Mike Williams, Sage of Quay … limited hangout?

I was listening to an audio yesterday given by Mike Williams, Sage of Quay, and thought I might, while following his guidelines for commenting, introduce his followers to the idea that “Paul” McCartney is two people, Mike and Paul, and that Mike is not “Mike McGear”, supposedly Paul’s brother. I spent a little time on it, not worth repeating here, and closed by suggesting that readers see a performance of the song Till There was You at the Prince of Wales Theater on November 4, 1963, sung by original Paul. I also suggested that they watch the 1984 movie Give My Regards to Broad Street where the two twins are easily seen to be both identical and easy to tell apart. If worse comes to worse, read my post, Sir Faul. (I did not put that link in, as it would be self-promotion, not allowed.)

After I realized my comment would not appear, I was angry. It’s that old feeling that comes with being banned, that the people who do so are usually less intelligent than those attempting to post on their sites. It’s an expression of power, and my goodness, do people enjoy having power over others.

But the truth is, I simply forgot I was banned there. There’s no good reason for that other than I offer information he does not want discussed on his site. In fact, AB at Fakeologist offered to interview both Mike and I, and Mike said it would only happen if the idea of twins was not broached.

Then I settled down, and even decided to be proactive about it. After all, it’s his website, and he can do as he pleases with it, discussing any topic and banning anyone he pleases. It so happens I am not a banning-type person, that is, I have done it but always regretted and relented except in the case of one guy who posted a photo of one man licking the ass of another. Further, Williams has done very good work, despite his obsession with the nonexistent Billy Shears … work that I could not have done. Here are a few things I have learned from him:

  • On the 1965 album Rubber Soul,  the Beatles had 30 days to compose 14 songs (which ended up being 13 plus an old one). That meant that they had to compose the songs, arrange them rehearse them, and perform them in that brief time. No way was that possible.
  • McCartney claimed that they did not compose between albums, that they worked under deadlines for albums and movies, producing songs in bunches. So they had to do the whole album in 30 days.
  • That time frame also including cover and jacket design, order of play, stamping and transportation to record stores.

Mike’s conclusion: The four band members neither composed the songs nor played the instruments on the album. George Martin supervised other songwriters and session musicians so that it was all done by the time they showed up. The boys merely did the vocals.

In that sense, they were much like so many other bands of the era (and now), just a vocal group. That would include the Beach Boys, their American counterpart, along with the Monkees, who openly admitted to the fact. In my view, Rubber Soul offers a framework for all of the Beatles music, start to finish. Mike claims the White Album was their original work.

Other things I have learned from Mike:

  • Drummer Bernard Purdie claims to have overdubbed 21 Beatles songs. Ringo was just not that good.
  • The 60s performer Donovan claimed that the Beatles were backed by a “genius song writer,” and we are left to guess who it wasn’t: Paul or John or George. When asked to expand on the matter, he deferred, saying he had said all he could or would say.
  • George was not present for the Sgt. Pepper recordings. (Were any of them?)
  • Paul claimed that George never practiced.
  • Paul and John admitted in an early press conference that they were not musically talented.
  • Richard Lester had a hard time finishing the movie Help! because the boys were high by noon, and could neither read nor memorize their lines.

That is all very good work. I give Mike Williams full credit for it. But I’ve something to add:

  • Paul and Mike McCartney are now 81 years old. If “Macca” is still performing, he is being ghosted and voice tracks are being used.
  • John Lennon is now 83 years old, and yes, I imagine he is still alive.
  • George Harrison is dead. For sure. [Maybe not. See comments below.]
  • Ringo Starr … ah, who gives a shit? Peace and love.
  • The group first performed on the Ed Sullivan Show 60 years ago.
  • Sgt. Pepper was released 58 years ago.

In other words, it is all ancient history. True, the people behind the band have done their best to make sure that each succeeding generation is aware of them, so they still have a large following. But their music would not play today, as musical styles have changed radically. It’s Boomer fare.

Time to move on, Mike? You are a talented guy, and I have an idea for you on what line of inquiry to pursue next:

Yes, I know that there are other photos of Taylor Swift and her (alleged) parents together, but that begs the question: Why was a mannequin used (pasted?) in this one? Is Taylor Swift her real name? Does she really write her own music? (Miles Mathis claims her lyrics are far more mature than her – that she writes beyond her years). Is she a gifted or mediocre performer? Is she a child of autotune and ghosting? Is she gay? Here’s her string of boyfriends (beards?):

Beards bearding for other beards? In my experience, it is not unusual for people with real musical talent to be assigned to high-profile parents to keep them under control – John Denver to Dutch Deutschendorf, Jim Morrison to Admiral George Morrison, and a host of others assigned to military families, according to the book Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon. We do not know their real names. Has Taylor been assigned in this manner for supervision?

