MM Mailing it in

On September 26 Miles W. Mathis linked us to a piece called 30 Facts You Need to Know: Your Covid Cribsheet. It is originally posted at OffGuardian. It is a nice little compendium of things that have been discussed here and elsewhere for months, but it is also troubling. Here are some of the 30 Facts:

1. The survival rate of “Covid” is over 99%. Government medical experts went out of their way to underline, from the beginning of the pandemic, that the vast majority of the population are not in any danger from Covid.

3. “Covid death” counts are artificially inflated. Countries around the globe have been defining a “Covid death” as a “death by any cause within 28/30/60 days of a positive test”. Removing any distinction between dying of Covid, and dying of something else after testing positive for Covid will naturally lead to over-counting of “Covid deaths”. British pathologist Dr John Lee was warning of this “substantial over-estimate” as early as last spring. Other mainstream sources have reported it, too.

8. Lockdowns do not prevent the spread of disease. There is little to no evidence lockdowns have any impact on limiting “Covid deaths”. If you compare regions that locked down to regions that did not, you can see no pattern at all.

13. The CT values of the PCR tests are too high. PCR tests are run in cycles, the number of cycles you use to get your result is known as your “cycle threshold” or CT value. Kary Mullis said: “If you have to go more than 40 cycles[…]there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.” … Dr Juliet Morrison, virologist at the University of California, Riverside, told the New York Times: Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive…I’m shocked that people would think that 40 [cycles] could represent a positive…A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35″.***

17. There is very little evidence supporting the alleged danger of “asymptomatic transmission”. In June 2020, Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said “From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” A meta-analysis of Covid studies, published by Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in December 2020, found that asymptomatic carriers had a less than 1% chance of infecting people within their household.

18. Ventilation is NOT a treatment for respiratory viruses. Mechanical ventilation is not, and never has been, recommended treatment for respiratory infection of any kind.

20. Masks don’t work. At least a dozen scientific studies have shown that masks do nothing to stop the spread of respiratory viruses. One meta-analysis published by the CDC in May 2020 found “no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks”. Another study with over 8000 subjects found masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.”

23. Covid “vaccines” are totally unprecedented. Before 2020 no successful vaccine against a human coronavirus had ever been developed.

*** #13 is especially insidious, implying as it does that there is a level of PCR testing that can accurately measure the presence of the never-isolated SARS-CoV-2 virus, that is, diagnose disease.

Of course, there is a great deal of useful information in the piece, but it is apparent that Kit Knightly, who assembled the 30 points, is convinced there is a virus, that there are deadly disease-causing viruses, and so is unknowingly (I hope) supporting the mythology being spread by the monsters behind the fake pandemic –

  • There is a virus,
  • Viruses cause disease,
  • Disease is contagious,
  • There are asymptomatic carriers.

That is counterproductive, and does not help us. What we need are people who, given that all the 30 points have some use, bravely assert that the whole of the pandemic is based not on wrongheaded science, but on absurdities. We cannot have any positive effect if we deal with the shysters as real people, only misguided. There are three possibilities with them:

  1. They are lying to us.
  2. They are stupid.
  3. They are both stupid and liars.

I see no other possibilities, though the term “brainwashed” could be applied en masse to the medical professions.

MM hit us again on September 29 with a Letter from Spartacus, again, not something he wrote or researched, but rather something he is passing along. The letter opens with nine summary points to be expounded on, four of which are:

  • COVID-19 is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs.
  • Existing countermeasures are inadequate to slow the spread of what is an aerosolized and potentially wastewater-borne virus, and constitute a form of medical theater.
  • The authorities have denied the usefulness of natural immunity against COVID-19, despite the fact that natural immunity confers protection against all of the virus’s proteins, and not just one.
  • Vaccines will do more harm than good. The antigen that these vaccines are based on, SARS-CoV- 2 Spike, is a toxic protein. SARS-CoV-2 may have ADE, or antibody-dependent enhancement; current antibodies may not neutralize future strains, but instead help them infect immune cells. Also, vaccinating during a pandemic with a leaky vaccine removes the evolutionary pressure for a virus to become less lethal.

Again, the presumption behind the writing here is that SARS-CoV-2 is a real thing, that viruses are real, cause disease, and are contagious. This is not helping!

We need to advance the idea that the science behind the pandemic should not be tossed aside lightly, but rather thrown with great force. MM needs to bone up a little on this stuff. He’s way behind.

53 thoughts on “MM Mailing it in

  1. Spot on, Mark. The existence and transmission of “viruses” is the equivalent of the fake death in steering the narratives. They’re both huge roadblocks to our real understanding of what’s going on. Very few ‘truthers’ are willing to go there, so rendering it difficult to separate the gatekeeper ‘truthers’ from the useful truthing idiots. Trust the science, trust the MSM in certain circumstances…


  2. You seem to take it for granted that others understand your views on the non-existence of viruses, but I don’t, and I’ve been reading this blog for months. Can you please explain your position, or perhaps point me somewhere. I’m unfamiliar with this idea.


