Caller: Someone told me about how Obama had signed this bill where he can throw any of us in jail for any reason …
Thom Hartmann: (interrupts caller) yeah – that’s a Republican talking point, trying to break up the Obama support. They talk about how Obama signed the Defense Authorization Bill and how he has that power now. They also talk about how he assassinated an American citizen. These things are true, and I disagree with the president on these matters.
My emphasis, of course. This is what immediately came to mind: In one of my favorite movies, Forget Paris, Billy Crystal and Debra Winger, Mickey and Ellen, are walking by the River Seine in Paris. Mickey is an NBA referee and Ellen mentions to him how in a soccer match in South America a stampeding crowd had killed a referee. Said Mickey: “See now, I’m against that*”.
That’s what Democrats are like – the look out over the sea of crap that we call American politics and sigh, and vote for their candidate like it is going to somehow sweeten it up. They don’t know how. Their candidates stab them in the back at every turn, engaging in ugly betrayal. They are against these things, of course. But they vote for them. It begins there, it ends there.
Later I tune into David Sirota and Michael Brown, a right-winger and an authentic liberal, usually at odds with one another. As I tune in Sirota is saying that it’s one thing to oppose Romney because of his activities with Bain Capital, but that we have to remember that the very same type of people surround Obama as economic advisors, so that there is no choice there. He also says that he knows Jim Messina, Obama’s campaign manager, personally, as Messina worked for Senator Max Baucus when Sirota worked for Governor Schweitzer, and that Messina is a man of no value, a rotten human being.
Brown is somewhat speechless, as they have no disagreement other than the usual nonsense about Romney being the better fake choice than the fake choice Obama. Thereafter, Sirota is pilloried by Democrats for his betrayal. It confirms my impression that Obama supporters are low-information voters. As are Romney’s.
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*If I want the actual movie quote, I have to pay $14.95 for the script. Our Internet has been taken over by carnival barkers. Has anyone but me noticed how hard it is to find things on search engines due to the clutter and noise of advertising?
Piece of Mindful 
Voter turnout is evidence that roughly half of eligible voters refuse to participate in the biennial charade. Party substitutes for state, consumer for citizen, corporation for soverign. Once established, our “separation of powers” system is powerless to correct faux democracy. Damn those founding fathers anyway.
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“Low information voters”. Really?
Jen Harper, Washington Times Quote:”Ask a Democrat about jobs and the economy, and they’ll wallow in optimism, secure in the knowledge that things are just fine with President Obama in charge. Ask a Republican? The answer will be bleak, indeed. There is a huge partisan divide in how Americans perceive the state of the economy: Democrats say all’s rosy while Republicans insist otherwise.”
Read more: Inside the Beltway: Republican reality check – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/11/inside-the-beltway-republican-reality-check/#ixzz27yMmA0WF
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So what is it Mark? Are R’s and D’s similar low information voters when it comes to our economic status.
Or are we R’s just succumbing to the messengers?
Don’t worry be happy, right Mark?
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If the tables were turned and R’s were in office, D’s out, the answers would merely flip, each side changing to the other. That’s all you LI people do – changes horses on the merry-go-round.
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Parties care about party concerns, like getting elected and staying in power. We have separation of parties, but not of powers as promised by our Constitution. Amend it, revise it, but it has repeatedly failed us. Our structure cannot respond to our most pressing problems, and both parties wink, nod and carry on as if nothing more is needed than another change of party. We have no method of dismissing both parties simultaneously, which is what is needed.
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Agreed steveo.
“The Roman Republic fell, not because of the ambition of Caesar or Augustus, but because it had already long ceased to be in any real sense a republic at all. When the sturdy Roman plebeian, who lived by his own labor, who voted without reward according to his own convictions, and who with his fellows formed in war the terrible Roman legion, had been changed into an idle creature who craved nothing in life save the gratification of a thirst for vapid excitement, who was fed by the state, and directly or indirectly sold his vote to the highest bidder, then the end of the republic was at hand, and nothing could save it. The laws were the same as they had been, but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing.”
– President Theodore Roosevelt
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Jesus! Do you think you’re the first one to think that way? There is a chasm here between us, but I know how you think, while you constantly miss the mark on me. Keep trying.
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Teddy thought of it even before you Mark.
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You enjoy the insularity of never having to think your own thoughts?
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Like your contorted logic?
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That’s a Swedism – you tell me that, but not why, and cannot, on your own, refute anything. You just refer to dead white guys.
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Ingy leaves the scene. Another day, perhaps.
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