Last month we were on Long Island walking through graveyards searching for my wife’s relatives. There were 19 cemeteries, and that was a pared back list. It took several days. As we finished up with one cemetery [Babylon Rural] I noticed off in the corner a recent addition (most of these cemeteries go back centuries) and so checked it out.
Note: It is all by itself. Most people prefer burial with other family members – in fact, that is most of what we saw in the cemeteries we visited – family plots. The fact that this grave is in a detached corner with boundary fences behind it indicates that Timothy’s family were not too particular about where he was buried. Off in a corner all by himself is a little undignified.
Note: It is overgrown. There is one flower there, made of paper. It said that Timothy Alan Roy Sr. died on September 11, 2001. It says he is a beloved husband, daddy, son, brother and friend. But it seems as none of these people visit the grave or keep it up.
I surmised that Timothy Allen Roy, Sr. is one of the 2,763 (note the number) who died in the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001. I take that to mean that scattered about all of the cemeteries in the state are fake graves like this one, reminders of a hoax that just keeps going on.
I believe the badge lower right indicates he was a member of the New York Fire Department, and have no clue what the royal flush on the lower left means.
Nice catch. Very curious. What did the text at the bottom say? “Keep your hearts open and…”
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Not sure what the reat says.
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Could have been a helpful clue to the mystery.
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If he were an invented [NYPD]person, all the 7 brother and sisters and their partners and offspring, even his cop daughter, would be turning this into some kind of a shrine. Quite, quite bizarre. Perhaps if they’re all in touch with Tim so there’s no need to bother with this grave, allegedly containing remains found ‘months later’?
https://honoringusaheroes.org/heroes/roy-timothy/
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There’s always some bizzare twist in these stories, that make it sound like some sort of “fate” happened and this guy happened to show up just being a hero when he was supposed to be in traffic court. Sure.
Also if you’re read clues forum enough, you know one of the calling cards for hoaxed deaths (or so it seems) is they just have to let you know this person loved to laugh, or always had a smile on their face. Just the worst sort of cliche that you hope no family member would denigrate you with after your demise. Here’s the wonderful memory they decided to share for Mr. Roy, out of a supposed lifetime of doing worthy things:
John Roy, of Copiague. “He’d give you the shirt off his back, and he always liked to make you laugh,” said Roy, a retired city firefighter. “One time he shaved his chest to go to Mexico so he would look like a buff New York City policeman – he didn’t realize two days later he’d be scratching his chest like there’s no tomorrow.”
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Also, is there anything worse in this world than a “hero”? A hero is a what a little man dreams of being, the type lapping up these made up stories, where they imagine themselves running towards danger. I will just say it’s an extremely childish concept, and powerfully dangerous. Don Quixote, in my interpretation, is a destruction of the concept of a hero – many don’t know Don has a deathbed confession/awakening where he realizes his quests did far more harm than good, and were based on some egotistical idea of what a good person is.
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You have ROY- king- royal- in all caps, and a royal flush. He’s flush, as in healthy and robust. He’s flush, as in suddenly rich. Flush, as in a quick flight out from exposure, a burst of heat…yadda yadda- What the golf course at the top could mean here is maybe he’s at a hidden resort, if he existed at all…. I’m out-
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Did not see it, as usual. ROY AL and a flush lower left. You’re the gift that keeps on giving.
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Roy is a good generic name to use for a hoax in the northeast USA, I believe there were 5 Roys in a my graduating class of NH. And my prom date was a Roy (ha!)
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when I did my stuff on Dennis Washington (too lazy to link) I noted that on Geni and stuff like that did not show his parentage. I went to the Montana Historical Society and found that is father from Texas, was a 32nd level Mason, and that his name, Roy, was short for Royal.
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We used to have big family Christmas mornings – that’s one thing Caitlyn missed.” “Of course we all miss the death out of him,” he said. – Melanie Lefkowitz
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Steely Dan – The Royal Scam Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
From their boats of iron they looked upon
The promised land where surely life was sweet
On the rising tide to New York City
Did they ride into the street
See the glory (See the glory of)
Of the royal scam
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Treating the text at the bottom like a Wheel of Fortune quote, I’m pretty sure it says “Keep your hearts open and you will find me.” Like they put the tombstone off to the side like that as some sort of test–and you passed, Mark! Congratulations!
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I didn’t even have to study!
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Interesting. A beter look at his headstone can be found at “Find a grave”. The quote at the bottom can be seen in full.
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I was close!
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See the glory of the Roy-AL scam:
note cover art, Walter Becker the guitarist said he thought the album cover was one of the ugliest of the 1970s, could it be a 9/11 foreshadowing?
The Royal Scam – Wikipedia
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Steely Dan and The Eagles as well as other popular musical acts shared the same manager (Irving Azoff). Russian Jew.
Russia’s Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev said, “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within. Seems like he was correct. The “we” doesn’t mean Russian or military, obviously the behind the scene agencies connected to the international banking cartel. This all happened around the late 50’s, 1960’s when America went into overdrive flushing itself down the toilet. Popular culture including Rock N Roll was one avenue to that toilet.
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Nice, I did not know that.
I will give folks here another big psyop/disinformation ploy by Steely Dan on The Royal Scam: Kid Charlemagne. It tries to popularize the myth that Stanley Owsley manufactured and supplied much of the LSD used in 1960s on the west coast. Pure Bollocks. About as likely as the Apollo Landings. As someone who in the past studied the biosynthetic, and synthetic pathways of every popular drug, I know LSD is an extremely long and difficult synthesis. No one, and I mean no one was making acid in their kitchen, or underground lab. It was all pharma made. This is now well known, Sandoz lab manufactured hundreds of millions of doses for the CIA, who gave it away by the boatload. If you’ve never done LSD, don’t do it, it’s a poison like all pharmaceuticals that can give you a nice “trip” under certain conditions, or make you feel suicidal for many hours if you happen to take a little too much. In a nutshell I believe a major part of the MK ULTRA strategy was to spread LSD everywhere in the 1960s and 1970s to “blow the minds” of young susceptible individuals and direct them away from healthier outlets for their frustrations with Western civilization.
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