“Don’t get this wrong: The Beatles were the first manufactured group. Not The Monkees. It was The Beatles.” (Davy Jones of the Monkees, 2006)
I am running this video because it makes me very suspicious. I see it and a few others on YouTube shorts, which I watch most evenings before bed to clear my mind of anything that might keep me awake.
The Beatles were a worldwide phenomenon during the late 1960s-early 1970s. They quit performing in public in August of 1966. After that, we are told, they retired to do studio work, and churned out some memorable albums including Sgt. Pepper, Rubber Soul, Revolver, and others. It has long amazed me how they suddenly got very good, in fact, highly skilled and professional in their songwriting and instrumentalism. I never doubted their vocal abilities
During their concert tours they pretty much played the same songs over and over, many of them covers. Rubber Soul was released in 1965, Revolver right at the time of their retirement, yet none of the songs on those albums were ever performed in public. Mike Williams, the Sage of Quay, is troubling to me in many ways, but in this video he pretty much destroys the idea that the Beatles wrote, laid down the instrument and vocal tracks for Rubber Soul in the short period of time they had after coming off the road in 1965. Keep in mind, he says, that they admitted they had written no new songs while on tour.
I think the promoters behind the Beatles today are new ones on the job, the old ones dead and gone now. I think they are doubling down in response to Williams. The video above, a short clip of the recording of For You Blue, a catchy George Harrison composition we are told. It is very suspicious.
- The album which contained the song, Let It Be, was released in April of 1970. That means that the song was written and recorded before then, over 56 years ago.
- There are as many as three cameras recording high-quality video. Pay close attention and you will see one dedicated to Harrison, one to Lennon/McCartney, and one catching McCartney from a different angle.
- In 1969-70, that could only have been 35mm color film, high quality. Video recordings were not available. Even black and white news stock was done on film.
The cameras used were bulky. I would imagine they were large, as the video quality above is so good that we can see the fine stitches in the shoulder patches of Harrison’s shirt. A home movie of that era would have given us grainy texture along with bleeding and pale colors.- We do not see both the supposed musician AND the instruments being played at once except for John Lennon playing a slide guitar. There we do see his face and hair.
- McCartney (Mike) is shown at the keyboard, but as with all Beatles videos, his face and hands are not visible at once. The piano is conveniently hidden by Lennon’s shoulders during scenes where the two are shown together.
- The Beatles never used a slide guitar in any of their songs, that I am aware of anyway. This would be a one-time deal, and yet Lennon demonstrates remarkable skill at it.
- While Lennon’s head and face are shown in good quality, the arms and fingers are blurry and of almost childlike smoothness.
- Same with Harrison … we can see the individual hairs of his head and mustache, but his neck is of childlike complexion, as if blurred.
- Groups, the Beatles especially, did not record all of the elements of a song in one recording. Yet the sound behind this video is of album-cut quality. It is obviously an overdub, but one of remarkably high quality.
My overriding question is this: The film is over fifty years old. Why did it sit on the shelf all that time? Surely it would have been released along with all of the unending promotions of the Beatles were it available. It is a valuable piece of history.
Please correct me if I am wrong, as I could be over my depth, by my take on this video currently showing on YouTube is that it is an AI construction. Further, I think it was contrived to counteract the work of Williams, Sage of Quay, to show that the Beatles really were talented instrumentalists in addition to vocalists.
I once ran a post here that contained a video of the Beatles supposedly recording Get Back. It was pulled after I posted it, no connection but bad timing for me. In it we see John and George constantly tuning their guitars, and McCartney doing an amazing bass riff with his back to us. Nowhere in the video do we hear any actual tracks of the song, but in an end-of-day scene we see the boys leaving the studio with the final polished version playing over loudspeaker. Fake, fake, fake.
Good lord, the resources that are available, to this day, to carry on the grand illusions of the Beatles.
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I maintain the above video has recreated Harrison, Lennon and McCartney using AI, ad are all current offerings on YouTube regarding the Beatles as they were over 50 years ago. Below is the daughter of Robin Williams, criticizing those who are doing the same with her father.
Piece of Mindful 
I remember the last time on the sullivan show, I believe they or who-ever, was playing hey jude. You can’t see anything but hair. No faces. Don’t think that britain at that time had any less ability to produce a “band” then our intelligence agencies.
I’ve been to 6 so-called concerts. First, santana 1974. Second, eagles, 1976 and last, judas priest, 1985. All were horrible as far as sound. It was a wall of mush.
Now, as for the last three, I’ve also had the pleasure of seeing David Wilcox, at a Luthern Church, Tommy Emanuel at The Stafford Center and Clint Black at L’Auberge.
Beautiful sound and vocals. However, I’ve noticed the more amplified instruments you have in the mix and the higher the competition for volume, the more problems. Even when you have a great sound man.