Swift is the current rage, Mr. Williams. I suggest you can up your numbers and create a huge controversy by applying your considerable skills to this phenomenon.

PS: While I grew up on the Beatles,  I am completely unqualified to do any Taylor Swift research. I’ve never listened to even one of her songs. [Well, one, a cover of Paul Simon’s Fifty Ways … not bad.]

43 thoughts on “Mike Williams, Sage of Quay … limited hangout?”

    1. This isn’t a shock, and is to be expected and not by just older performers. Most all record label touring bands have some background fill ins, especially vocals. Can’t allow night after night performances by road weary musicians to disappoint people paying high ticket prices.

      George may still be alive. Birthday: 2/25 (9) Death date: 11/29 (11) same year as 9/11.

      Current Ringo looks like a younger replacement.

      Not sure if their net worth is accurate, however they would receive the best medical care money can buy.

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    2. That is fun, the eagles eh? and channel is named wings of pegasus? and i commented on the romans quite a bit here already. ofc the eagle or phoenix is the most important of their symbols. which also leads me again to the ADLER typewriter used in The Shining. The french and “Nazis” loved also eagles…and the illuminatii (adam weishaupt, stands for the whitehead eagle ofc, which the roman colony/corporation called “usa” also adapted). der adler ist gelandet….yeah 😛

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  2. Everyone in that Swift picture seems to be cut outs pasted in. The neutral lighting solves most of the shadow issues. She seems to have a few extra vertebrae as well. Isn’t there supposed to be only 33?

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    1. I forgot the first rule of photographs … place yourself in the feet of the photographer. Taylor is obviously a mannequin, and her feet indicate she is not moving, her left arm cranked at 90 degrees as they do. Regarding parents, his left pant leg is ruffled far more than it should be and he is walking at a brisker pace than mom. His face is lit from above more than the other two. I see some sharp lines as appear in cut and paste, but overall, a good job. The photographer is positioned to be walked over shortly. Why is he there on that sidewalk? They are supposedly just walking along. No call for a photo.

      I suspect you’re right … they are all pasted in.

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      1. Mark, some of my comments about the differences between the theatrical release of the film Yesterday and the current Amazon Prime version, didn’t make it to POM. One comment I’d like to make comes from Miles Mathis who said that the Isle of Man is a Stanley stronghold. John’s mother said to be Julia Stanley. The theatrical release of Yesterday I believe showed John on the Isle of Man in a very modest home with his paintings and drawings around him and John muttering that he should have basically kicked Yoko to the curb. But the Amazon version shows the main character standing outside talking to “John” Wiki now says was played by Robert Carlisle (Full Monty, COBRA) but I disagree. The first version shows no interaction, just John.

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    1. Never much cared for Bacharach … not a big music guy, but the trumpet interludes, done a lot in those days (like low string guitar riffs for Glen Campbell pieces) never much did it for me. That photo of the five of them is as if they all were in their way out and were interrupted for a photo. The writer approaches it as if John and Paul really wrote their songs, which Sage claims they did not. That is Mike in the photo … always wonder where Pauly was, as they could not be in public at once.

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    2. Btw, I saw Ringo last year, his All-Starr Band tour, and while most of the songs played (he actually has to play on songs of others, like Toto’s “Africa” and MAW’s “Land”….,y’know, that one about Australia) are at, perhaps, a “Dn’t Pass Me By” medium-level tempo (little hint of the drumming level of “Rain”, “Strawberry Fields”, “Walrus”, i suppose), he’s really steady as all hell, especially given a technically more “impressive” second drummer to play music with. I was behind two of the world’s biggest original fans, in their ’60/’70s, two women he couldn’t help but peer at with their shouting, also later (when he moved from the front to go back to his set) i was at a pretty good diagonal to see his strong-as-f* right hand (the hand that he hits the hi-hat with). There’s a problem with your link, too – that site has a photo of the Beatles with two of their assistants, So much for Kieran’s skills as a “medium”.

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      1. As I recall, only watching popular media, Ringo had a drinking problem that lasted perhaps (no idea) into the 80s. Maybe they had to cover for him then during that time.

