Every once in a while I try to explain critical elements of global debt-slavery. It’s not a popular topic, I suppose, because we all — excluding the ruling elite — live the same lie. Democracy. Freedom. Justice. Equality. You get the picture. All giant lies. The following comment over at Moon of Alabama this morning may help bring reality into greater focus for some who either deny, or cannot, for one reason or another, bring themselves to accept what simply is. Thank you “donkeytale.” Enjoy!
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“Money Talks and Bullshit Walks” We live in a multipolar reality. That is, there is a unified, interconnected world of the global financial elites who control and dominate currency and credit issuance worldwide through a handful of unaccountable international banking institutions and there is also a subordinate world of national politics of many countries also controlled and dominated by the same elites (and their lackeys) whose job it is to “educate”, “explain” and “rationalise” the fact of its debt enslavement to .998 of the world’s population. The most naked exposition of the dissonant aspects of this divergence between globalism for the rich and nationalism for the rest of us is found within the EU but it is in fact the same duality in existence everywhere for all of us. Most people can only comprehend and identify with the national characteristics of this dissonant, dual belief system. Most people, the overwhelming majority at the moment, simply don’t care as long as food is on the table, and the babies and the elderly are attended too. Some believe the solution to the ills of our indebtedness is to be found in a populist, nationalist politics which can free us from control by wealthy internationists. We see Brexit and “Amerikkka First” as leading examples of this plebian desire. The many must be convinced to understand their enslavement by the system before any change of lasting consequence can occur. This likely will take the starvation of our babies and the euthanasia of our elderly before we will wake up to our enslavement. The international financial system will crush the illusions of the Brexiteers and the Amerikkkan Firsters (this in fact has largely already occurred). Currency control and indebtedness will not vanish simply with a breakdown of any nationalist political order. One cannot eat money as the old saying goes and this is true no matter what colour is printed on the bank notes. Others comprehend the true enemy as a system which must be destroyed with the accumulated “wealth of nations” (which in reality is privately-held by an international sliver) must be redistributed equitably among the .998. Still, what is hoped for by the intelligentsia is still a nationalist solution to a global problem. What isn’t reconciled within this viewpoint is the elasticity of global financiers to accommodate any change in the world’s political re-ordering, short of the destruction of capitalism itself. The finacial system serves one function, and doesn’t in fact care which individuals, national currencies, banks or corporations gain or lose from the machinations. This international system was created out of the ruins of WWI. The system survived the Great Depression when socialism reached its zenith of political popularity in the industrialised world, and in turn survived (and in fact greatly accommodated and assisted) the extreme Nazi nationalist dream of international political control. Today we see the increasing impact of the once isolationist Chinese openly participating in the globalist system and in time through sheer weight of numbers Asia will come to dominate the system. Until this day arrives the Chinese are very comfortable operating within the old Eurocentric structure as teh current system works functions quite well for their elites. In reality, it doesn’t matter whether the international currency is dollar, yuan or Euro denominated. The illusion that it does matter is a figment of a nationalist mindset which invests morality where none in fact exists. Sanctions have a temporary, terrible impact on national banking structures it is true but mainly to the detriment of the .998 while the .002 have already moved their personal assets out of harms way (for tax reasons unrelated to sanctions). The Russians and Chinese for domestic political purposes now talk about creating a separate system of wealth through competing banking systems. This is mostly the nationalist political order providing false hopes to their own subjects. Merely the thought of a competing globalist banking system is absurd on its face and should be enough for any intelligent layman to understand the occurrence of systemic change can happen only as the greater bulk of real wealth underlying a currency grows great enough over time to supercede the wealth represented by current denominations. This will by necessity be a long, extemely slow process because none of the Amerikkkan, Euro, Russian or Chinese elites will risk substantial amounts of their current fortunes simply to placate their own subjugated populations with anything other than ongoing, nationalist political rhetoric. Posted by: donkeytale | Oct 15, 2018 7:57:09 AM | 6 http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2018-53.html#comments |
Piece of Mindful 
How anyone with half a brain can look around them today and not be aware of the absurdity of our current systems. Here in the UK we hugely increase our national debt in order to finance overseas corrupt nations whilst our own country is sinking into a third world nightmare. Where is the logic in this other than increasing the wealth of the bankers through taxpayer interest payments plus capital ?
