spectacularly bad idea. No matter how intelligent you make it sound, it’s insane on its face.

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          1. And yet another one who creates a strawpuppet and then starts attacking it crying victory.

            You can keep your utter BS you vomit over me.

            NPC = Non Player Character, or as I like to describe it too, Non Processing Capacity, which you seem to suffer from

            All the BS about value and accusations that my ideas are like those of the Animal Farmers, what an utter sick moron you are.

            NPC. “People” who have WILLFULLY chosen to remove them from the Homo sapiens pool, become actors you stop interacting with in your life. They are mutants. They have chosen themselves, there is no force involved (another reason why your accusations are so wrong). They had ALLLL the information to choose from and they chose to become the puppets of the Animal Farmers.

            I had it one day when I went out with Molly. All the braindead masked wombies walking around and I just saw them as what they should be. Characters like in a game, or extras in a movie you don’t interact with; they are NPCs in our lives.

            Misanthropes? Whut? I defend HUMANITY, you idiot. The ones behaving like nothing has changed and infesting their lives with braindead wombies, NPCs and voluntary mutants are the ones giving up humanity.

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            1. Gaia, I know from reading this blog for a while that Scott is neither a moron nor an idiot nor anything of the sort. Quite the opposite, actually. He criticized your statement, and he has a point. Think about it. You have a point, too, of course. But there is no need to descend to the level of insults. If I were you I’d apologize.

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              1. Someone accusing ME of being antihuman or Animal Farmer-like, while that is exactly what I stand up against and the other accusations can only be a moron. Not my choice to start insulting, he did. All based on strawmen, not on what I said.

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            2. Humanity is something I can give up? That’s an interesting intellectual concept. As far as I know, I haven’t given mine up yet, so, uh, thanks for defending me, Gaia.

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            3. At what level do you start seeing this? Do you really need to be surrounded by wombies who have had 30, 50, whatever amount of modifying material in them?

              Back in the good ol’ days, when principles still mattered, people were shaved bald and kicked out of town for the treason I read here.

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              1. First of all, I have disagreed with an idea you espoused and drew a parallel between that idea and the dehumanizing ideas of the Animal Farmers. I called the idea insane. I did not call you insane. Nor have I called you an idiot or a moron. Disagreeing with me about this doesn’t makes you an idiot or a moron. You are obviously much more than your opinion on this matter, as am I.

                Furthermore, I’m not making a strawman argument. I am talking about what I see as the implications of actual things you’ve actually said.

                The people you define as NPCs make up the majority of the global population by a wide margin. If this were the good ol’ days and the globe was a town, you wouldn’t be in a position to define their actions (or thoughts or opinions) as treasonous. And if, somehow, you were able to round ’em up and shave ’em bald and run ’em out of town, the town would then just be made up of you and maybe a few of your Discord followers if you could get ’em to move there, which they probably wouldn’t, so that would suck.

                It is easy to characterize my rejection of the NPC meme as foolish sentimental attachment to “wombies.” But, while sentiment certainly plays a part in it, I also reject the idea for purely practical reasons. You can’t “cancel” the majority of the world.

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                1. The people you define as NPCs make up the majority of the global population by a wide margin.

                  Exactly. Anyone who is not part of your world, of the people you interact or have interacted with, is an NPC (Non-Player/Playable Character). So your uncle is an NPC to me, just like mine is an NPC to you.

                  If this were the good ol’ days and the globe was a town, you wouldn’t be in a position to define their actions (or thoughts or opinions) as treasonous. And if, somehow, you were able to round ’em up and shave ’em bald and run ’em out of town, the town would then just be made up of you and maybe a few of your Discord followers if you could get ’em to move there, which they probably wouldn’t, so that would suck.

                  It is easy to characterize my rejection of the NPC meme as foolish sentimental attachment to “wombies.” But, while sentiment certainly plays a part in it, I also reject the idea for purely practical reasons. You can’t “cancel” the majority of the world.

                  You made a strawman. You made the jump that my use of NPC somehow means these people are not human anymore (you even use the word ‘dehumanize’ which is the EXACT opposite of my message). Your unvaxxed uncle is human, even though he is an NPC for me. Just like my unvaxxed uncle for you.

                  I draw the line at the mutating Covid vaccine. Not only because it is filled with new technologies going much farther than “regular” vaccines (some of which may be in a research stage, some or it may be outright fake/fearmongering, but clearly this industry is the leading in the world, together with Amazon and mask makers), but mainly because this is just the first in a long line of steps to mutate humans away from what they are.

                  I wonder when you guys are going to make this distinction and how you think about the future. It will only become more difficult if you don’t make the right moral choices today.

                  After the 30th vaccine? After the 100th jab? When do you recognize there is a division created for us and take advantage of that to strip away the mutants and wombies (masked wandering zombies who have not been jabbed) from your life.