      1. I have a question which will probably sound stupid to someone who has studied these things in depth, but i must ask because i intuitively and experiencedly know that only a weak and injured body gets sick . I mean that i understand perfectly that germs and bacteria only respond to a weak “terrain” , a term i learned in my very precursory research.
        But my question is: how do we coordinate this with the fact that there are substances that if ingested will make you sick? I am not talking of poison; but rather say for example shit from my farm animals? I do not make my children wash their hands before eating because alittle dirt will not hurt anyone, but if they have accidentally got alpaca or chicken shit on their hands.. they have to wash of course…. So what am i missing here? It is the terrain yes, but there are dirty substances that can infect you no?


        1. hummm…maybe by asking i have realized my answer: shit is a “poisons” since one living things poison is another living things nectar?


        2. I doubt that a “little” chicken or alpaca shit on the unwashed hand would make one sick. A few spoonfuls, or a bowl full, yes. And if so, what is the toxic effect? Food poisoning, in effect, if the s*** is loaded with bacteria, and the abundance of bacterial waste is toxic….or, an actual toxic element(s) being eliminated by the critter.


    1. A crux of the matter appears to me to center around the 1954 Nobel Prize. You would have to free your self from the notion, if you have it, that Nobel Prizes are free of corrupt influences. That year John Franklin Enders won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for isolation of the measles virus. Ever since, virology has been glowing with the faint light of Nobel.

      But he did not isolate anything. He conjured up a chicken noodle soup of ingredients, including tissue from a sick kid suffering measles, starved it, introduced antibiotics, and then watched to see if monkey kidney cells died (my details could be mistaken), When there was cytopathy, or cell death, he said it was due to the virus that came from the kid with measles. Enders did something, however, that modern virologists do not do – he ran a negative control experiment aside the one with real tissue from the sick kid. The result was identical – cytopathy! He had proven nothing, isolated nothing, yet was awarded a Nobel. Why? I suspect influence of the Rockefeller Foundation, which needed viruses to exist to support the pharmaceutical and oil industries. (Most prescription drugs are petroleum-based, I am told.)

      That’s a start, and I cannot lay out everything here. Bacteria are real, but generally do not cause disease. They feed on dead and dying tissue, not healthy tissue. But viruses, and virologists to this day use the Enders method, have never been isolated or shown to cause disease, or in my mind, to even exist.

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  3. The Spartacus paper, like most other “opposition” articles, sells the virus strongly, not just with the gain of function nonsense (or the bat from a wet market), but also with all the detail concerning the disease it supposedly causes.

    The gain of function story was a planned part of the psyop script, a second virus origin story, all dressed up to complement the 120 year old virus story already firmly established in almost everyone’s mind. It gave bad guy Fauci (and others) even bigger villain status, real cartoon characters for Joe Public to hate on, but Joe would still be subject to the rule of virus regardless.

    Consider how this new script unfolded. Someone somewhere (Langley or equivalent) feeds this new story to the MSM and alternative press, and it quickly goes “viral”. All the alt outlets are hot for it. And then, to make it seem legit to the growing conspiracy crowd, Facebook steps in and bans any mention of it!, just like many of the anti-virus or anti-vax comments, and like the banning of videos on Youtube. So now, all the alt people KNOW (because they’re being persecuted by the MSM) that Fauci and Daszak, etc., were really doing all this dirty work in Wuhan (or wherever), and that they are responsible for this terrible pandemic.

    What next? After a suitable period of time, Facebook does an about-face, and says “well ok, you can talk about the gain of function / lab grown virus. Maybe there’s more to the story than we thought”.

    The creators of this narrative have graciously offered us two choices, and are in effect saying, “You can believe the virus came from a wet market bat or civet or pig…or you can believe it came from the cauldron in Fauci’s Wuhan lab. It doesn’t matter to us, as long as you believe.”

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    1. Drives me absolutely nuts how people don’t get the multi-stream propaganda. The “Wuhan lab” nonsense is just like the 9/11 “Israel-dun-it”, “Jews-were-told-to-stay-home”, “Dancing Israelis” nonsense. Even when I believed some of the Israel propaganda I did wonder how people could believe Israel was entirely responsible as if they would come in under the US government’s nose and do it all by themselves. It’s so easy to target people’s prejudices.