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    3. I recognized Mal Evan’s, I think, but who is the other guy if he’s not Bacharach (Doesn’t look like him anyway)

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      1. Yeah, he’s someone by the name of Neil Aspinall – not el Señor Bacharach, ay! If you go to the forum posts – misinformation or not – of the first decade of the 20th Century, wherein it finally became clear to so many that the Paul of today isn’t the Paul of then, it’s supposedly the case that Mr. Aspinall himself contributed occasionally, possibly, I seem to remember, as “Apollo C. Vermouth” herself. Ringo is indeed quite impressive live, if not the four-armed octopus drummer that was another former legend i got to see live, Ginger Baker

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  4. Hello Mark,

    Yeah I wonder if George is really dead. Supposedly cancer ran in his family and I think he lost his mother and a brother to cancer. In 1974/75 I hoped a high school classmate would ask me to George’s SF concert but nope. We attended high school in San Jose. Even then George was apologizing for his voice being off throughout that concert and others which led to no more touring for George. Fans were openly hostile to the Hare Krishna aspect throughout those concerts even though My Sweet Lord was still a favorite. He got preachy etc. Maybe George just wanted out like Lennon. I don’t have the chops to research George. As for Ringo, just dang lucky right? All I ever hear him say is peace and love and flash the peace sign. Nothing to say here folks, I guess.

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    1. If you like Ringo don’t watch the movie Candy. In it he plays a Hispanic gardener who rapes a beautiful young blond college student after being prodded by her father, a professor, who meanwhile dry humps a doll on the couch while watching his daughter get raped (I believe on a pool table). It was around that point that I threw out the idea of any of the Beatles being responsible citizens and of having any intellectual import, clearly they are hired scumbags. If you want to see this, it was featured on a bitchute channel called something like MKULTRANOW. He also did some excellent destruction of the myth of Frank Zappa, showing what a dirtbag he was also, which is sad for such a great musician.

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  5. Not the Eagles?! I went to a concert in the Bay Area, put on by Bill Graham, A Day on the Green. Heart, Average White Band, and others I can’t think of right now, when Hotel California had just been released. Then in Salinas CA the Eagles put on a concert at the Salinas Rodeo grounds. It was the Hell Freezes Over tour. I didn’t go because I thought nothing could be better than seeing them in the 70s so I listened to them from home because the rodeo grounds was maybe a mile away from me.
    Dang it! Is nothing sacred?

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  6. I never much cared for the Beatles. With a few exceptions, like some of “John’s” songs, e.g. “I am the Walrus”. My favorite album of theirs is Magic Mystery Tour which makes me an outlier. I’m curious if others feel the same way. I was really into 60s-80s popular music, and still am to a degree, mostly interested in independent and more challenging music. Like Pink Floyd, Yes, Frank Zappa, then most every punk, indie, and college band you can imagine. I never played Beatles music or bought their albums because you always heard them way too much in the matrix, especially annoying Musak (supermarkets in the 70s and 80s.)

    I have watched many of the Sages videos, they can be entertaining and esoteric but then I remember: this is the Beatles -basically the Monkees, except with a budget bigger than the promoters of Shakespeare got.

    So lets congratulate Senior Sage of Quay for basing his life’s work on over-researching and over-mystifying the most over-rated band of all time!

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    1. In sum, the Beatles were a bunch of posturing pu$$y posuers. If I could go back in time it wouldn’t be to stop Hitler, it would be to stop the Beatles!

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    2. I like this comment even as WordPress will not currently post my “like”. What caught my eye was Pink Floyd. I loved The Wall, never cared for Dark Side of the Moon. The sounds behind The Wall catch my ear whenever played … the buildup to “we don’t need no education…” maybe contrived, but really inspiring.

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      1. Pink Floyds real masterpiece is Wish You Were Here. Especially my vinyl copy I puchased back in 1988, it’s probably the best mastered and sounding record I own. Listen to it and hear how good David Gilmour was.

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          1. My best friend in high school was the hyperactive twin of Syd Barrett. Crashed his ’84 Audi into an enormous stump at age 21 at 90mph with a BAC of 0.39. By some strange miracle he survived after being in a coma for 3 weeks. Thankfully he only used one of his 9 lives and is a very good massage therapist today.

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              1. I remember buying some bootleg cassettes of Gilmour live solo in college. He was very great solo also. He’s the nonpareil guitarist of that era.

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  9. Apropos of nothing special, I plan to write a full article on this story of how my hometown (and a few of my relatives) kicked Aristotle Onassis’ ass out of town when he was trying to turn it into the worlds largest oil refinery. It’s a fascinating story, and likely not a psyop or fake. Because I doubt anyone here has heard of it. For a good reason, because the lesson is when you take a stand against the bastards they back down. They will keep coming, but this was a triumph you likely have never heard of (and one of the reasons I loathe the Kennedys and Onassis apologists)

    NH Rejects Aristotle Onassis Oil Refinery in 1974 (seacoastnh.com)

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    1. When I see Onassis, the words crepuscular and unctuous flash in my head. No reason for Jackie to marry him except to take another dump on the idea that the Kennedys were a progressive family.