                  This is the opportunity for us, humans, to align, but if people not even recognize the split in society being developed at warpspeed and act upon it, there is little hope for you. I keep living my life and if more and more mutants disappear from my life, even though it is hard with loved ones, the defence of humankind is much more important than people who will stray away more and more from “us, crazy conspies” (as is the general view of “us”) anyway.

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                2. Now we’re getting somewhere.

                  I would say it is premature to call people who’ve gotten the jabs “mutants” because we don’t know what the short or long-term effects are. Stephers and others have done a lot of research that may very well support your characterization of the jabbed as mutants, but we are still speculating. My mother—despite agreeing that COVID is a monstrous hoax—got the jab because she’s a conformist, and the last time I checked, she was still a human being. Sorry, but I’m not willing to think of my mother as a mutant at this phase. I suspect that if you continue to verbally bully people into making that leap while the people they love maintain all the signs of being human beings even after they get the jab, you will continue to be frustrated by the reactions you get. But, hey, it’s your head. Bang it against brick walls all you want.

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                3. Also, just wanted to say I’ve noticed how slippery you have been with terminology, which is another thing that reminds me of the animal farmers. They have confused and confounded debate by changing the definitions of terms like herd immunity and even vaccine. You’ve done the same thing with NPCs. A Non Playing Character who has Non Processing Capacity is a very specific judgment. But now you say Anyone who is not part of your world, of the people you interact or have interacted with, is an NPC. That is a completely different definition, and it is flagrantly disingenuous of you to suggest I should have understood that was what you meant all along by the term, when all I have to do is scroll up and see how stridently and forcefully you described it in the more negative, condemnatory sense.

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                  1. The Non Processing Capacity is an alternative use of the abbreviation. It indicates wombies, normies, or people who even understand this is is one “Monstrous Hoax” and STILL consensually rape themselves with toxins.

                    There are no facepalms enough for that.

                    And if you don’t want to “bully” others with the words they deserve, then “bully” yourself.

                    Are you going to take the vaccine, son?
                    No mom, I don’t want to become a mutant.

                    * self reflection moment *

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            4. Dear Gaia, your personal proclivities to insult and attack are well known here. Back off please. I would normally just delete the above comment, but since Michael has responded, and in a civil manner, I would also be deleting his comment.

              Behave yourself,please. I hate banning people, as it is a form of humiliation. Just behave yourself.

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              1. Ah, it is perfectly fine to insult ME with the sickest accusations (that I would be like the idiots I resist against), but when I respond to that, I am the bad guy.

                Clear, this is no place for thorough discussion, it’s an echo chamber like I have observed many times before.

                Banned for calling an idiot an idiot. Welcome to 2021. And these are supposed to be the freedom lovers, allegedly standing up against this tyranny.

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                1. You are perfectly capable of dealing with others, even those you don’t like, with civility while at the same time making your points. That’s a sign of intelligence, restraint and manners. I know that English is not your first language, so you might not be aware of the saying that revenge is a dish best served cold. These heated words will pass here, but your screaming attitude will remain in all our minds, not your real wisdom, which is forgotten. If you place your response within civil dialogue, you’ll leave a lasting imprint. But it takes work, thought, restraint.

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  18. In short…excerpt from the PDF.

    “WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE?

    If used in animals, successful implementation of self-spreading vaccines would prevent spillover of pathogens with pandemic potential into human populations without the need for difficult and costly mass vaccination operations in animal populations. For example, inoculation of relatively few bats and nonhuman primates against Ebola could potentially limit or eliminate human outbreaks. Sufficient coverage could even eradicate animal diseases, permanently eliminating these risks to both animals and humans.

    For human use, targeted release of weakly transmissible self-spreading vaccine early in an outbreak could create herd immunity in communities and prevent an outbreak from becoming a pandemic. If introduced later, after an outbreak has become widespread, self-spreading vaccines could still help to protect susceptible individuals and limit the number of new cases and prevent catastrophic outcomes.
    While self-spreading vaccines could help reduce illness and death in a severe pandemic, this approach comes with several big challenges.

    One important component of the current vaccination approach for humans is the informed consent process. In order to receive a vaccine, individuals (or their legal guardians) must be informed about the risks of vaccination by a healthcare provider and provide their consent before being vaccinated. Those who decline are not forced to receive a vaccine. In the case of self-spreading vaccines, the individuals directly vaccinated would have this option, but those to whom the vaccine subsequently spreads would not.

    Additionally, self-spreading vaccines would potentially infect individuals with contraindications, such as allergies, that could be life-threatening. The ethical and regulatory challenges surrounding informed consent and prevention and monitoring of adverse events would be critical challenges to implementing this approach even in an extreme event.