    2. @OregonMatt It reminds me of the misdirection surrounding political elections, such as the ones in the United States. They love to spin stories of elections being “rigged” in favor of one candidate over another, and that the people’s voice is being stifled in the process, because they give false credibility to the whole process, thus fooling people into believing it is of serious importance that needs to be taken wholeheartedly. Such propaganda blinds the sheeple from realizing that the whole electoral process is an absolute sham from start-to-finish, a scripted reality TV show, and all the running candidates are actors pretending to be against each other, but really are working for the same team.

      One example of this false dichotomy, in relation to American politics and fake medicine, is the staged roasting “Dr.” Fauci received from Sen. Rand Paul over his role in the early beginnings of the so-called Coronavirus pandemic in a recent congressional hearing.


  4. Most OffGuardian readers recognise no virus and say so vehemently in the comments – including me who said it from Day One before the science. I knew as soon as they showed us people falling flat on their faces and laid out on the ground and hospital floors that it was a psyop and we know that in psyops they only do for real what they want for real and fake the rest. They only want us to believe in a virus not have one and a virus wouldn’t work for their narrative in any shape or form. They obviously wanted to start in Wuhan jump over to Bergamo and then go onto the cruise ships and wherever else and there was no way in the world that you could control a virus to behave in that way – if there’s really any way to control a virus at all in terms of spreading it. But it’s so very much about mind control and smoke’n’mirrors propaganda and making us believe things without doing them for real. Even if they could have manufactured a virus and controlled it, they wouldn’t use that way of doing it, that’s not psyop MO.

    Two of the most pertinent quotes in relation to psyops in my opinion are these two:

    “The purpose of propaganda is not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponds to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.”

    Edited (“communist propaganda” simply changed to “propaganda”) quote from Theodore Dalrymple, aka Anthony Daniels, British psychiatrist.

    ​”The official story required either that one descended into total intellectual senility in order to still believe it – perhaps deliberately made ridiculous for that very purpose – or else that one keep one’s intellect alive but destroy almost everything that one had previously believed about how society works.”
    Gerard Holmgren

    Gerard was a pioneering Australian 9/11 researcher who died in 2010 from a brain tumor. His quote would have been slightly different had he realised that death and injury were staged. Gerard wrote a funny satirical piece on 9/11, Debunking Conspiracy Theorists which you can read on this page

    Also, OffG have published at least two excellent articles that say no virus quite clearly so I’m not sure why Kit keeps on with acting as if there is one.

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      1. Yes I didn’t think you were “moderating” me Mark unlike on OffG where I am partly censored which makes a complete mockery of their ethos. They used to run a column calling out The Guardian’s censorship of comments but obviously they can’t do that now.

        They’ve run a number of short talks given by people on 9/11 none of which of course say anything about staged death and injury. One talk is by an alleged mother, Cindy Sheehan, of a US soldier, Casey, who died in Iraq. I thought I’d check out Casey and I found two alleged unsent letters he wrote to his family. The letters were completely unconvincing and had psyop fingerprints all over them so I wrote a long comment first talking about controlled opposition in general followed by a detailed analysis of the letters. I also put a link to an exchange I had myself with an alleged Veteran For Peace, Vince Emanuele, where I called him out.

        They didn’t publish my comment however after I’d written my comment I realised that I hadn’t noticed there was an anomaly in his plane from Texas to Kuwait refuelling in Ireland where there are no US air bases instead of say in England where there are numerous US bases. I pasted the letter and simply asked the question if anyone could explain why Casey’s plane would have refueled in Ireland rather than England. No answer. They published that comment.

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          1. It’s documented that Cindy’s father worked for Lockheed Corporation, involved in manufacturing military aircraft, until it went defunct in 1995 and merged into Lockheed Martin. In the 1920s and 30s, Amelia Earhart flown their planes. The company was also involved in various bribery scandals later on.



            Sheehan’s birthplace – Inglewood, CA – houses or is near to many military bases, including Los Angeles Air Force Base and National Guard Armory South Bay Cities. So it already looks like she came from a spook family with connections to military intel, and they simply inserted her into the anti-war movement to mislead it.


            Oh, and this part of her bio is rich: after her son “died” in combat in 2004, she went on to join the anti-war movement immediately. Initially, she was rather cordial towards Bush, saying that he’s “sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis. I know [he] feels pain for our loss. And I know he’s a man of God.” (Then why even protest the war if you felt that he was “sincere” about his convictions? Slight of hand?) But on other occasions, she accused him of lying, stating that “We haven’t been happy with the way the war has been handled. The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached.” So she’s been flip-flopping on her position about the Iraq “war”.


            And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There’s still much more to uncover about her.

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            1. Interesting. I didn’t look too closely, just knew that it had to be a psyop because of the “unsent” letters being ridiculous but I did notice the Lockheed connection and that there did seem something flip-floppy about her attitude to Bush as you point out.