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          1. I looked a little more into this Onassis fellow. Now I know it’s all the rage these days to say “so-and-so” never existed, or they were fake, but for the most part I believed that was nonsense.

            However, this Onassis fellow has me scratching my head. His real name is Aristotle Socrates Onassis. Kind of like the name John Wayne Ronald Reagan Washington. Another oddity is he was Greek and Argentinian? You don’t say? Don’t cry for me, Argentina? His whole life looks like a stage play, with the ugliest schmuck Jew Onassis getting to be a babe magnet.

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        2. Mark, I definitely remember your hypothesis and agree it makes sense. The only question is, how much did Onassis pay Jackie to have “Rosemary’s baby”?

          I highly recommend looking through the Onassis pictures above in the link I posted. F-ing hilarious, the guy looks like a 4-pack a day vampire. And yet Jackie leaps into this guys arms? Sumthin ain’t right here, i.e. how does one of the worlds most eligible widows end up with the lead actor of tales from the crypt?

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          2. No, Ari doesn’t look like a vampire in these pictures. He looks like a very powerful business mogul or a mafia don, exactly the type women would be attracted to. I think Mark’s theory of him being the real biological father of JFK Jr is very good, and it explains why Jackie married him despite all the negative publicity that it entailed. Yes, she does look happy in those photos with him. That’s also why she brought JFK Jr to his funeral, too. Why do it otherwise?

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            1. Ari attractive? Only because of endless promotion. Yes he looks like complete shit. 5 feet tall with 4 inch heels. A long smoking phallic symbol hanging out of his mouth, which contained every combustion product under the sun. Like my Italian aunts: 4 pack a day unfiltered Lucky strike habits, making them unattractive sin compare, a goddam ashtray dying before 70 under a mass of tubes in the hospital.

              I worked for real mafioso. Yes that seems preposterous; however one of the head New England mafia moved to my neighborhood in the 1980s, and because we were the only Italian (half) family around he made fast friends with us. Also my mom was always very friendly and outgoing. I babysat for his kid, went hunting and trapping with him, sorry for the cliche but he looked like a small Tony Soprano and brooked no shit.

              So Onassis was fake mafia with a fake wife towering over his puny ass. The reason Jackie has a huge grin is she was probably the best paid actress in the world then, I bet she got paid per camera performance, she was damn good at her roles. I bet she got a cool million per appearance; I’d have a huge shit eating grin if I were making that kind of bank.

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            2. Hi, I was thinking about your point and I think a good example of that type of magnetic powerful personality that women would be drawn to would be Henry Kissinger. I mention him because he was handsome in his own way, and not just an actor, but a very powerful individual. And supposedly a legend at Studio 54.

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    1. Zoinks! I think the crew (thanks Tyrone!) here has found the out the man behind the curtain for Onassis. The stolen history post reads like a laser pointed at a cockroach.

      Looks like the Mystery Machine at pieceofmindful has solved another historical puzzle (who was Onassis?)

      Now back to my original assertion about this Schmuck Onassis having a bullseye on my home town to secretly install an oil refinery: I think I know what’s going on.

      First, the proposal of Onassis to build a pipeline from Durham, NH to the seacoast of NH – this would never have happened. Durham is where the University of New Hampshire is (my hometown), with lots of vested interest in the town, and the real estate is valuable. Moreover seacoast NH where he was proposing the outlet – Rye, NH, is the most valuable part.

      The feign of the right jab sets you up for the left hook: at the same time as Onassis’ pernicious plans were being laid then discovered, they were moving to build a massive nuclear power plan in coastal New Hampshire, in Seabrook. This plant was ultimately built, and no way the PTB weren’t aware of these two massive projects being proposed for NH going on in the 1970s, and they weren’t compatible. What do you do when you have an unpopular idea plan? Create an even more unpopular plan/idea, let it get killed, drain your opponents reserves fighting the fake project, let them celebrate a victory, and cruise to victory with plan A.

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    2. Jackie spoke fluent Spanish and gave a speech in Spanish at one of their stays on their finale trip thru Texas. If that indicates anything?

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  11. I have some personal history working with these Mediterranean tribes. Isn’t the saying it takes 2 Jews to cheat a Greek? I personally think it has to be at least 3. My two graduate school advisors were Jewish, very kind and smart gentlemen. My postdoc advisor was Greek, and my, my do I have stories to tell: my grant was ripped off and handed over to one of my advisors’ sycophantic Greek lackeys who drove my project into the grounds.

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  12. LISAKILLION68A0410F26 …bear with me. Our power is out now since yesterday and negotiating WordPress on an iPhone requires a teenager. It will be tomorrow before I can get to SPAM and trash to find your lost comments.

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