Whatever the rights or wrongs of Brexit, it was the people’s choice and yet the political class are determined to keep us in the EU. Democracy?
Whilst we have foodbanks and people sleeping on the streets the BBC proudly announces yet another royal pregnancy. Another one to keep in the style to which the Royals are so accustomed. Many parents struggle meanwhile to afford to keep their own children. The recent marriage of the ……………………….I can’t even remember her name……………Princess something or other …………….has been paid for from the taxpayers’ hard earned wages .
These are just a few very recent examples in the UK .There are many more. I expect America has its own. Yes, wake up people. We deserve better. Much better.
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Brexit is a scam, the votes were roughly 50/50, like the US elections, another divide and conquer ploy, while the banksters rip off the masses behind closed doors. It’s the banksters who cause depressions.
In Europe, Britain is the biggest exporter of German autos, the Germans would be cutting off their collective noses to spite their faces. Is that any way to run a Business?
Germany’s gold resources in the New York and Paris are to be repatriated, as are Hungary’s in London, a sign of the time$? Fiat currency was designed to make those who have access to low interest richer, and the rest of us poorer.
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Not 50/50.
52/47
A clear majority for Brexit.
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I used the word ‘roughly’ not precisely, like the Scottish Independence vote, roughly 50/50, like Trump V Clinton, roughly 50/50, them against us, divide and conquer, take no prisoners.
Yep, I goofed on ex- and import, that’ll teach me not to cut and paste.
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Don’t you mean Britain is the biggest IMPORTER of German autos?
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Thanks Steve for the reminder to put MofA on the blog list.
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It is the “…figment of a nationalist mindset which invests morality where none in fact exists.” This is our conditioning. Mind control. Nations only exist in the cartoon world of nations. Please, dear friends, “the (correct) what” must be established before who and why can be sorted out.
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It’s chatter like this that has got us into the mess we’re in. I can’t stand all this airy fairy metaphysical stuff. It’s rubbish.
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Apologies for any (metaphysical) confusion. I spoke of nations as fiction created by man-made law. Nations are by definition, and by law (contract) corporations. Corporations are about making profit, which is opposed to our natural existence.
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Nations are not a man made fiction. They are the natural extension and evolution of the tribe of Early Man. They are not in themselves ‘evil’ but the way they have been allowed to develop , is. We live in a real physical world and higher thoughts and spiritual reflection won’t solve any of our problems………………..wasn’t the era of the ‘flower children’ and ‘give peace a chance’ part of our keepers’ agenda to emasculate and blind us to the truth?
It’s our very passivity that has brought humans to their knees.
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https://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/waking-up-is-hard-to-do/
Here’s a link that can explain more about what I’m getting at. Here’s a quote from the article: “A free man can not be a citizen. A free man cannot be a Sovereign. A free man cannot be a person. A free man can only be a man with no title, status, or benefit.
One of the most important factors in “waking up” is the realization that only the self has power over the self. With this comes the carnal understanding that from the beginning of time through to the “revolutions” that supposedly formed this country and began the “hippie” and “sexual” revolutions, as well as all other aspects of change that have happened in history, have all been controlled by very powerful groups of men who sought to gain more control over the “body politic” as a flock of sheep.
In this revelation, the realization that the concept of revolution can only really occur within the individual and his or her perceptions is key.”
Anyway, if you believe “nations are not man-made fiction,” I would encourage you to not rule it out completely without doing at least some rudimentary research. Maybe we can chat about this again. Likewise, if you have substantial information that supports your position, I’m happy to take a hard look. I’m just the messenger here, so there’s no reason we cannot exchange ideas in the future.
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you people still believe the official narrative of the national debt? There is no nation anymore. Maybe you didn’t get the memo. We are globalized and unified, everywhere are the same shops with the same choice of groceries. What makes you think, a nation can have debts and to whom? Other nations? All nations have debts in case you didn’t know that. That’s an invented story to make you pay taxes in hope the debts can be repaid, but there is no such thing. Call it money laundering or whatever. TPTB will always make sure, you’ll keep only that part of your salary what they consider necessary to still make you go to work everyday. It’s part of the system stupid. Did any nation have to reduce its standard of living? No. Every year we all spend more on holidays, on toys, on clothes, cars, TV-sets, etc. no? Every country. Not only GB, Germany or France. It also applies to Poland, Russia, Bulgaria, you name it, even though in those countries the standard of living may be slightly different. The fairy tale of the national debt is part of the fear business necessary to control the masses. It’s just that our greed for more always runs faster then the surplus we get. Life is getting better for everybody, maybe not with the same speed and not on the same level but still. Stop complaining, will you? Don’t worry and be happy. “After the holiday” is also “before the vacation”.