              1. Correct. And for those who are into the genealogy, it’s also obvious that she’s Jewish. She was born a Miller and her married name is a Sheehan. Miller is a Jewish name in America, and Sheehan is Gaelic for “peaceful” (how appropriate, eh?)

                “Miller is also the third most common surname among Jews in the United States (after Cohen and Levy), from the Yiddish cognate of Müller, which would be Miller (מיללער) or Milner11.”


                “The original Gaelic form of the name Sheehan is O Siodhachain, which may be derived from “siodhach,” which means “peaceful.””


                And, more importantly, Ireland has a rich Jewish/Phoenician/Ca’ananite history behind it, going back to the Norman conquests and much earlier. The dove is one of the important religious symbols of Hebrew culture, for it represents the people of ancient Israel in Jewish teachings. That, IMO, indicates the Sheehan name likely has Hebraic roots.

                “The dove is also a symbol of the people Israel (Song of Songs Rabbah 2:14), an image frequently repeated in Midrash.”


                “…. a plethora of books by leading historians has documented “the Phoenician origin” of Western civilization. Historians have given the Phoenicians most of the credit for this emigration from Palestine to Europe, although the Hebrews were more numerous, and were Divinely promised greatly increased numbers. Perhaps the answer to the confusion is that the Hebrew language is a Phoenician dialect, and the two are virtually identical. But as we will see, a great multitude of the “Phoenician” speaking early European colonists can be shown to be Hebrew. …. In the 18th century, historians discovered exciting proof of Phoenician-Celtic ties. …. linguists noticed the great similarity between that Phoenician and the early Irish Celtic language. …. Vallancey, for instance, speaks of, “The great affinity found in many words, nay whole lines and sentences of this speech, between the Punic [Phoenician] and the Irish.” ….”


                History of the Jews in Ireland (1079 – present):


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                1. Some may ask why I mention the dove in this story. The primary reason is because the dove is sported on the Sheehan family crest. It’s pictured holding a tree branch with green leaves and standing on a grass pasture in front of a blue background. Coat-of-arms, much like family names, can be counted on as clues pertaining to the origins or lineage of a famous individual. Signs and symbols, after all, rule the world… or so they say.


      2. They were good links though. And I find it interesting how an alternative media outlet spreads multiple contradictory stories at once. Check the evidence also fits this bill but there are many others.


      1. The only thing with Ian though, Stephers, is that he doesn’t say there’s no virus as far as I’m aware.

        The two people whose videos I put links to below don’t either but I don’t hold it against them because it’s really not necessary for what they say and I guess we do have to consider that the believers have so much trouble with the essential truth being nothing, nada, niente … except, of course, in relation to the test and jab.

        Here is a great litany of Australian medical staff testimony of jab adverse effects sent by a naturopath I subscribe to – interestingly the staff seem to be mostly in the nursing/admin area and not doctors. Why doesn’t that surprise me?

        This interview with professor of clinical psychology, Mattias Desmet, is INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. It provides an understanding of why when you try to use evidence with people they simply will not respond rationally – it’s due to the phenomenon of “mass formation” which is referred to by others as “mass psychosis”. You can also read an interview with Mattias here: (insert “html://” at beginning of link to view)

        A clinical hypnotherapist analyses the messages we are inundated with 24/7.


  5. Interesting choice of nickname, Spartacus.
    So this is a fight against the Romans who, it is claimed elsewhere, gave the world the aqueduct, education, sanitation, public order etc … and, very importantly – public health.
    Perhaps Spartacus could have saved us all from trying our best to look on the bright side of life the past 18 odd months by just scribbling: Romani Ite Domun.


  6. Love the title, Mark.

    This is a little off topic but 9/11 is never really off topic is it? – it certainly isn’t for me as everyone who knows me knows.

    So I keep thinking I understand the basics of 9/11 and then I realise I don’t.

    An article was written by one of the OffG editors, Catte Black, entitled the Myth of the “infallible” elite prompted by my continual yapping about how they always tell us “revelation of the method”/”hidden in plain sight” style. When I first learnt of this part of the MO 2 years into my study of psyops it became the lens through which I always look at psyops. Catte strawmanned me by saying that I think the perps are infallible and therefore any mistake would have to be deliberate which I’ve never said. My point would be that it doesn’t matter whether the screw up is deliberate or accidental they get away with it because of the nature of power. And while conceivably the pre-announcement of wtc 7’s collapse could be a genuine slip-up the press conference called by the terrorists after the event to say they were still alive and Hani Hanjour’s flight instructor saying he used to cry when asked to attempt steep turns and stalls could never be genuine slip-ups – plus so many more. Actually come to think of it the pre-announcement couldn’t have been a genuine slip-up because there were a number of pre-announcements.

