A book review, Poisoning for Profits, by Commenter TimR

Click to access PoisoningForProfits.pdf

A few comments on Genereaux’s Vit. A toxicity hypothesis, after reading the eBook linked above (looks like I mispelled his name throughout, sorry bout that):

“Poisoning for Profit” is overall very compelling and persuasive, though of course it also raises new questions and areas where, as they say in the mainstream, “more research is needed.”

His critique of the early Vit A studies claiming to prove the dangers of Vit A deficiency is excellent. However, one of his arguments, that it doesn’t even fit with common sense or observation – animal species would rapidly go extinct if 4 to 8 weeks of Vit A deficiency led to rapid vision deterioration and all sorts of organ failure – seems like it could be applied to his own contention of Vit A toxicity.

That is, Vit A being commonly found in many foods, it would be equally foolish for nature to evolve/design animals who are so sensitive to it – Vit A being also “fat soluble” and thus able to accumulate long term. Perhaps not as critical a design flaw, but something I wish he had commented on or explored in a little more depth.

Of course it’s a separate case when it comes to Vit A palmitate – a synthetic form – being added into the food supply (dairy and cereals) by government mandate. This form acts differently in the body, and animals would have no assumed fitness for it. But while he makes the distinction, he doesn’t really fully compare the toxicity of natural vs synthetic Vit A.

For instance, egg yolks are high in Vit A – is this natural food form really so dangerous to animals, or do the fats and minerals that come with it act protectively, or even in such a way that it’s beneficial (in reasonable amounts)?

It appears from his own case of curing his eczema by a strict elimination of all Vit A, that at least for some people – those who have accumulated too much, or become sensitive – any amount is too much. In addition, the synergistic effects between Vit A and vaccines, that he claims, may make natural Vit A a greater risk than it otherwise would be in nature undisturbed. But some explicit comment or discussion of this would help to clarify his views.

A second observation I have is that Geneaux only addresses the mainstream, official views on Vit A, and the “diseases of civilization,” or of the West. He easily destroys the comical explanations for the booming business in chronic disease, relative to less developed countries, or the West’s own history just scant decades before – that it’s “bad luck” for the individual, bad genetics, bad lifestyle choices and so on. But he omits completely any mention of the alternative health and nutrition communities, and their hypotheses, which are more credible.

Chief among them is the case against refined flour and sugar, advanced by the Weston A Price Foundation for many decades (and influential on other researchers I would say, such as Gary Taubes.) How does Geneaux’s Vit A Toxicity thesis relate to the views of other alternative nutritionists? Are they complementary in any way, or entirely opposed?

Of special interest is the fact that WPF, and like-minded researchers I’ve come across (eg Paul Jaminet, of Perfect Health Diet) seem to have “bought in” to the mainstream Vit A research, at least somewhat – while I doubt they approve of Vit A palmitate, they are BIG fans of natural source Vit A. Much of the alt nutrition community (on the paleo, low carb side at least) views beef liver as a “super food” due to its high Vit A content, plus minerals etc. (Though they may recommend limited quantities as a supplement only, due to admitted toxicity in high amounts.) How does Geneaux view all this – are they incompetent researchers, or affiliated fraudsters of the mainstream?

In support of WPF and others who claim benefits, there are arguments from nature – it is said that some predators preferentially eat organ meats, such as liver, and leave the muscle meat for carrion. Likewise, tribal hunter-gatherers are said to have especially prized the liver (I suppose they might know this from research on the few extant tribes during the 20th century.) So again, flipping Geneaux’s own argument about the unlikelihood of animals deficient in Vit A rapidly disintegrating, it seems nature would also not design animals who prized a toxic substance that accumulates in fat tissue.

A third issue raised in the book is the question of motive and intent – as usual, there appears to be a gray miasma of incompetence, happenstance, profit seeking, evil designs on the public, and a train that picks up speed and can’t be stopped or slowed at any cost. We are not consulted on the real facts of the matter (or at least what is known behind the scenes), we’re just passengers as the engineers shovel in more coal and the whistle blows, next stop the Gates of Hell…

Geneaux speculates on possible benevolent motives at various points along the way – a rather incredible idea, for instance, that the intro of Vit A palmitate may have been a response to a secret industrial accident of some kind, a misguided attempt to prevent millions of cancers – which, even if successful, would just lead to other issues, in the manner of squeezing a balloon and displacing the air elsewhere. However, Geneaux’s credulity to, eg, POW narratives and pictures, and official history of the Nazis and WWII, does not inspire great confidence in his ability to “read the tea leaves” of what goes on behind the curtain. For all his savvy and excellent ability to pick apart scientific papers, he has not had the scales entirely drop from his eyes, either by his own skepticism or at the promptings of a Mathis paper or two…!

Still, even in those areas he has some interesting views, and most especially his critique of medical science and research is stellar and a must read imo.