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Other than use if the word, “stupid,” which the people you are addressing are surely not, I tend to agree. One other use of the “national debt” and the “deficit” is to blunt any efforts at real reform. We cannot afford it, you see. The U.S. is badly in need of centralized health care, a cost-saving measure that would yield better medical care for everyone, but you see, we cannot afford it. It’s the debt, you see. It also increases the deficit. Same with the cost of higher education … we cannot afford it so that burden has to fall on kids whose brains are not yet fully developed and who are not qualified to decide to enter into wage slavery. It increases the debt, deficit. It is all fiction used, as you say, for social control.
Anyway, Muller, I always enjoy and welcome your comments, and you’re always welcome here. We all overreact at times, but please, in the future, no name calling, especially not at these fine ladies and gentlemen who are engaged in this thread. (If it is Skink, have at it.)
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come on, I meant it as fun. No offense intended. I hear or read it often that way, like in “It’s the economy, stupid!” (Bill Clinton). I don’t think, the US (or any other country) needs more health care. It takes care of your health (and your money) and keeps you sick for as long as possible. Doctors don’t make money if you don’t visit them. Similar thing with education. Higher or not. The most of the time there is wasted. We learn little real knowledge and lots of propaganda with short expiration date. After school we start to work somewhere and learn again what really counts. That’s why home schooling is not that bad. If you aim for an academical career, then you’ll need the degrees of course. I met some top bankers and partners who only made secondary schools as children and learned everything working for decades in the firm. That’s not very common though. I also have friends who are managers in big companies and don’t have any official degrees from universities or else. They committed themselves to the firm for the whole life and slowly climbed the career ladder learning everything in the firm. They didn’t waste any time in the school system though.
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Again, I do not disagree. Consider use of emoticons, however, as our writing is not always read as intended.
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B.
I usually appreciate what you contribute, but the use of “you people,” coupled with “stupid” is hard to get past. “…fun?” You presented — unintended or not — precisely the kind of arbitrary, subjective, hierarchical model that drives most divide and conquer tactics. If you believe you are superior to “you people,” why not then share that superior wisdom, or whatever it is, with grace. That’s what I interpreted reading that comment, anyway. FYI, “you people,” like nations, does not, in fact, really exist.
Nobody likes being talked down to. Most of the people here at POM are way smarter than I, so I enjoy putting out a few thoughts with the idea that maybe a conversation can move the ball closer to reality for all to witness, and deal with as they see fit.
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That was a good ol’ fashion “knock’em down,drag ’em out”, on-line brawl. Hope you Boys got that one out of your system. Come on,you got to cut B.MU,a little slack here, after all,He did post that comment past Midnight. Maybe he just had a long day at the office (the world) and he was taking it out on his computer. No disrespect towards you,B. For, at least it wasn’t able to get physical, in keeping with Aristotle’s treatise on the philosophical study of the ultimate causes and underlying nature of things…At least no one’s Metacarpals ended up in anyone’s ASS.
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It was 7:46 AM in Germany when Müller posted that comment…
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it say’s 12:46 AM here. Sorry,MU. I guess your day had just begun. on the subject of time,Gaia. it alway’s seems the time posted on the computer here is like two hours off. I’m posting this right now at exactly 6:53 PM
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Your post shows up 17:04 PM here.
The thing is that B Müller lives in Frankfurt (am Main) in Germany, and not in US time zones.
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Yes,I forgot he lives in Germany on a different time zone,until you mentioned it…Thank you.
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As I understand, a she. And please, we all go a little overboard at times, so let’s just move on. Mistakes are the best teachers around. I made one one time. I thought I was wrong about something. Turned out I wasn’t. Ahr ahr. That came from a cartoon strip I read as a kid, Beetle Bailey.
