Me: Is “Tokarski” in the Jewish registry of names?
AI: Yes, the surname Tokarski is included in major Jewish genealogical registries, such as the Consolidated Jewish Surname Index (CJSI) and JewishGen databases.
- Origin: It is classified as a Jewish (eastern Ashkenazic) surname, derived either as a patronymic from the occupational name Tokarz (turner/lathe operator) or as a habitational name from places called Tokary in Poland.
- Registry Presence: The name appears in the Consolidated Jewish Surname Index, which aggregates data from 31+ Jewish genealogical databases.
- Specific Records: Jewish burial records for the surname Tokarski exist in Argentina (e.g., Buenos Aires), and the name is tracked in the JewishGen Family Finder.
While the surname is ethnically Polish, its presence in these indices confirms its usage within Jewish communities, particularly in Eastern Europe and among diaspora populations.
Me: Is there a connection to the Tokarev region of Ukraine?
Checked for Tokarev region in Ukraine
There is no “Tokarev region” in Ukraine. What exists are several small villages and settlements with related names — Tokareve (Kherson Oblast), Tokarivka (in Kharkiv, Mykolaiv, and Zhytomyr oblasts), and Tokarevka — all derived from the same Slavic root tokar/tokarz (turner/lathe operator).
The connection between Tokarski and these place names is etymological, not geographical:
- Tokarski is a Polish (and Jewish Ashkenazi) surname, either patronymic from Tokarz or habitational from places called Tokary in Poland.
- Tokarev / Tokarivka / Tokareve are Ukrainian and Russian place names sharing the same occupational root (tokar = turner).
- Ancestry’s Dictionary of American Family Names notes that Tokarski may in some cases be “a variant transliteration of Ukrainian Tokarsky, a “cognate” [me” having a common ancestor] of the Polish form.
So they are linguistic cousins — all descending from the same Slavic occupational term for a wood/metal turner — but Tokarski is not derived from a Ukrainian place called Tokarev. The surname’s primary origin is Polish, not Ukrainian.
Me: Are Ashkenazi Jews the smartest people on earth?
AI: The assertion that Ashkenazi Jews are the smartest people on earth is a widely debated stereotype rooted in claims that they have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group, though the evidence for this is disputed and inconclusive.
IQ Scores and Rankings
- Studies generally estimate the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews to be in the range of 107 to 115, with some claims suggesting a median of 117.
- Proponents argue this places them at the top of global intelligence charts, significantly higher than the world average and other groups like East Asians.
- Critics and many researchers state there is little good evidence to support the claim of a definitive intelligence advantage, noting that effect sizes remain contentious and that many studies lack representative sampling.
Genetic and Cultural Theories
- A controversial 2005 paper, Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence, hypothesized that genetic selection for cognitively demanding occupations in medieval Europe led to higher intelligence, potentially linked to the survival of certain genetic disorders.
- This genetic theory is heavily criticized; opponents argue that cultural values, socioeconomic factors, and historical context better explain the community’s high achievement in intellectual fields.
- Notably, non-Ashkenazi Jews (such as Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews) do not show similar high IQ averages, suggesting that the trait may be linked to specific historical and environmental pressures rather than a universal Jewish genetic predisposition.
Academic Achievement
- Regardless of the IQ debate, Ashkenazi Jews are disproportionately represented in high-intellect fields, comprising approximately 22% of Nobel laureates despite being only 0.2% of the global population.
- They also hold high percentages of awards in fields like mathematics, physics, and economics, a success rate that some argue exceeds what can be explained by IQ alone.
Me: I take that as a YES, especially the part about” … this places them at the top of global intelligence chart.” That may not be contextually accurate, but it is right enough for me. On the other hand, my mother’s side of the family is Irish, and her name, “Leonard”, is in the Consolidated Ordinary Schmuck Surname Index (COSSI).
Are specific factors really independent of each other and uncorrelated to the general factor. Spearman assumed such. He assumed a lot of shite though.
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“disproportionately represented in high-intellect fields”
Not difficult when fellow members of the tribe control those very fields.
Same goes for those supposedly objective “awards”; members only!
Shit, shite, shalom.
DSKlausler
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I should add that I was being sarcastic and ignoring the advice never to use sarcasm in writing as it is never interpreted that way. I also should have noted that hardly any one reads beginning to end of a post, where I noted of my mother’s Irish roots that that her ancestors are, “… in the Consolidated Ordinary Schmuck Surname Index (COSSI).” That makes me unexceptionally ordinary.
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She was the smarter of the two parents too.
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IQ is such a subjective nonsense dependent on contextual or cultural bias. I generally envision the perception of an ‘alien’ from another realm clarifying the intelligence quotient of an ‘earthling’ or even a group of ‘earthlings’ … so, how then would a definition of an individuals IQ be described without being discriminatory or prejudiced?
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This point is illogical –
Notably, non-Ashkenazi Jews (such as Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews) do not show similar high IQ averages, suggesting that the trait may be linked to specific historical and environmental pressures rather than a universal Jewish genetic predisposition.
IIRC, the Ashkenazi were primarily (mostly, partly..?) the result of Kazakhstan deciding, for geopolitical reasons, to adopt Judaism as the official faith – I think they were in the middle of Christians and Muslims, or some other schism, and Judaism was a way to mediate between them.. or somehow advantageous, at the time.
In any event, Ashkenazi Jews historically are genetically not semitic at all.. hence why “anti-Semitism” was bizarre as a victim card, in their case, having no claim to it. Although maybe they later intermarried sometimes with actual semitic Jews. Or this is all my faulty recollection..
But the AI comment is nonsensical because a difference between Ashkenazi and those others would actually point toward (or not rule out) genetic factors-
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Or maybe at the time it was “Khazaria”.. the Khazars that is, who adopted Judaism by kingly fiat. I think they were roughly in the same area as Kazakhstan. Or thereabouts..
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I know what you are talking about, and also HotRod above. Something in my past affairs, I came across something about some gentiles of Central Europe who had adopted the Jewish faith and became what we call Ashkenazis. It is all so vague and long ago, but you brought it back to mind. Somebody somehow disabused me of the notion that there was anything to it. But you are right, the Ashkenazis are a group apart from the Sephardic and whatever other Jews mentioned.
And Hotrod you are right that IQ is an overrated concept. Back in grade school (Catholic) we were divided into smart and dumb kids, and that had the power to set the tone for life for us. I was supposed to be one of the smart ones, and I drive down a street and look around and realize that I don’t know how to build houses, cars are a mystery to me, I am lousy at art and music, and bridges and roads … forget it! There are people who know how to do all do this stuff, and I am one of the smart ones? Are you kidding? I tested high on the IQ tests where we did things like assembling boxes based on pictures, all kinds of stuff like that, and I was good at that. What were they looking for? Probably just competent workers to serve powerful rich people.
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