15 thoughts on “A book review, Poisoning for Profits, by Commenter TimR

  1. “More importantly, what the medical establishment does not want people
    to realize is that there isn’t even truly an us-versus-them divide between
    the two camps. That’s because what all the parents in both the pro-vaxxers
    and the supposed anti-vaxxers camps want is exactly the same goal. All of
    these parents simply want healthy and safe children. The only difference
    is that the vaccine industry has very deceitfully, yet thoroughly,
    programmed people into believing that the only way to achieve that goal
    is via vaccination. However, we can very quickly test that theory, and test
    it completely by asking one simple question. How’s has that vaccination
    program panned out in the real-world health outcomes of our children?
    The honest and real-world answer they don’t want you to realize is that
    it’s been a colossal disaster. Our children are now the sickest in the world,
    and they are the sickest they have ever been in our history.” p. 278

    What more needs to be said? Who on earth still thinks corporate-state sponsored medicine is there to improve our health? God gave us a brain; use it or lose it.

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    1. I wonder if the Elephant Man, aka John Merrick, got vaccinated with a really bad batch – it wouldn’t surprise me one wee bit if he did.

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        1. Edward Jenner bought a medical degree from St. Andrews University, Scotland for £15* in 1790 but never attended a single solitary lesson. In 1796 Edward Jenner [of Gloucestershire, England] was credited with the concept of vaccination. Jenner vaccinates an 8 year old boy with smallpox pus. Jenner would vaccinate the boy 20 times. The boy would die from TB at the age of 20.

          The London Medical Observer (Vol. VI, 1810) published particulars of “535 cases of smallpox after vaccination, 97 fatal cases of smallpox after vaccination, and 150 cases of serious injury from vaccination, 10 of whom were medical men.”

          *-https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/currency-converter/#currency-result

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  2. I’ve no time at present to read this book, so I thank you, TimR, for taking the time to read and review it. My only exposure to Vitamin A was with AREDS, for macular degeneration in seniors and others. I did flip ahead to that section, and found that it was not treated well, in fact, that Genereax even made it out to be dangerous. That’s a case where I had to place complete faith in eye doctors and the fancy machinery they use on me, clicking a button every time there was a vibration on a circle as I looked into a microscope. They said some years back that I was showing signs, telling me to take AREDS (a profit center for them, I ended up paying a third of what they wanted at COSTCO), and then later telling me that I was OK, crediting the AREDS. What do I really know? Nothing.

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    1. After reading the book awhile ago I cut back on eggs, however watching one of Cowan’s videos he said that if there was one food to survive on it would be eggs. I suppose he meant having chickens is an easy to take care of food supply.

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    2. Thanks for posting it Mark, hope it provides food for thought and gets others curious to read the book. I didn’t expect to read the whole thing, but it’s such a boldly contrarian position, and the more I read, the more it seemed like there was something to his case. I still need to check out his blog and other writings, and maybe put my questions to him directly. Or link him to this “review.”

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      1. TimR, thank you so much, such great effort/information!! I plan to incorporate this into my daily meals as I have had liver/gallbladder issues most of my adult life.
        As mentioned above, I gave up daily eggs and noticed an immediate difference.
        This may not be a popular thing to say, but I feel the same way about Vit D. I try and explain to people that it’s a hormone, not a vitamin, in addition, the push by .gov/main stream meds to take vit D, immediately raises a red flag for me. If friends/family insist on taking it, I suggest the D3 with K2, but even then, I think it’s just another poison that causes calcification.

        Have you ever used NAC or R-Lipoic Acid to clear out the toxins?

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        1. Thanks DTOC, glad you liked it. Vit D of course can be obtained from sunlight, so that seems preferable to a supplement. I did try NAC once, probably when I was listening to Dave Asprey (Bulletproof Coffee) and his “bio-hacking” spiel. But I feel like you have to be a deeply knowledgeable expert to use that kind of stuff and understand its effects (and even then, who knows), so I don’t really mess with it now.

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        2. Pretty much in the same place re: D3. What “immediate differences” did you notice when giving up daily eggs? Apppreciate your experience on this. ty

          TIMR, thx for this compelling info.

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          1. B1, thank you.. I hope you’ll check out the book if you haven’t, much more compelling than my comments. I didn’t attempt to really summarize all his info and ideas – mainly focused on a few points where I had questions or minor issues.

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          2. The top 4 would be highly improved digestion, increased energy, less joint inflammation and weirdly, decreased sinus congestion. Previously, I ate eggs just about every day, usually fried in butter, making the vit A content even higher (and buttering the toast).
            Thinking the sinus thing (as well as digestion) has to do with how Tim links the toxicity/mucosal issues, def worth rereading as it makes a ton of sense.
            I always blamed grains/dairy for my sinus issues, but the more I think about it, red peppers, sweet potatoes, all citrus (which I thought due to vit C content, would improve sinuses) would cause almost immediate blockage of one or both sinuses.
            Tim’s book was so enlightening. I’ve read a lot on oxalates as well, and there seems to be some food overlap (sweet potatoes, carrots, etc).
            If food (plants) is ‘medicine’ then it would make sense that continued consumption of certain ‘medicinal’ foods, must wreak havoc over a lifetime.

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