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it’s a “she” and the name is Barbara, never mind.
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I saw what you did there…
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I didn’t.
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I see, my fine sarcasm is wasted on you (lol) and you need the laughs in the background to recognize a joke. Never mind. I’ll just rewrite my arguments here.
There is no nation anymore. We are globalized and unified, everywhere are the same shops with the same choice of groceries. How can a nation have debts and to whom? Other nations? All nations have debts. To each other? No, then maybe to the future generations? That’s an invented story to make us pay taxes in hope the debts can be repaid, but there is no such thing. Call it money laundering or whatever. TPTB will always make sure, we’ll keep only that part of our salary what they consider necessary to still make us go to work everyday. It’s part of the system. Did any nation have to reduce its standard of living? No. Every year we all spend more on holidays, on toys, on clothes, cars, TV-sets, etc. no? Every country. Not only USA, GB, Germany or France. It also applies to Poland, Russia, Bulgaria, China, you name it, even though in those countries the standard of living may be slightly different. The fairy tale of the national debt is part of the fear business necessary to control the masses. It’s just that our greed for more always runs faster then the surplus we are allowed to share. Life is getting better for everybody, maybe not with the same speed and not on the same level but still. There is no reason to complain. We all have a good life now or can have, no?
Health car takes care of your health (and your money) and will keep you sick for as long as possible. Doctors don’t make money if you don’t visit them. Similar thing with education. Higher or not. The most of the time there is wasted. We learn little real knowledge and lots of propaganda with short expiration date. After school we start to work somewhere and learn again what really counts.
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Barbara, in general you are speaking with an audience that is able to hear what you are saying, but I think at times you are too broad in your sweeping conclusions. You tell me that there is no DNA evidence, for instance, an yet when I bring my own personal experience in that there is validity to it, you dismiss it without consideration.
I agree that the object of the tax system is to keep us living marginally, and yet those who put the US system in place allowed two giant loopholes that affect ordinary people, the Earned Income Credit, which when last I looked paid thousands of dollars to poor people with kids, and the homeowners exemption, which allows people to sell their homes and pocket all of the proceeds without tax. You are generally right, but it is not as completely Machiavellian as you say.
In health care, it is the psychiatric, or mental health system that is full of quacks who depend on people never getting well. Ordinary physicians are very good with trauma-based matters, though they cannot do much about cancer, aging, Alzheimer’s and the like. But again my personal experience … I have compressed discs in my upper spine. I recently went in for an MRI, and then consulted a doctor. Here is what I learned: I’ll be OK, maybe for the rest of my life. It is a condition that does not need to be treated, so he told me to go my way, keep doing what I am doing (hard labor on our property and regular trips to the gym), and only come back to see him if I notice myself stumbling when I should not. It was worthwhile to have the procedure and speak to him, and he did not want to extend it, the exact opposite of what you say. Other people who are not as active as I am have opted for a surgical procedure that allows insertion of spacers in the spine through the front of the neck … and it works. They resume normal lives.
Anecdotes anecdotes I know, but I do not condemn the whole practice of medicine. The doctor who treated my brother’s cancer (he died, mercifully) quit the profession because he could not help people as he had hoped he could. He’s a good man. It is not as bad as you say. Our biggest problem in the US is called AHIP, America’s Health Insurance Providers. You are well-versed in matters of economics, and so I do not need to expain to you thee principles of enclosure and racketeering, and so I won’t.
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Mark, I’m not dismissing anything. You’ve had experienced the not so perfect law system which sometimes fabricates evidences out of thin air. They told the public the DNA test proved the innocence of one guy and the guilt of one another. Why did they wait so many years? How did they find the other guy? Did they DNA analyzed all the neighborhood? Did they also analyzed the ones who moved and no longer live there? How can they spot the difference between two humans if the DNA from a mouse and from a human is supposedly 99% the same? You cannot prove the DNA of two samples is the same, you can only prove it is different. It’s like in those similar looking pictures, where you have to spot all the differences. Of course I don’t claim, DNA is a hoax in itself. It is a chemical substance which plays a part in transporting the chromosomes between cells. That’s all we know for sure, everything else is merely a suggestion used to spend lots of money on expensive machines and useless procedures.