    Finally, there is a not insignificant risk of the vaccine virus reverting to wild-type virulence, as has sometimes occurred with the oral polio vaccine—which is not intended to be fully virulent or transmissible, but which has reverted to become both neuro-virulent and transmissible in rare instances. This is both a medical risk and a public perception risk; the possibility of vaccine-induced

    disease would be a major concern to the public. Modeling reports suggest that making self-spreading vaccines weakly transmissible might reduce the risk of reversion to wild-type virulence by limiting the number of opportunities for the virus to evolve. However, weakly transmissible vaccines would have to be introduced to more people to obtain sufficient immunity in the target population.”

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    1. EMSFreeSpirit:

      I appreciate your very important question. I am working on developing a recommended protocol. It will take some time as I continue to observe more, gather additional anecdotal reports, experience more firsthand symptoms (on which I can elaborate if you are interested), and continue to drill down into more studies. Even so, I want to be very cautious about promoting any particular brands – whether it be supplements or healing devices. I also need to be clear that I am offering educational support rather than medical advice whenever I suggest detox methods. Further, while I maintain that supplements and devices may be helpful to support “immune systems,” in this particular case (COVID), I perceive there is no virus, but, rather a toxin (a nanotoxin/group of nanotoxins operating in tandem with EMFs), and therefore, I am focusing on detox/deactivation (precisely as you have implied in your question). I posit that this nanotoxin is “smart” technology-enabled, so I think we are dealing with a toxin that is very new and stealth, and designed to be persistent (most likely graphene/carbon nano-based, and possibly including some metallic components). I consider it non-lethal (at least in the short-term) in most cases.

      All that said – as I do not want to leave you completely empty-handed – given that these ENPs are ionic/cationic in effect (typically exhibiting a positive surface charge), I am experimenting with ionic detox via an ionic foot detox bath (again, I do not want to promote products here). Because it seems these particles may assemble/replicate in acidic environments, I do recommend a more alkaline diet regimen (although I do not recommend going extreme with it, just attempt to keep your internal environment leaning toward the alkaline side of the scale). I suggest working on decreasing toxic load in general (again, I am not referring to viral load), as the ENPs may bond to other circulating toxins/pathogens/heavy metals already present in the body – causing an increase in reactive oxygen species (ROS). Accordingly, supplements like diatomaceous earth and activated charcoal (bamboo-based) can assist in safely moving pathogens out of the body without causing too much stress on the organs (and herxing reactions). I like cilantro extract (again, I do recommend a particular brand) for safely removing heavy metals. I do not recommend stronger chelation methods, as they can be too intense for the body, causing even more symptoms.

      One of my favorite herbs is teasel root (as a tincture), as it ostensibly stimulates the cells and muscles to help support the elimination channels, assisting in moving stubborn and elusive toxins/pathogens out of the body. Be sure to follow directions on the bottle, and start VERY slowly – as in one drop a day, and slowly working up to two-three drops/day. There is a protocol online. I apologize I do not have links handy, as it is late, and I am replying off-the-cuff here. If you proceed with any of these recommendations, be sure, as you probably already know, to hydrate frequently with high-quality spring or glacier water, to help your body filtrate the toxins through more safely and effectively.

      Most of my detox methods also include homeopathics, but I prefer to recommend them on an individualized basis, in accord with one’s constitution. At the very least, though, taking a homeopathic cell salt combination (that includes all 12 mineral cell salts) will support cellular health and help to balance cell metabolism.

      I am not recommending colloidal/nano silver products, nor zeolite products at this time. I do not recommend any EMF protective pendants or stickers for electronic devices. I have spent way too much money over the years on such products, with little to no noticeable benefit.

      I suggest wearing natural clothing, like organic cotton and hemp, and avoiding clothing made with synthetic materials. While many women may not want to hear this, I suggest wearing less (or no) jewelry that is metallic. There is some lovely jewelry, though, that is made solely of natural materials, and will not be conductive around EMFs (like wood beads, hemp, gemstones, etc.). If you want to talk about specific gemstones that could potentially be protective, I can elaborate, or you can simply search online for suggestions (i.e., black tourmaline). When I remember to do it, I like to place a shungite stone in my drinking water bottle (that I continue to rinse and re-use).

      I suggest, if you have not already, doing your best to hardwire any computers/laptops you have. If you have to use wireless technology, try to turn it off every night before bed. Always keep your bluetooth off on your phone (in your settings). Keep your cell phone on airplane mode whenever you can (if you don’t have to receive phone calls), and always turn it off at night, keeping it out of your bedroom space. If you use earbuds, I suggest a version that is air-filled and always wired – never wireless/bluetooth-enabled.