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I don’t think Jude was ever on Sullivan. I must apologize for knowing crap like this, but that song was released via a video that ran on TV all over the world.
The only concert I truly enjoyed was Peter Paul and Mary in the 1970s. The crowd was subdued, of course, and clapped and cheered after every song. But that’s me, Mr. Laid back. I don’t smoke pot.
We went to a concert at Red Rocks a few years back, and it was a wasteland – think of the song Baba O’Riley by the Who, with that amazing lead in, and that goes out chanting “Teenage wasteland, we’re all wasted,” which was about a concert at Isle of Wright, and also, according to Pete Townshend, about Woodstock.
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It looks very digital, plasticine and synthetic to me.. even Harrison’s face and hair. Not like film. Even compression and conversion to digital, seems like it would retain more filmic quality. Old movies shot on film have a different look, even after digital conversion.
As far as multiple cameras, they may have had 16mm at that time which is pretty good quality but less cumbersome than 35mm.
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Yeah, I don’t know how they did this, or maybe it is real. I watch YouTube shorts before bed at night, and using AI they are able to reconstruct dead people and make them act alive. I assume that, from what I’ve seen, that they could take the Harrison image and construct him as a live 27-year old … another thing about the video, we only see Harrison close up but never interacting with the others. Are they in a room together? It appears Lennon is talking to someone at the beginning that could be him, but as far as I can see, Harrison is just a face. If they were doing him with AI, that would certainly make the job easier.
Anyway, I’ve never seen studio film of them of this quality before now, and so wager AI is involved.
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You missed this from the Davy Jones article that you linked –
‘Jones said he was friends with all of The Beatles. He was a big fan of the group, and he praised George Harrison’s songwriting in particular. He thought George wasn’t given his dues as a musician’
And later Davey continues with “they were incredible, incredible songwriters”
You shill you!
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I only knew of the Davy Jones link because of Williams. I looked it up, found it, but did not read it. Just the quote.
So Davy, himself the product of the false front of the business, did not grasp that the Beatles did not write their own music. Or he did and could not say. We’ll never know.
I do know that Harrison wrote hundreds of songs, most of them shit, by his own admission. He did not have access to the team of song writers assembled by George Martin that gave John and Paul their tunes. So he finally broke through on his own, and wrote some good pieces. He did it the right way. John and Paul faked it. I’ve wondered now and then if John faked his death because he could not live the fake genius life as Paul can.
I don’t know how serious you are in the insult you delivered, but if meant to land, of course it does, but at the same time you completely do not understand the Beatles as I do. Including George, the late bloomer.
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Well that’s a coincidence! In his 4.5 hour presentation (4+5 =9…geddit?!) Mike Williams cuts the Davy Jones interview off at the ‘manufactured’ line thereby omitting the praise that Jones was actually heaping on the Beatles.
‘He did not have access to the team of songwriters assembled by George Martin that gave John and Paul their tunes…’ Really?, why not?!, and how do you know?
So Elvis is still the ‘King’ and everyone knows that he never wrote a single tune. Kids never considered who wrote the songs and still don’t. Robbie Williams…for some inexplicable reason..is one of the UK’s top selling artists and all the kids know that he doesn’t write the songs. It’s a hell of a long list of pop/rock stars who don’t write their own material. So, do you have any explanation at all as to why MI6 or Tavistock would spend so much time and resources inventing a band and pretending that they were the songwriters knowing full well that it obviously doesn’t matter at all? Mike Williams’ line of ‘to change society’ will not suffice by the way!
You appear to have insider knowledge, r.e. Martin and Harrison so I look forward to your insights, good luck!
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It is true that most musicians do not write their own songs. Most come from unsung sources, so to speak, and those who claim to write their own music, John Denver, Bono, for instance … I doubt it. I read somewhere, and so have you probably, that most pop songs come from three sources, names forgotten except Max Martin (MM).
I think our basic disagreement, which I only sense from you, is that you believe Lennon and McCartney were organic and rose to the top on their own. I do not believe that about them or most stars who rise to the top. I think they are selected for stardom, often based on lineage, Alanis Morrisette, for example, a descendant of Alan Morrisette, who rode over on the Mayflower, and Madonna the daughter of Eva Peron, about whom this blog has plenty to share on search. That’s just to name a few. It is said, and I believe, that the music business can make a star out of any clown. And then there is Dave McGowan, who wrote that most of the stars of the 60s and 70s had military families, which I found not to be true of many of them, but rather that they were managed by military officers and given the family name and darkroomed into family photos. There’s that – the spook element that created the groups and stars of the late-60s and early 70s, and probably before and after too. Many, if not most, faked their deaths after their assignments were completed.
In other words, the music business is contrived, so that we’ve not only had only mildly talented superstars (Madonna), but that those who have talent probably are to the manor born and had their entire lives to train and prepare for stardom. Fame is not earned, but given to a select few even as talent abounds in the real world.