    This strawman argument got me thinking though and and got me focused on how the basic narrative is so preposterous of itself regardless of any gratuitous anomalies. For their terror event they could have just had planes into the twin towers but – no – they over-egged the omelette by having a passenger airliner plough into Defence Headquarters. It is so beyond conceivable.

    The effrontery. They tell their citizens and the rest of the world that terrorists managed a monumental attack on the most militarised country on earth with zero sense of shame at all the taxpayers’ money completely useless in the face of a bunch of ragtag terrorists.

    Over time, the effort on “9/11 truth” has been deliberately moved to focus on the buildings when it should be about the planes. Wtc 7 is not an accidental smoking gun, it’s a deliberate smoking gun. Its purpose is to move the attention away from the much more revealing planes.

    — The airliners expose the supposedly massive failure in defence which is simply impossible, as impossible in reality as the breaking of Newton’s Laws of Motion. The buildings don’t really do that.

    — Faked planes automatically means faked passengers meaning faked deaths which is a slippery slope to questioning all death and injury. It doesn’t work the other way of course. They don’t want any questioning of death and injury.

    — If the planes were faked no need to spend a second on the buildings because obviously the buildings had to have come down by controlled demolition if there were no planes.

    It is interesting to note that the Pilots for 9/11 Truth website recently went defunct while Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth is going gangbusters. There’s one pilots website whose argument seems to be that Muslim terrorists couldn’t have piloted the planes which is obviously the wrong focus because there simply were no planes.

    Defunct –
    Archive –
    Couldn’t have been Muslim terrorists –

    I’ve emailed Dan Hanley at the Couldn’t-have -been-Muslim terrorists website and asked him why he’s not focusing on the fundamental truth of no planes and I haven’t received a reply on that.

    I’ve also emailed Dave Meiswinkle whose position as Executive of the board of the obviously bogus Lawyers Committee for 9/11 Inquiry wasn’t renewed (it seems he has been replaced by Richard Gage who was booted off his board) and challenged him about staged death and injury. I’m assuming that even though these two organisations are bogus that some people are genuine and possibly Dave is as is possibly Richard Gage although I doubt it. It will be interesting to see if I get a response from Dave.

    It would actually be quite easy to expose how death and injury are staged. Simply ask these alleged truth or organisations for proof of Bob McIlvaine being Bobby’s father etc.


    1. “So I keep thinking I understand the basics of 9/11 and then I realise I don’t.”

      Petra Liverani, are you familiar with the work of Phil Jayhan and Larry McWilliams? They’ve pretty much solved the entire 9/11 puzzle.

      ((( Since I’ve vamped up my account to include a photo, I have to log into WordPress each time I post a comment (okay, no big deal) and then my comment gets put into moderation from which it may or may not be released … although I strive to never post anything nasty or sloppy or inconsiderate or impolite. I assume there is a technical reason and the issue can be fixed. )))

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      1. Oh dear, I’ve done it again. Pls, Mark, can you change the reddit link to the interview with Mattias Desmet and remove the http:// at the beginning so the whole interview is not embedded.


      2. I’ve linked to The 9/11 Firemen’s Reference Guide on my website in the Let’s Roll Forums which unfortunately disappeared so I had to refind the link on the wayback machine.

        But I haven’t looked around the site us much as I could have – there’s certainly a wealth of information there.

        What concerns me is the phoney legal case that is going to be made.

        No one – as far as I know – is saying that WTC-7 is a decoy – it was showcased in anticipation of the disbelievers of the nonsense story to focus their minds but it’s obviously not where the focus should be.

        To my mind, it’s all about the airliners, not the buildings as I say above.


        1. Yes, the old LRF has to be accessed via Wayback as it went down in late February. Yes, there is a wealth of information, and 9/11 is unveiled there.

          If I read you correctly you’re saying that “there simply were no planes”, which is correct. The main thing is the twin tower buildings, not WTC 7 or the airplane stories.


          1. Would love to discuss what’s the most important, Michael, and why you think twin towers rather than airliners but I’ve compromised my health spending too much time on computer so will give it a break. Maybe later.


  7. Yeah, Miles ought to bone up a little on this issue. There’s been some pushback at CTTF, but in replies, he was saying only “I have my reasons”, and wasn’t discussing them. Saying, it would be counterproductive as “they” are reading such discussion.

    On one hand, he’s right – the Spartacus paper is about rejecting the jab and points to fascism, regardless of the virus myth. The paper is addressing the idea of standing up for our rights. That’s good, right?

    On the other hand, it’s selling the virus myth as real. I agree with Mark here on the point that large majority of people are thoroughly brainwashed on the this topic. But of all people, I think Miles is definitely smart enough to dive into this myth and see right through it. For now, he chose not to and never explained why, except for the “I have my reasons…” phrase.