      Finally, there are some products that can be used for external/topical support: I like essential oils of frankincense (expensive), myrrh, and rose/rose otto that can be applied externally or used in a diffuser. I think they are protective at this time as they exhibit high healing frequencies; I also feel that creams with ionic gold and peat moss are helpful in EMF protection. They can be expensive, though, and tougher to find.

      I hope this is somewhat helpful in answering your question. Please do not feel like you have to go out and purchase all of these products, and completely change your lifestyle overnight. Take what resonates and leave what does not, and start simply and less is more sometimes, if you know what I mean.

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      1. EMSFreeSpirit: I forgot to add epsom salt baths as an inexpensive method of calming and detox – can do full-body or just feet (especially if you don’t have a bath tub/soaking tub). I am guessing you already are familiar with this though. Also, while I do not recommend specific faith-based or meditation modalities (i.e., prayers or rituals), I encourage you to follow whatever aligns with your inner inclinations, tradition, or religious/spiritual practice. Personally, I do love to burn sage or palo santo to clear spaces (at home, in my car, etc.). All my best to you and yours ~ Stephers. 🙂

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        1. EMSFreeSpirit:

          This is my second addendum to my response to your question, as I took more time to review my research and reflect on my current and evolving detox/support protocol. Based on this particularly helpful research paper from 2013: “Mechanisms of Nanoparticle-Induced Oxidative Stress and Toxicity” https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2013/942916/, I want to share with you what I intend to do for myself (and my loved ones) to support my physical body moving forward. These two articles are most helpful in this regard: https://draxe.com/nutrition/top-10-high-antioxidant-foods/ and https://draxe.com/nutrition/superoxide-dismutase/. As is emphasized in the linked articles, I will be focusing on adding antioxidants such as glutathione and superoxide dismutase through food-based sources, rather than supplements. I do have a homeopathic-based glutathione supplement, but I find that most glutathione supplements on the market have polymers/binders in them that may paradoxically serve to further contribute to oxidative stress https://magazine.labdoor.com/what-is-hydroxypropyl-methylcellulose/. So, please do not go and rush out to purchase glutathione tablets – they may compound the issue. Please reach out in the comments if you have any other questions.

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    1. Had issues replying so I tried link to blog as workaround. Its a spiritual/intuitive post following the wetiko idea. Good company here 😉

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  19. Sorry to be posting so much, but this is such an incredibly fertile conversation!

    Stephers, in the vein of solving the problem at hand, especially with regard to the genetic and transmissability factors, have a look at this link regarding the work of Peter Garaiev.

    https://home.solari.com/dr-peter-gariaev-1942-2020-the-wave-genome-nobel-prize-candidate/

    Would it be a good idea to create a separate posting as a forum to exchange the different solutions that others are finding? A sort of crowdsourcing if solutions.

    There are so many “solution” golden nuggets strewn throughout this website, and it would be great to see them all together in one place so we can start getting to work to counter the F-Wits!

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  20. Sorry, I posted this elsewhere too by mistake.

    Have a look at this Russian woman’s work that takes Garaiev’s work on a bit of a different walk.

    https://www.wavegenome.com/second-birth-mini-tesla-psi-generator.html

    The theory behind her wearable tech.

    https://www.wavegenome.com/theory—105810451054105610481071.html

    Let’s put heads together with so many good minds here and create an approachable, necessarily multi-layered solution for the times at hand relating to all that is being shared here. There’s no time to waste, aye?

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    1. Pamela: I appreciate that you want to offer support and potential solutions to readers here. That is extremely noble in these challenging times. However, I also caution that this is a blog and not a marketing site. So, please take that into consideration when commenting here. I reviewed the work of Irene Caesar http://wavegenome.com/ra_shield.html. Her material is new to me. I see that her “Ra Shield” is being sold for $2,500 US, and was created on the basis that there is a weaponized virus that was released to cause COVID. I can not recommend her product here at POM, and, unfortunately, red flags abound, given that her technological device is being sold to “restore” the body from a “virus” that has yet to be properly isolated or substantiated. Moving forward, please feel free to offer solutions that avoid the promotion (while I know it was unintentional on your part) of expensive devices that are experimental, with shaky or questionable scientific foundation. This is unchartered territory for most of us here, and it is understandable that you would want to explore healing solutions. One reason that I highly respect Tony P. is because he promotes self-empowerment, and building a “home-made” device with his “recipe” to inexpensively produce a potentially healing product. I hope that helps to clarify my personal position. I cannot speak on behalf of others here at POM.

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      1. Noted! My apologies to you, Stephers, and the group. Thank you for your feedback.

        I absolutely agree that homespun is the way to go. I was thinking we could somehow apply that technology towards a low to no-cost solution, since it seems that there is a scalar component.

        Would you the folks at piece of mindful prefer that any post gets cleared before posting to the group at large? I don’t want to muddy the waters of this group in any way.

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