About Lennon and McCartney, as I see it, there was a tryout in Hamburg, and Lennon, the McCartney twins and Harrison survived, and Ringo was selected later. They were groomed, provided songs, their look, their venues and also their screaming fans. The whole thing was manufactured from the ground up. Sullivan that!
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I said Harrison did not have access to the songwriters provided McCartney and Lennon, and that should be obvious to you on its face. Harrison wrote hundreds of songs, but was allowed only one or two cuts on an album. In his own words, most of his early work was “shit.’ A friend and I each separately bought All things Must Pass, and each separately decided it was money wasted and tossed it. The praise it gets these days to me can only be power of suggestion … “he’s a Beatle, it must be good.” It isn’t.
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Wow!
Harsh Mark… and unwarranted I say. No one told me to like it.
Simplistic, maybe.
Beware of Darkness; nah I’ll just stop, we obviously differ on this one. A dozen on the first disk would make money today – if promoted – not a true measure of greatness, but this is the reason I previously questioned whether or not they were “his”.
DSKlausler
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I just recently read a review of it, and I do not remember where, maybe while traveling, that was overall a praise of the work with the warning that a portion of it is not very good. There were three records there, as if he were a bomb ready to explode with all his rejected work. But I will admit I did not give it a fair chance before chucking it.
[Blog owner edits his own comments: I must add, I found his Wilbury work to be top notch.]
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You know, I learned most of the Beatles fraud through this site (links), and Mark’s commentary.
Now, in total agreement, I still wonder about George, and his All Things Must Pass masterpiece. Was he still getting help a few years beyond the end of his tenure with the group? Did he have, or develop musicianship. I realize that performing live, he used a large collection of friends in the industry, but the core tunes… are they his?
Finally, I honestly do not care who or what wrote the Beatles music – I still love it. The deception and intended control bother me severely.
DSKlausler
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Learning from here could be problematic though.
For example -Contrary to what Mark and his article here states, songs from Rubber Soul and Revolver were played in public, the ones that didn’t need orchestration and the effects that they were using in the studio.
Mark, via Mike Williams, states that the songs were written in a short period of time after they came off their tour. Actually 6 songs were written well in advance, ‘Norwegian Wood’ for example was written in January on a skiing trip 10 months before entering the studio, something Williams fails to tell us despite all of his resources telling us this explicitly. The Beatles also had a full 6 week break before entering the studio for a month. Granted, Williams does tell us this but only 4 times compared to the 37 repetitions that they went straight into the studio after the tour and wrote all the songs in 30 days. Williams also neglects to tell us that two songs from Rubber Soul were from Harrison….quite some in depth ‘research’ from ‘The Sage’ there!
‘Deception’ and ‘intended control’ right enough.
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The music (including instrumentation) is indeed delightful, and all we need to know is that some anonymous people wrote the songs, true musicians played the instruments, and the Beatles merely sang them. I agree. Can I endure any more fawning over McCartney the genius? He knows we know, and he’s cool with it. He’s a hired hand doing his job. If not, he’d fake his own death.
Here’s another clue for you all: Some time after they retired from public performances [1985], “Lennon and McCartney” sold their songbook to Michael Jackson, for a song, so to speak. According to MM, Jackson was merely fronting for some monolith. According to me, this was the real songwriters threatening to go public unless they got a payday.
The fallout at the time was that L&M were young and naive, but it doesn’t wash. They were surrounded by sharp business people.
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Mike Williams may be flawed, but remember he showed old film interviews of Italian musicians talking about how the music from “Yesterday” and “Hey Jude” were taken(Stolen?) from the Italian neapolitan music of the 19th century! Jeez, that’s two of their biggest hits. Busted!
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Williams is a limited hangout, as I see it, in that he presents much of what is factual alongside the invented person Billy Shears, the latter done to hide the McCartney brothers being a set of twins.
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Yeah there’s plagiarism in the Beatles, especially Lennon’s history. Don’t forget Come Together was settled out of court when the publisher of Chuck Berry sued Lennon/Beatles.
The Beatles – John Lennon – Signed Deposition in Come Together Plagerism Lawsuit
Also, reinforcing my point about not hero-worshipping the Beatles, heres the story about how John Lennon was embarrassed on stage by Zappa then tried to cash in on the live recording by slapping his and Yoko’s name on it:
The song that John Lennon stole from Frank Zappa
If people wonder why I don’t have a love for the Beatles, it’s because I was born in 1970, year of their breakup, and by 1980 when I was interested in popular music the Beatles were totally passe. As in no one played the Beatles on the radio, or on their home stereos, they were considered old, stale, music. And Musak – that’s what we associated with Beatles music, the elevator music played in supermarkets. There were plenty of hippies still around, but they followed the Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, etc.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band_(film)
Do people remember when this film came out? Total flop. 1978, underscoring my point is the Beatles were rapidly becoming like Elvis or the Beach Boys. For maximum psychological shock and financial value of their catalog they decided to fake kill Lennon and call it an “assassination” as if he were Ghandi. Plus they were probably terrified of having to play live again someday so better to let Lennon retire and he can bask in the glow of his undeserved God like status.