    I don’t see this as any spook marker, though. I’ve quite a few people in my social circle, who are aware of many myths, but are not prepared to consider the germ theory is false. I personally talked to a few MDs about this subject, and it’s the same. None of them heard of Bechamp or any other pleomorphist author, nor the terrain theory. They’re blind to being fooled, but hey, welcome to this world.


  8. MM knows he’s promoting controlled opposition but has reasons he can’t go into because “they” are watching. Really?
    Does he think his readers need to read propaganda pushing the virus as real to convince them not to take the jab?
    Josh on CTTF says he thinks the virus real and has posted science papers on his forum that he claims prove the existence of the Sars cov 1 virus.

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    1. isn’t the bottom line this:
      normal seasonal flu has simply disappeared?
      doesn’t that mean that the corona virus is nothing but the flu?
      As for germ theory and terrain theory, how are they mutually exclusive?
      Can a terrain be compromised if there were no such thing as germs…i e things that can make you sick if the terrain is weak?
      these are not rhetorical questions…i have never really looked into this issue.


      1. There are things that can make you sick including hammers,plants,air,guns and even sadness. That does not mean contagious pathogenic invisible magic viruses exist. Nor gnomes elves or fairies. When some one says terrain theory or germ theory they are massive oversimplifications. What they generally mean is that either invisible magic pathogenic contagious viruses are real (cos the people selling them say so despite all evidence to the contrary) and cause disease or they are a fiction. That does not mean they don’t believe poisons are poisonous.

        Not dissimilar to the Christian or Darwin grouping. Just because I don’t believe in magic Jesus does not mean I believe in the ridiculousness of Darwins theory of evolution. And just because I don’t believe in Darwins bs doesn’t mean I don’t believe in evolution (mostly through cross breading and back breading as we see around us every day).

        Short comments are not the best way to get points across. Hours and decades of Face (auto correct tried to put in Facebook here I found it very funny) to face conversations with lots of research and thought in between is how it could be done better.


    2. So they followed the viral outbreaks from Wuhan to Bergamo to the Ruby Princess, etc?

      This pandemic is clearly a psyop and a real virus won’t work for it – very, very simple.

      “Following” is not a thing in a psyop, a psyop is a 100% controlled narrative.


    3. That Josh’s attempt was also refuted. SARS being real is in all terms equal to SARS-Cov2 being real – and pushed to reality by the same breed of deluded virologists. The debate which followed almost made all the germ theory opponents there banned or their comments moderated before publishing. So to solve the issue and division, Josh allowed the discussion in a separate thread. So yeah, the germ theory is causing a LOT of cognitive dissonance even among the sharpest thinkers… In my opinion, it’s not an issue of being a spook or whatever, but an issue of being brainwashed for decades.

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      1. It could be a bit of both on different occasions. But I get how hard it is to get brainwashing out. After all do we even genuinely have free will or are we just a product of our environment. There is no way I could ever get my Mother for example to even consider the possibility of a fake terror attack. Yes including the ones admitted to and filmed. Now she has no attachment to the field she just does not want to have to reassess her positions and admit she is wrong.

        Now imagine being in the vaccine field at a university and having spent a decade pushing back at vaccination and it’s dangers and ineffectiveness. If you admit viruses are fiction all of that work you have done is based on bs. Your entire last decade was spent researching unicorns. All of your anti Vax arguments are compromised. All you had to do was read the proof of virus experiments and go oh well they aren’t real so vaccines aren’t either. Like the 911 planes I guess. If the planes aren’t real well….


  9. glad to see that more and more people understand the entire absurdity of modern medicine now. A few years ago only very few people dared to question medicine and even they didn’t go very far. People think it’s scientific because media keep telling them it’s science but it’s just Voodoo.

    something fun for you:

    MM sells vitamins, which are poison and not good for anything. Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is a bacteria killer and does not exist in nature. No supplement does what it promises. Vitamins are as fake as any super food or any magic cure. It’s always just your body which has to repair any damage you associate with sickness and no chemical substance can be of any help.


  10. MM jumped the shark. If anyone other than himself were to post about Spartacus, Tucker or Alex Jones, he would out them as a “spook.”
    That term is used too often at CTTF.


    1. He also has double standards. He dismisses the fact he got married on October 8 by saying ‘since the bride chooses the wedding date, I don’t see how that is pertinent.’ I couldn’t care less when he got married, or about numerology in general, but in any of his papers that ‘marker’ would be highlighted and followed by the phrase ‘Aces and eights. Chai.’ And that person would be instantly outed as an agent in his estimation.