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“They,” the legal system, did nothing. They do not look back knce they have a conviction. Jim Bromgard was freed by the Innocence Project, outsiders who looked into his case and because the evidence was preserved they were able to use DNA to prive he was innocent. Twelve years later a man living 200 miles away was busted on drug charges, and he plea bargained. Part of the deal, 21 conditions, was that he submit to DNA analysis. They got a hit, and THEN found plenty of other evidence that he was the perpetrator. I think there is something to it.
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sounds scripted to me, sorry to say that. As I wrote, you cannot prove that two DNA’s are equal, you can only find differences.
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I don’t imagine you will be convinced, but I tend to place the events in sequence. I sense you are doing the opposite – I say DNA led to exoneration of a man and discovery of the real perp followed by new evidence, you say that discovery of the perp and new evidence led to DNA. Your argument is just too self-serving.
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See the work by the late Harold Hillman on biology mistakes and frauds:
https://www.big-lies.org/media/index.html#cells
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I actually already heard about Hillman from Stefan Lanka regarding his main field: neurobiology. He is right of course in his claim, that fixed organic probes are denatured and electron microscopes show artefacts instead of reality. Fixation creates cell membranes which does not exist in nature. But this is not completely useless. That way we still can find nano particles collected on neurons in brain probes. I don’t listen to audio recordings except it’s music. Thanks anyway.
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doctors are trained to read their patients. The good ones are. They see immediately if you’re scared and wish a treatment or if you’re skeptical and won’t do what the good uncle doctor tells you. In your case the doctor choose not to suggest a surgery or other treatment . Others are not so lucky. There is no miracle cure which will heal you except what is the integral part of your body. Doctors can only cause new pain and make the healing process slower. Chinese medicine, which is thousands years old, focuses on increasing your will to become healthy again. It uses natural products (herbs and weeds and such) which positively influence your mood. Our “modern” medicine is only a few hundreds years old and based on middle age superstitions, like the idea of poison and counter poison (or toxin and antitoxin). Virus means poison in Latin. That’s where it comes from. It’s one big hoax but it gives work to millions of people. And that’s why it is so heavily protected.
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I am less black/white than that. You were not at the appointment and yet seem to know more than I do about my condition and the doctor.
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I understand you’re over 60 now. Bones hurt, back hurts, everything gets worn out. You keep in shape of course but it’s the age and there is nothing more you can do. Doctors know that. And I know doctors well. I have some in the family. I may sound cynical but only if one prefers to deceive himself.
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Sarcasm is not easily understood if it cannot be heard. Seeing a facial expression may sometimes help — my aging brain, at least — sort out anger from the humor. The joke is usually understood by detecting the tone of voice used to depict the opposite of the literal meaning of the words spoken. Sorry I didn’t get your joke. I’ll surely “hear it” next time.
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You are dead-on right … communication in print does not carry with it the necessary subtext to be fully understood. I was advised decades ago when I wrote letters to the editor that I should never use sarcasm, as it does not get read as such. This was in the pre-emoticon era. I hate emoticons, but they serve a practical use, to disarm readers and soften the blow.
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Steve, I don’t think anyone at POM is any smarter than you. Your contribution to this page is an Attribute and a path of Enlightenment, that opens the mind to a sphere of other possibility…and I for one,Enjoy reading your commentary.
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Upon further exploration I realize I have no idea what “smarter” is, except, perhaps a systematic way of estimating some portion of intelligence. I am curious and disorderly, to be sure, and am happy to leave “smarter” to others to figure out. Thanks for the kind words, T.M.
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The ability to think for ourselves, avoid groupthink and crowd following, exercise skepticism in all areas of life, examine contradictions … anyone is capable, few actually do it.
Back in school we were branded when very young, some of us were smart, some of us were dumb. We knew who we were. I just met a high school buddy, Jerry W, who told me that I was one of the smart ones and he was one of the dumb ones. He is not dumb, and he and I could have had the same success in school if they had not had the stupid grading system. But we do live up or down to expectations, don’t we.
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S.K. I was just reading that old post again. it was the one where you said,” NOBODY LIKES BEING TALKED DOWN TO”. in case you were wondering what statement I was talking about.
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Yesterday you made a statement…Most of the people here at POM are way smarter than I. And I just thought you were selling yourself a little short.
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