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Two superb comments expressing my own verbally unformed suspicions, and thanks.
There’s more to come from this place, as YouTube right now features a number of Beatles reminisces, those featuring the players in strong definition and color even as supposedly more than fifty years old. I suspect much of this is in response to Mike Williams’s exposures, but then I regard him as nothing but a limited hangout, so I am faced with a contradiction. As Ayn Rand reminds us (I do not even admire the woman, far from it, but for this purpose she nailed it), there are no contradictions, only faulty premises.
I’ll finish up that piece, a fabrication of how three people, George Martin, John and Paul, constructed A Day In The Life, calling it the greatest (rock) song in history. Since I regard Beethoven’s Ninth as the greatest musical construction I’ve ever encountered, I refer to the video I’ll present as an insult to intelligent people.
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Looks like the Beatles police decided to show up.
I’ve let my feelings about the Beetles, a British infestation on the world be known here. Overrated, overpraised, a monster psyop. I remember being 10 and listening to the radio after John Lennon was “assassinated”. You’d think Jesus Christ was just crucified for Chrissakes.
The Lives of John Lennon – Wikipedia
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I’m pretty sure the Beetles are scumbags too in general, like Ringo playing a rapist in Candy.
Ringo Starr scenes from “Candy” 1968
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They made some good music no doubt, but don’t hold a candle to Pink Floyd for example. Or Yes, Frank Zappa, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton (Cream).
For the record some very esteemed musicians have said some pretty rough things about the Beatles, like Quincy Jones, and Bernard Purdie, one of the greatest drummers of all time, who has sworn he did a lot of Beatles tracks. Why would he claim this considering the Beatles are considered untouchables?
Bernard Purdie – Wikipedia
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I think Ringo was a heavy drinker before then, maybe didn’t show up.
[After he sobered up, he got very boring. My take anyway. Peace and love.]
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I have read Goldmans book on Lennon, it’s a hitpiece but interesting. What is striking is what he said about Lennons murder evidence being sealed. This is what Chatgtp says:
Summary:
In conclusion, anyone seeking the NYPD files on John Lennon’s murder today would find that they remain confidential, and public release would require formal legal or procedural actions.
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The logical person to initiate these legal proceedings would be … Lennon himself, perhaps Yoko Ono. Would they not be curious how this fake event was pulled off?
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There is a long multi part documentary about the Beatles directed by Peter Jackson from footage stored in a vault for 50 years. The images have been polished to a blinding shine by AI and I imagine given Jackson’s ability with special effects movies that they used something similar to what was used in James Cameron‘s Avatar movies- where we have four actors playing The Beatles in front of green screen with green body suits and then computer generated images were laid over them to move in real time just like the actors playing the aliens in Avatar. That would be my first guess about all this resurrected Beatles footage from half century ago. By the way Peter Jackson’s first hit was a fake documentary shown on New Zealand TV claiming that most of the syntax for motion pictures was created by a turn of the 20th century New Zealand filmmaker no one had ever heard of, and it caused such a stir in New Zealand that Jackson had to confess that he made the whole thing up.
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That hit was called Forgotten Silver, a mockumentary in 1995.
However his breakthrough was Heavenly Creatures in 1994 with Kate Winslet – a film i liked when i saw it yearsago – a “true” story about lesbian teenagers who murder one of their mothers. That’s looking more like a fake psyop in retrospect. A lot of unbelievable parts – also I think both women got out of jail fairly quickly.
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That’s exactly what I thought, no lie, when Mark was talking about how they could fake it – actors in bodysuits, green screen, digital Beatles overlaid on the actors, maybe with some cutting edge methods that haven’t been used in entertainment movies yet, a mix of AI and CGI or something to try to make it more convincing and naturalistic.
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I was watching the Bee Gees Documentary called “How to Mend a Broken Heart” and George Martin was interviewed about them and he made the statement something to effect and I’m paraprasing:
‘Their music was so good that it was almost like they didn’t write it themselves….’
That comment struck me as very odd knowing that he was heavily involved with the Beatles and the fact Beatles didn’t write their own stuff. And please don’t tell me the Bee Gees are manufactured or I’ll give up on music entirely as I still there a few heavily talented musicians/groups that were able to perform and make money for their music overloads. Talent is talent and hopefully a few were selected to share their talents with us 🙂
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I’ve heard the BeeGees play and sing at a very young age. They harmonized even then.
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