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      1. He “outted” me also, announced “his name is not Greg and he’s not from Mass.” He’s not always right and can’t accept when he’s wrong. I’ve definitely picked up some researching skills reading his earlier papers, but I don’t read them anymore.

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        1. I have exactly the same.

          I am thankful for everything I have learned from him, put on that path by CF & aLOUD. members seneca and farcevalue, and especially the historical context, the Not So Hidden Jiddish Hand, and more.

          But I also couldn’t stomach those jumps he made in his speculative jenga his later “papers” became.

          If he believes in the Myth of the Invisible Monster, he is at least consistent in jumping in half way into a rabbit hole and digging his own version of it.

          He lost me with his overtly ridiculous pi=4 “paper” (no Miles, pi is a constant and never 4,if there is a factor added in motion you have to choose a new symbol, not rape pi for your own misguided jenga,

          He based his idea on a remark of one of the very biggest and most obvious carnies out there; Wernher von fecking Braun, not pausing for one second and seeing through the space travel hoax.

          One of his groupies, Jared Magneson, over at CTTF is very …. let’s say passionate, to keep that myth alive.

          Good to know that Josh and Miles are useful covidiots. I like clarity.


  11. Tom Cowan said it best (1:05): “I’m tired of viruses. There is only so much you can talk about garbage. It’s all garbage”


  12. Wow! Mathis has gone sideways on this whole Rittenhouse nonsense. He still will not admit that both prosecution and defense, victims and defendant, are all high-level Freemasons. You saw the the hand signals from beginning to end. Is Miles willfully ignorant about Freemasonry, although quite well-versed in the Peerage and Anglicisms. Odd, no?


    1. I doubt at their ages the victims and Kyle are high level free masons. It takes a long time to achieve certain degrees. Although they may belong to the Lodge at the lower levels, there are other fraternity organizations involved in those types of shenanigans besides freemasonry. Miles did show the connection to the usual peerage groups. While everyone’s eyeballs were on the Kyle trial last week, the House of Representatives passed President Joe Biden’s $2 trillion Build Back Better Bill. Maybe we will all get another stimmy check to help pay for those marked up consumer goods and gas prices.


  13. I agree, Greg. Judge Schroeder was most certainly a high-level Freemason. Did no one notice the tessellated floor in the court room? Is no one willing to admit that our justice system is run by Freemasons and, by extension, our entire Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches? Miles has always flopped on the Freemason question. Given his obsession with the Peerage and the absurd mythos of the Phoenician Navy, he completely overlooks the Freemasons. Hiram Abif, the central figure of the Freemasonic pantheon, was Phoenician. And one might argue that Solomon, the other most central figure in the Freemasonic pantheon, is also Phoenician, but Miles never talks about any of this. Never once in all of his papers does he mention the Ancient and Accepted Rite? Makes me think he’s a big fat phony, although he elucidates very deep truths about our current reality. I just don’t get it.


  14. Read Miles for years. He’s smart–very smart. In fact, smartest writer and thinker in the last 30 years. There’s no question on that point. So how can a man of his brilliance not make the ineluctable connection, the great historical secret, that Freemasons have run the world since time immemorial at this point. Not your local Blue Lodges, but the ancient orders. His paper on Bernard Shaw and Annie Besant fell quite short. MacGregor Mathers, Aleister Crowley, the Golden Dawn, Helena Blavatsky. No mention of any of them. And certainly no mention of them as connected to the most elite and most secretive of the Scottish Rite order. Why? Because Mathis is doing something clandestine and nefarious. That’s the only explanation. Miles, you are free to come here and debate me in this very thread. But you will not. Nor shall you ever. I’m smarter than you, more deeply researched, and hold the established order in more vicious contempt than you. Come here and speak to me like a man.


  15. So again, I’m here to remind you that Miles Mathis is hiding the truth. Just finished his paper on Natalie Wood. Why does he not mention that all European nobility are members of the highest orders of the Ancient and Accepted Rite? Is this purposeful misdirection, or simply ignorance? A man of his knowledge just simply cannot overlook this obvious truth–and it is a truth, well-known to those who know. Miles would have you believe that Phoenician Merchants from 8000 BC are the men behind the curtain. But that preposterous hypothesis overlooks some pretty obvious and basic facts. Since the Crusades when the ancient orders realigned and the true rulers of the Medieval world created the Old World Order, royalty and nobility and papacy ruled the masses. However that power held little poignancy without the secrecy of the Knighthood orders, who were the military power of that age and whose military power still well extends into this age. Secrecy was their defense against royalty and papacy. These were the Freemasons, not the fucking Phoenicians, although the orders might’ve been indirectly influenced by ancient Phoenician religious rites. So why does Miles Mathis nakedly exclude any association between the Nobility (i.e Peerage for all you laymen) and the ancient Knighthood orders which most likely run our Energy Industry and our Military Industrial Complex today (just look at Exxon Mobil’s Rosicrucian Cross)? Why does he not make the obvious connection between both? And why does Miles belabor us with meaningless Hollywood celebrities, and not the true enemies: Corporations, Military Industrial Complex, and the Banking Cartels? When will he start listing the lineages of those people? My guess is never. He tells us all these celebrities have been put in place to distract us from the true culprits, but he hasn’t yet named one true culprit currently perpetrating these vast depredations against us. If you are listening, Miles, stop showing us vapid and vacuous celebrity lineages, and expose the genealogies of the real thieves currently in Washington D.C., the Military Industrial Complex, the Corporate World Banks. Stop covering for them. Expose them for the secret Freemasonic societies they hide behind. Why haven’t you exposed the Freemasons and the Military Industrial Complex, and feed us the rotten fodder of celebrity? My guess is that is your job, and you’re damn good at it!

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  16. And as always, we’re always left to pay the price for their lies and destruction in one way or another. Going further back in history, the American people were embezzled of billions of tax dollars for the production of the flu vaccines during the manufactured H1N1 outbreak from 2009-10. They made lucrative contracts with the United States corporation for the production and distribution of these inoculations.

    And to add further insult to injury, many of the overpriced drugs people take were also funded with tax dollars through public agencies like the NIH and the NHS. Not only that, but Congress refused numerous times to allow drug price negotiations for those on social welfare programs like Medicare and Medicaid, which is very telling considering that they hold lucrative investments in Big Pharma that makes them fabulously wealthy.

    That also includes “public servants” who pretend to fight against medical giants like Pfizer, such as Rep. Joe Kennedy III of that infamous clan.

    “On the campaign trail, Rep. Joe Kennedy III (D-Mass.) casts himself as a fighter who takes on big pharma. His disclosure shows he’s profited from rising drug prices. Last year, he reported owning up to $2.1 million in stock in pharmaceutical and health products companies in a family trust. Those include industry giants such as Johnson & Johnson, Merck, Abbott Laboratories, Eli Lilly & Co and Pfizer.”

    And just like the present Coronavirus scam, as VP, “Joe Biden” also managed the staged crisis, albeit behind the scenes. He also played a role in the Ebola scam, which was a cover for public handouts to vaccine manufacturers.

    “Obama asked Biden, who already served as the administration’s unofficial liaison to the Senate, to meet with congressional leaders to lobby for nearly $9 billion.

    ““During the meeting, something came up, someone tapped Obama on his shoulder and he had to leave,” recalled then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). “Biden wound up running the meeting and making the case for more money. From that point forward, he basically took over on the swine flu deal.”

    “The supplemental funding bill came through, to the tune of nearly $8 billion.”

    On the Ebola response, Politico says thus:

    “Once again, Biden served as a conduit to Congress, helping push through $5.4 billion in emergency funds. This was a tougher task than during H1N1. The House was under Republican control, and much of the Ebola money was heading overseas, to help contain the virus in Africa.”

    In early December 2019, weeks before the start of the Coronavirus “pandemic”, the taxpayer-funded vaccine group GAVI (also one of the doners to the Gates Foundation, btw) pledged almost $180 million to producing the Ebola vaccine for distribution to developing nations, which are “free of charge” to the recipients. Convenient, eh?

    And just like the Coronavirus vaccines, both the H1N1 and Ebola inoculations come with complications that do cause adverse reactions to some who receive them, although they usually mislead us into believing that they are “rare”, which is actually because they are rarely reported after injections, as one public health agency admits, not because the severe side effects are actually rare.

    “A sharp increase in the number of narcolepsy diagnoses in children was noticed shortly after immunization campaigns for the pandemic 2009 H1N1 vaccines in Finland and Sweden. Subsequent analysis confirmed an association between the European AS03-adjuvanted pandemic 2009 H1N1 vaccine (PandemrixTM) and narcolepsy onset in several northern European countries. Immunization with this vaccine is thus no longer recommended in children [1-3].”

    “Among the 15,399 adult subjects vaccinated with rVSVΔG-ZEBOV-GP (the name used for the vaccine pre-licensure) during the clinical development of the vaccine, there were two reports of serious vaccine-related pyrexia and two reports of non-fatal anaphylaxis. …. Vaccination with ERVEBO may not protect all individuals. Its safety and effectiveness have not been assessed in immunocompromised individuals. The vaccine may be less effective in immunocompromised individuals.”

    “Adverse events from vaccines are common but underreported, with less than one percent reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Low reporting rates preclude or delay the identification of “problem” vaccines, potentially endangering the health of the public.”

    It’s a massive scam from start to finish, and the masses are paying for their stupidity and complacency to sell themselves out. We had it coming.


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